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Merseyrail legacy fleet updates (Class 507/508)

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Babybirdrobin

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From Southport
1: 0742 1012 1242 1512 1742 2012
2: 0757 1027 1257 1527 1757 2027 2242
3: 0537 0812 1042 1312 1542 2042 2257

From Hunts Cross
1: 0621 0851 1121 1351 1621 1851 2121
2: 0636 0906 1136 1406 1636 1909 2136
3: 0651 0921 1151 1421 1651 2151

Nothing allocated Wirral.
Quoting this as seemingly these diagrams are still the norm I think
 

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507018 and 507010 just worked the following (5T83). Awaiting onward working to Southport (5T84) however delayed due to the disruption currently at Liverpool Central due to a track fault, with services turning back at Sandhills leading to congestion in the Sandhills area.


 

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507018 and 507010 just worked the following (5T83). Awaiting onward working to Southport (5T84) however delayed due to the disruption currently at Liverpool Central due to a track fault, with services turning back at Sandhills leading to congestion in the Sandhills area.
A 5T85 has just appeared on the Traksy map at Kirkdale depot. Can't find a schedule on any of the info websites though.

EDIT: schedule appeared on RTT after I posted. Looks like it is indeed another attempt to move those units to Southport.

 
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My previous visit to Merseyrail turned into a fiasco owing to a 777 failure at Hall Road. After keeping my distance for a couple of months I foolishly returned today to be greeted by a fire farce this time and the 507's were lost this afternoon as their turns cancelled. Has anyone got any idea where they are now and if they return to booked turns tonight or have I wasted all my time and effort yet again!!!!
 

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My previous visit to Merseyrail turned into a fiasco owing to a 777 failure at Hall Road. After keeping my distance for a couple of months I foolishly returned today to be greeted by a fire farce this time and the 507's were lost this afternoon as their turns cancelled. Has anyone got any idea where they are now and if they return to booked turns tonight or have I wasted all my time and effort yet again!!!!
Sorry to hear regarding your recent visit.
The 507s will still be out working the;
1742 (2U49) Southport to Hunts Cross, 1851 (2S53) from Hunts Cross return - should be 001 and 016
1757 (2U50) Southport to Hunts Cross, 1906 (2S54) from Hunts Cross return - should be 007 and 029

018 and 010 appear to be next out working 2042 (2U61) Southport to Hunts Cross, while 003 and 017 appears to have been shunted into the wall sidings at Southport station (replaced by 018 and 010).

Hope this helps and you manage to catch them still.
 
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Sorry to hear regarding your recent visit.
The 507s will still be out working the;
1742 (2U49) Southport to Hunts Cross, 1851 (2S53) from Hunts Cross return - should be 001 and 016
1757 (2U50) Southport to Hunts Cross, 1906 (2S54) from Hunts Cross return - should be 007 and 029

018 and 010 appear to be next out working 2042 (2U61) Southport to Hunts Cross, while 003 and 017 appears to have been shunted into the wall sidings at Southport station (replaced by 018 and 010).

Hope this helps and you manage to catch them still.
Do you know what happened to 017 and 003?
On the other hand the pair made for a nice pic, shame that it wasn’t in 2 and 3 though as that wouldn’t been better but I’ll take what I can get :)
 

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Do you know what happened to 017 and 003?
On the other hand the pair made for a nice pic, shame that it wasn’t in 2 and 3 though as that wouldn’t been better but I’ll take what I can get :)
017 and 003 ran empty from Liverpool South Parkway to Southport after the line block in the Liverpool Central area was cleared and was then shunted into the wall sidings upon arrival.

I think the plan was to swap these units with 010 and 018 anyway. Not sure what the plan is next for 003 and 017, perhaps an ECS move over to the Wirral, although maybe tomorrow now?

Upon arrival of 2S54 into Southport this evening, platform 1 to 3 and wall siding should all be occupied by a 6 car 507, should make for a nice picture.
 

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017 and 003 ran empty from Liverpool South Parkway to Southport after the line block in the Liverpool Central area was cleared and was then shunted into the wall sidings upon arrival.

I think the plan was to swap these units with 010 and 018 anyway. Not sure what the plan is next for 003 and 017, perhaps an ECS move over to the Wirral, although maybe tomorrow now?

Upon arrival of 2S54 into Southport this evening, platform 1 to 3 and wall siding should all be occupied by a 6 car 507, should make for a nice picture.
Should do, shame I don’t think I get there
 

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Sorry to hear regarding your recent visit.
The 507s will still be out working the;
1742 (2U49) Southport to Hunts Cross, 1851 (2S53) from Hunts Cross return - should be 001 and 016
1757 (2U50) Southport to Hunts Cross, 1906 (2S54) from Hunts Cross return - should be 007 and 029

018 and 010 appear to be next out working 2042 (2U61) Southport to Hunts Cross, while 003 and 017 appears to have been shunted into the wall sidings at Southport station (replaced by 018 and 010).

Hope this helps and you manage to catch them still.
Thank you this is a great help. I managed to get two of those pairs. The two I haven't managed are 010/018 and 007/029 so I will try again later as decided to stay tonight and cover the morning before heading off.
 

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Any ideas on which end 001 will be facing on Southports tomorrow please? (That's provided it's out of course!) Cheers.
It should be leading when heading towards Southport and trailing when working to Hunts Cross. That is provided it is out tomorrow and remains coupled in the same orientation, as it was last week to 016. It should start out from Birkenhead North depot early hours Monday morning. Hope this helps.
 

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It should be leading when heading towards Southport and trailing when working to Hunts Cross. That is provided it is out tomorrow and remains coupled in the same orientation, as it was last week to 016. It should start out from Birkenhead North depot early hours Monday morning. Hope this helps.
That's great... thanks very much!
 

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That's great... thanks very much!

Unit 507001​


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Allocations on 29/07/24​

LocationMileageArrDepWTT IDDiagramPosition / others
Birkenhead North05:405S02MY0221 with 507016
Hunts Cross1106:1106:212S02MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL1806:37h06:382S02MY0221 with 507016
Southport3707:2407:422U09MY0221 with 507016
Hunts Cross6308:4608:512S12MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL7009:07h09:082S12MY0221 with 507016
Southport8909:5410:122U19MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL10810:5710:582U19MY0221 with 507016
Hunts Cross11511:1711:212S22MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL12211:37h11:382S22MY0221 with 507016
Southport14112:2412:422U29MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL16013:2713:282U29MY0221 with 507016
Hunts Cross16713:4613:512S32MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL17414:07h14:082S32MY0221 with 507016
Southport19314:5415:122U39MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL21215:5715:582U39MY0221 with 507016
Hunts Cross21916:1716:212S42MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL22616:37h16:382S42MY0221 with 507016
Southport24517:2417:422U49MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL26418:2718:282U49MY0221 with 507016
Hunts Cross27118:4618:512S53MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL27819:07h19:082S53MY0221 with 507016
Southport29719:5420:122U59MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL31620:57h20:582U59MY0221 with 507016
Hunts Cross32321:1721:212S63MY0221 with 507016
Liverpool Cen NL33021:37h21:382S63MY0221 with 507016
Southport34922:24

Just taken from Gemini now! Merseyrail are usually quick at putting allocations in, the 0757 from Southport is allocated to 507007 + 507029, the 0812 allocated to 507010 + 507018, hope it helps!
 

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Any 507 diagrams working Chester services today? Visiting Chester briefly and it would be nice to spot one
 

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Any 507 diagrams working Chester services today? Visiting Chester briefly and it would be nice to spot one
Very unlikely to be one on Chester services since they havent been running on that line for a while now. Very rare chance one will.
 

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003 has someone in it’s front sm window, any idea as of why
Could be a number of reasons. Driving instructor/manager doing a ride assessment/training. Drivers route learning/refreshing, signallers occasionally go out in the cab to familiarise themselves with the area they will sign, somebody riding up front to inspect the line for whatever reason, etc etc.
 

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Could be a number of reasons. Driving instructor/manager doing a ride assessment/training. Drivers route learning/refreshing, signallers occasionally go out in the cab to familiarise themselves with the area they will sign, somebody riding up front to inspect the line for whatever reason, etc etc.
I meant something, sorry, here’s a photo of it
 

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I meant something, sorry, here’s a photo of it
Thermal imaging camera. More information below including a video of the camera in action
 

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Thermal imaging camera. More information below including a video of the camera in action
Ah, do we know if this will extend its life outside of service potentially?
 

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Can I safely assume no 507s are running on the Wirral today?

Edit: I can’t form sentences
Yes! 507s are currently working as follows:

507007 and 029:
2S03 0636 Hunts X - Southport

507003 and 016:
2U09 0742 Southport- Hunts X

507010 and 018:
2S04 0651 Hunts X - Southport
 

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Does anyone know the gear ratio of the 507/8s? I’m currently undergoing a project to recreate a gec310 from home, all I need to recreate the motor sound is the gear ratio from the straight cut gears, if anyone knows that would be massively appreciated and would help the project a lot
 
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