Major Incident at Huntingdon (01/11/2025)

[Steve Harris]

Maybe to drag 4L07 away from the affected area?

Indeed, that's looking likely (looking at signalmaps). As in original post I did say I was guessing it was a thunderbird, I just guessed the wrong service!

 

[adc82140]

Over 1000 now.

Many of whom will be from the media, ranging from the BBC, Sky et al to self appointed social media "journalists". May be worth bearing in mind.

 

[ainsworth74]

It's far to early to be able to say what may or may not be learned from whatever has happened tonight let's leave that there thank you. Further posts of that nature are liable for deletion.

 

[IrishDave]

Responsible media won't report on which service it was until they have proof from a source of authority - too many people will be looking to see if they have relatives/friends on the affected train, and the consequences of a mistake are high.

Oh yes, I agree entirely, hence why the BBC are "unsure" as to what the train's final destination was. I am, though, surprised that it's not been announced yet by the police or LNER.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Trains passed Huntingdon for a few minutes after 1Y90 stopped there, but only a couple of services.

 

[MadCommuter]

Oh yes, I agree entirely, hence why the BBC are "unsure" as to what the train's final destination was. I am, though, surprised that it's not been announced yet by the police or LNER.

I would expect a media briefing in the next few hours and this will confirm these kinds of details.

Worrying incident and I really feel for those involved. A train is a very closed environment, similar to a plane, with no escape.

 

[Horizon22]

Trains passed Huntingdon for a few minutes after 1Y90 stopped there, but only a couple of services.

Those few minutes will probably be the time between the emergency egress / passcom being pulled, the train pulling in, the driver making an emergency call to the signaller (from driver and/or police), doors being opened and signaller then blocking all lines, whilst trying to prevent stranding trains.

 

[800001]

Trains passed Huntingdon for a few minutes after 1Y90 stopped there, but only a couple of services.

Because the request from Cambridgeshire Police had not been made to block all lines.
That was requested when the severity of the situation was realised.

 

[milooo]

Train 1D75 has appeared to turn around at St Neots

 

[frediculous]

And looks like 1D31 is reversing at Sandy

 

[D6130]

This tragic incident is receiving major coverage from the Italian TV news channels....but they are saying that the train was travelling from Manchester to London. Possibly a mishearing of 'Doncaster' in a phone call?

 

[Obar123]

Train 1D75 has appeared to turn around at St Neots

It did have a green signal to go back south, but that seems to have gone back to red.

Edit: Now on the move as 5D75

 

[Sleepy]

BBC news channel currently stating it's a service from Kings Cross heading north then asking a local radio reporter on site how long the train took to travel from Peterborough to Huntingdon !! Maps clearly not a thing at the BBC.

 

[milooo]

1D75 appears to be running empty as 5D75 back south

 

[ainsworth74]

If you're just joining the thread it would appreciated if you would skim what has already been posted to avoid unnecessary duplication of posts.

It would also be appreciated if Forum Members would ensure that they treat each other with respective and avoid resorting to sarcasm or other sorts of rudeness please. This is a very upsetting incident and emotions are running high. A little forbearance with your fellow members goes a long way.

I'm also currently flying solo so it helps me with this extremely busy thread if we can try and keep this civil and avoid duplication of content where possible!

 

[Cach17]

Tragic news. Thoughts with those involved. Been through Huntingdon by LNER and its predecessors on many an occasion myself.

Should come as no surprise that the usual terminally online scumbags will be up to all sorts of speculation as to the demography of the attackers without a care for the victims.

 

[Brubulus]

The last train to pass through seems to have been at 20.16, so almost 30 mins after the affected train stopped at Huntingdon (19.44) The affected train has been officially cancelled between Huntingdon and London under the disorder code, which is appropriate even though it understands the gravity of this event. There was almost 20 mins with no traffic, then the fast lines re-opened for 12 mins before being closed indefinitely. The last train was 9J63 from Peterborough to Horsham which skipped the station on the up fast.

 

[Failed Unit]

Oh yes, I agree entirely, hence why the BBC are "unsure" as to what the train's final destination was. I am, though, surprised that it's not been announced yet by the police or LNER.

It is hard to tell if that helps people concerned about relatives. It is a case of bad news travels fast. However I suspect if the specific train was announced, it would cause a lot more panic. When I got my first “that wasn’t your train?” call I didn’t have a clue about the incident. I think relatives would be a lot more panicked if it was announced, as they would have had no reason to know I had caught the train before.

 

[Jamesrob637]

The last train to pass through seems to have been at 20.11, so almost 30 mins after the affected train stopped at Huntingdon (1944). That train has been officially cancelled between Huntingdon and Londindue to disorder.

This one, a couple of minutes later:

Realtime Trains | 9J63 1954 Peterborough to Horsham | 01/11/2025

Real-time train running information for 9J63 1954 departure from Peterborough to Horsham on 01/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Steddenm]

Sky have just said the train was going to Newcastle. Surely somebody at Sky or the BBC knows about Traksy/RTT or even here?

 

[43096]

This one, a couple of minutes later:

Realtime Trains | 9J63 1954 Peterborough to Horsham | 01/11/2025

Real-time train running information for 9J63 1954 departure from Peterborough to Horsham on 01/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

9J63 would have been a "did not call" due to 1Y90 being in platform two. Presumably the thinking was to clear trains out of the area - the last thing that was needed was a train having to be evacuated either in the station or trackside.

 

[JordR]

I think it's fair to give general reporters some slack when reporting in niche areas... but the BBC just described Huntingdon as "in the East of England near York". That was the London-based reporter and not the Washington-based host.

 

[AlterEgo]

Sky have just said the train was going to Newcastle. Surely somebody at Sky or the BBC knows about Traksy/RTT or even here?

It is a real mess with the legacy media at the moment. However one assumes the LNER on call team are inundated at the moment and issuing corrections may not be their priority right now.

 

[Rail Ranger]

The information vacuum is unfortunate because it provides lots of time for false information to take root on social media.

 

[frediculous]

BBC's live coverage on the TV has had these inaccuracies:
Just said it was from King's Cross heading north - wrong direction!
"major disruption from Peterborough to Stevenage where the train travelled from south to north" - First bit is correct, but Stevenage is south of Peterborough
Described Huntingdon as a market town in the East near York - it's miles from York!
Now they've said the train was heading from Newcastle to London.

Such basic facts they've got wrong, some of which are basic geography. It's no wonder people panic and worry with such conflicting information

 

[Thameslink Rai]

I think it's fair to give general reporters some slack when reporting in niche areas... but the BBC just described Huntingdon as "in the East of England near York". That was the London-based reporter and not the Washington-based host.

I think they might be confusing Huntingdon with Huntington (which is near York)

 

[dosxuk]

BBC news channel currently stating it's a service from Kings Cross heading north then asking a local radio reporter on site how long the train took to travel from Peterborough to Huntingdon !! Maps clearly not a thing at the BBC.

BBC News at this time of day is produced from Washington in the US. It's likely none of the people in charge have ever heard of Peterborough or Huntingdon.

 

[Peterthegreat]

I think they might be confusing Huntingdon with Huntington

It was reported as HuntingTon at one stage.

 

[djw]

I think they might be confusing Huntingdon with Huntington (which is near York)

The initial BBC headline for the online live coverage incorrectly said Huntington (to the north of York), which was then corrected to Cambridgeshire (i.e. Huntingdon).

 

[frediculous]

BBC News at this time of day is produced from Washington in the US. It's likely none of the people in charge have ever heard of Peterborough or Huntingdon.

Most of these comments are from the London reporter they're talking to, who now claimed the passenger alarm as being pulled "not long after the train set off"