Kristofferson
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This may be a silly question but what are the numbers of the 319s going to/with LM?
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London Midland 321s/319s discussion
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MK Tom
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013, 216, 419 and 460 initially I believe.
Due to the complete mess-up of Showbus today I didn't make it to St. Albans for the 319 handover, so I'll be aiming to get one on the 17:47 MKC-EUS tomorrow.
Due to the complete mess-up of Showbus today I didn't make it to St. Albans for the 319 handover, so I'll be aiming to get one on the 17:47 MKC-EUS tomorrow.
Kristofferson
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Great cheers I'll keep an eye out 
Bletchleyite
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0554 MKC - EUS is a pair of 350/2s if that saves anyone wasting their time
GatwickDepress
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350/2s. I'm missing the 321s already!0554 MKC - EUS is a pair of 350/2s if that saves anyone wasting their time
Bletchleyite
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350/2s. I'm missing the 321s already!
At least the 350/2s have decent legroom in the facing seats and a decent number of airline seats. The 321 layout was a nightmare for a tall person, only 8 acceptable seats in the whole unit.
87015
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WCML 319s not shown as in service. Shortformed (350s) on at least three diagrams, usual LM top job.
Bletchleyite
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Wonderful. In a not very wonderful sense.
DarloRich
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there were 2x 319 in Bletchley carriage sidings this morning, pans up and lights on. Also with new London midland branding and the 0714 Bletchley - Euston was a 4 car train
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0554 MKC - EUS is a pair of 350/2s if that saves anyone wasting their time
It had become a single 350/2 by the time it made it to Tring on the return journey.
Let me guess, the 321s are parked up in a siding somewhere doing nothing.
Thanks LM
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MK Tom
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I'll let everyone know what's on the 17:47 MKC-EUS then (by standing on the bridge waiting for it to come in and only buying a ticket if it's a 319!).
Save yourself the bother, it's allocated 350243 + 350102!
causton
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I was told yesterday only 0714 Bly to Eus and 1705 from Eus. Could change again though...
MK Tom
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If that turns out to be true today I'll try for the 17:47 MKC-EUS again on Wednesday as it fits in with my work shifts.
Bletchleyite
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Good job I did get the 0559 then!
Tetchytyke
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Oh how I'm grateful I never have to use that shower of **** any more. They couldn't run a bath that lot.
Did the 0804 Tring-Euston run as 319s? That's never been anything other than a 321 (or cancelled if the 321s were having a paddy) in all the time I commuted from Apsley.
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The feeling is probably mutual, no more do they have to put up with you ranting and raving with your anti Govia chip on shoulder as you do. Do feel sorry for TPE though!
As to these 319s being parked up and not in use, could be any number of reasons for it and not beside it cost LM money to run them.
Single 350/2, full and standing by KL of course.
causton
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One or two people have told me there are not many drivers trained on them yet so that could be an issue... doesn't seem very planned, this!
Bletchleyite
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87015
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Do you actually know why then, or just adding nothing as usual other than blinkered pro whoever employs you this week?
causton
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319216, until next Sunday afternoon at least.
Tetchytyke
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I think that proves my point.
But yeah, I have a "chip on my shoulder" and I'm "anti GoVia"* because I think charging nearly five grand a year for this is disgraceful.
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*OK, HLE13 might have a point with this one. Having paid the thick end of ten grand to those jokers in the last two years for this "service", I think they should be stripped of every single franchise.
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What are these reasons then?
Please do tell. If it's a lack of training (as causton says) or defective trains, then how is that not GoVia's fault?
DarloRich
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321413 just passed mkc heading south working Wolverton - ilford
Kristofferson
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Are we going to have short forms all bloody week because they can't get the other two 319s into service? 
Bletchleyite
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Are we going to have short forms all bloody week because they can't get the other two 319s into service?
Probably. And probably even if they *do* get them into service, as the rest of the 321 slack is being taken up from the 350 fleet.
Kristofferson
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Hopefully they thought that through first and will just work the 350s harder. The next week or two will be rubbish for commuters though. I'll just go in later and leave earlier I think 
MK Tom
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Oh so if I nip down to LBZ after work tomorrow I can catch the 319 back to MKC to arrive at 17:30?
No wait sorry 17:05 off Euston, got it now. Would have to get it as the 17:51 off Cheddington.
No wait sorry 17:05 off Euston, got it now. Would have to get it as the 17:51 off Cheddington.
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