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LSL now operate Carlisle Upperby and have been in the process of rebuilding a shed there. Whether or not this is simply to provide covered storage or another but smaller Crewe I don’t know, but it’s all part of their plan for the site.
It's a pity that the 1980s-built carriage shed was demolished in the first place - apart from the end wall and doors - and even more of a pity that the 1950s-built steam roundhouse was demolished - although I believe that it had advanced concrete cancer.
 
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I understand the shed will be for rolling stock storage.
Always good to have undercover storage I suppose, even if the stock isnt being used that often it keeps the worst of the weather off and reduces maintenance costs in the long term. My hope is that this will lead to an expansion in operations and more stock to be acquired (Only an opinion and a hope).
 

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The obvious candidate is the Chairman's Train, which is currently stored outdoors at Crewe.

I think the shed should be enough to fit approx. 28 vehicles in total - the Chairman's Train would account for 10 of those spaces alone (possibly more, given half of them are Mk. 3s).
 

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The obvious candidate is the Chairman's Train, which is currently stored outdoors at Crewe.

I think the shed should be enough to fit approx. 28 vehicles in total - the Chairman's Train would account for 10 of those spaces alone (possibly more, given half of them are Mk. 3s).
I reckon the ScotRail rake will go in there too, as that hasn’t turned a wheel for sometime now and is also among the various vehicles stored outside at Crewe.

As for the ex EMT vehicles already at Carlisle, I’d be surprised if they are much longer left for the world - the interior is rank and hasn’t been touched since they stopped being used by EMR in 2019.
 

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The obvious candidate is the Chairman's Train, which is currently stored outdoors at Crewe.

I think the shed should be enough to fit approx. 28 vehicles in total - the Chairman's Train would account for 10 of those spaces alone (possibly more, given half of them are Mk. 3s).
If that is the case then I wonder what they will do with the new space at Crewe? I think this creates more questions than it answered to be honest, but all very exciting, can only be a good thing really.
 

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Which one?
As it was out again yesterday, I presume they mean they class 121 "bubble car" rather than the Deltic.

From what I have seen of the unit, it has been made up to a very high standard internally with couches rather than seats and what look like very expensive finishing touches. So I very much doubt it will ever be opened up for charters, unless you are willing to spend Brittanic Explorer sorts of money to travel on it :D
 

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Strangely, after the conversation about the bubble car earlier, Rail Express have tweeted:


For exclusive hire, LS Group's Chairman's Train catering groups from two to 16. Hauled vintage locomotives including steam, electric and diesel, a bespoke full‑day journey aboard the Chairman’s Train begins at £45,000 per day.
A further tweet suggests that for locations required beyond the scope of a full loco hauled train, the bubble car can be used.

Apparently they have a 5 day bespoke tour planned for the West Highland Line in July to get this new scheme up and running. I'd presume that will be a train consisting of Nigel Farage, Lee Anderson, Tommy Robinson and for on board entertainment, that bloke who butchered You'll Never Walk Alone during their underwhelming invasion of London at the weekend :lol:
 
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Apparently they have a 5 day bespoke tour planned for the West Highland Line in July to get this new scheme up and running. I'd presume that will be a train consisting of Nigel Farage, Lee Anderson, Tommy Robinson and for on board entertainment, that bloke who butchered You'll Never Walk Alone during their underwhelming invasion of London at the weekend :lol:
Absoulte rail comedy gold! Funny
 

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I thought it strange that it followed the actual chairman's jolly up the S&C hauled by Blue Peter. Very smart the staff looked too and friendly to outsider's giving waves. The most well to do customers since it was used on the Henley Regatta services in the 70's.
 

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I thought it strange that it followed the actual chairman's jolly up the S&C hauled by Blue Peter. Very smart the staff looked too and friendly to outsider's giving waves. The most well to do customers since it was used on the Henley Regatta services in the 70's.
As I understand it, the passengers changed trains at Hellifield, so Blue Peter + Chairman's Train went ECS to Upperby. The passengers joined the bubble car for a scenic ride over the S&C.

I agree, it's an unusual arrangement, but you probably get better views of the scenery from a slow rattly DMU than through the smaller tinted windows of the air cons.
 

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The Duke failed it’s fitness to run test and will be replaced by Braunton according to it’s owners
Rather unfortunate to hear that, as I was looking forward to seeing Duke of Gloucester pass through Kent today.

I am glad they are still running a steam loco service today, though I will admit I wish it were something other (steamwise) than a rebuilt Bulleid at this point (Braunton). Merchant Navies and rebuilt light pacifics are great locos, don't get me wrong, but it seems to be the default mainline steam locomotive to send around the Southeast.

I would definitely welcome Saphos attempting to send Duke of Gloucester down here again at some point, or even one of their former LNER Pacifics in their fleet, would be a welcome alternative.
 

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As I understand it, the passengers changed trains at Hellifield, so Blue Peter + Chairman's Train went ECS to Upperby. The passengers joined the bubble car for a scenic ride over the S&C.

I agree, it's an unusual arrangement, but you probably get better views of the scenery from a slow rattly DMU than through the smaller tinted windows of the air cons.
From a plush and comfortable chairman's train to a DMU is a weird concept but worked for the customer's. Couldn't have been many on the rake of coaches for them to fit in a small unit.
The wobbly lampshades made me smile!
 

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From a plush and comfortable chairman's train to a DMU is a weird concept but worked for the customer's. Couldn't have been many on the rake of coaches for them to fit in a small unit.
The wobbly lampshades made me smile!
I feel a say 4-5 carriage train as a demonstration may have been more realistic
 

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Quick request as lost my bit of paper !
Looking for the coach numbers of the West Highland Blue Pullman set that visited Cornwall last weekend.
Just the coaches. Thank you in advance.

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Www.thechairmanstrain.com

Newly launched from LSL !!
 
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Www.thechairmanstrain.com

Newly launched from LSL !!
More of a corporate thing I think for companies doing overnight business, when I say companies I mean big blue chip ones where money is no object.
It's a step up from a table of 4!
Luxury at a higher level.
I bet it has proper bogs too!

I've booked an Intercity tour today for £109 and I am fully expecting it to be the Chairmans Train.........:D
I think they would charge £109 just walk up and down the Chairman Train ;)
 

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Does anyone know what might be on LSLs Princes Risborough to Saltburn railtour this weekend please. Or am I a bit early for that question
 

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Does anyone know what might be on LSLs Princes Risborough to Saltburn railtour this weekend please. Or am I a bit early for that question
That's not an LSL trip. It is UKRailtours with the 125 group HST
 

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Thursday afternoon movement

43049 LSLO ELGHARLTN 865Z321N28 H * CREWE HS N
43055 LSLO ELGHARLTN 865Z321N28 H * CREWE HS N
Coaches
44078 41187 40804 41166 41162 40802 41108 41149

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Friday movement

20096 LSLO CREWE HS 425Z311629 E CREWE N
20107 LSLO CREWE HS 425Z311629 V CREWE N
20118 LSLO CREWE HS 425Z311629 E CREWE N
20132 LSLO CREWE HS 425Z311629 E CREWE N
Coaches
6311, 17159, 10212, 11091, 11075, 11070, 11076, 11082, 11066

Dan
 
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20096 LSLO CREWE HS 425Z311629 E CREWE N
20107 LSLO CREWE HS 425Z311629 V CREWE N
20118 LSLO CREWE HS 425Z311629 E CREWE N
20132 LSLO CREWE HS 425Z311629 E CREWE N
Coaches
6311, 17159, 10212, 11091, 11075, 11070, 11076, 11082, 11066

Dan
Mark 3s on the class 20 tour then. Eeek.
 

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