Bletchleyite
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Can't see why they would, it's usual for guards to work from the cab on LM. Usually the front cab of the rear unit.
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Can't see why they would, it's usual for guards to work from the cab on LM. Usually the front cab of the rear unit.
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MK Tom
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319419 and 319216 respectively, the latter being the Southern livery one. Although 319013 also carries Southern livery so presumably one of those two is getting ''minimal LM branding''.
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Only time I've ever seen guards on LM has been on the London - TV - Crewe services. Not usually south of Northampton, where these units will be confined to (hopefully they won't make it north of MKC).
DarloRich
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thanks - the one at Bletchley is unbranded Thameslink white with no obvious LM branding. I didnt get a good look a the Northampton one as i could only see the front end.
As an aside a pair of 321's worked the 0714 Bletchley - Euston this morning
6 confirmed but rumours of more to come.
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Bletchleyite
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You haven't been looking very hard, then. There is no DOO whatsoever on any part of LM, all trains have guards and cannot operate without, and I am not aware of any plan to change this.
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Indeed they did, were you on it? Just in case, I was in the rearmost platform-side (at BLY) set of airline seats. The interiors are falling to bits now - the seat back in front of me was unsecured and almost fell off.
Is this a usual Friday working, or a one-off?
MK Tom
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If you don't see guards on your LM trains that's a bit worrying because you won't be able to get off.
If you're referring to ticket checks they're also quite common on the xx:47 MKC-Euston services.
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Not quite, it's all-over white with grey doors and LM seat covers inside. Thameslink is blue doors! I hate all these white liveries we have now.
If you're referring to ticket checks they're also quite common on the xx:47 MKC-Euston services.
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Not quite, it's all-over white with grey doors and LM seat covers inside. Thameslink is blue doors! I hate all these white liveries we have now.
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Bletchleyite
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The note on LM JourneyCheck suggests they will get full LM branding but not, for some reason, until 2016 (paint warranty?)
DarloRich
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Not today as I am in MK. I was waiting for the Crewe train on the other platform. It is the first time in ages that train has been a 321.
They are looking shabby inside tbh
Do they have to be painted though? Couldn't they just receive full height vinyl's at some point as per the 350/1s?
Bletchleyite
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That is a common approach, though it's worth noting the 350/1s do not have full-height vinyls, the grey is the same grey paint on the original blue-and-grey livery (and is slightly different from the 350/2 grey, which is a good way of identifying where the blue seats are from a distance
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Painting or vinyling will have to wait until there are more than four available to LM surely? In line with previous discussions about them diagramming 5 from 7 or whatever.
Bletchleyite
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They are apparently replacing the seat covers with green ones. Which should look great alongside the FirstPurple(f) interior
northwichcat
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They are apparently replacing the seat covers with green ones. Which should look great alongside the FirstPurple(f) interior
A bit like the 175s then which have First purple plastic but Arriva colour seat covers.
For those interested, London Midland have confirmed in a staff newsletter that the first public 319 working will be the 16:07 Watford Junction to St. Albans Abbey on Sunday 20th September.
The last class 321 working for London Midland will be 321413 on the 15:28 St. Albans Abbey to Watford Junction, Sunday 20th Sept.
The last class 321 working for London Midland will be 321413 on the 15:28 St. Albans Abbey to Watford Junction, Sunday 20th Sept.
Bletchleyite
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Those interiors look absolutely terrible. It reeks of "can't be bothered", just like the GatEx Wessies. Hope the 319s look better.
northwichcat
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Posted elsewhere that 319441 and 319457 have just been transferred to LM to join the original four, while 319216 has received a C6 overhaul.
childwallblues
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Read that on the Yahoo Group.
Will not enter service until April
Will not enter service until April
MatthewRead
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Will the LM 319s get weekend diagrams as well?
Kite159
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Apart from the one on the St Albans Abbey branch?
swt_passenger
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Reported in wnxx that 319455 is now with LM, bringing up the 7 they needed.
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