Issues that affect Young People

[scotsman]

Ok, it appears some explanation is required.

Young People - A suitable alternative?

Issues - 'Problems' isn't a suitable alternative word, since not all the 'things' I cover or will cover are 'problems'
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DOO - I think there should be a railway presence required on all trains where a staff member is responsible for the safety of the passengers. They should be trained on traction and routes. To ensure that they will be on all trains, it may be an idea to have them operate the passenger doors. They should be paid at least 25% more than Ticket Examiners. Maybe we could call them 'Conductors'?

 

[ralphchadkirk]

If you chose to make cheap comments about lovely debating, it just goes to show that you had NO intention in adressing the ORIGINAL purpose of the thread.

It doesn't look like you did either, considering your first post in this thread was about the language issues as well. I don't think you are in a position to comment on 'cheap shots' either


Scotsman - no need to change the language that you are using. From what I read on your blog, you have the knack of writing in a way to engage the reader. Put it this way - I've never had anything published in the paper!

 

[43021HST]

No, if you had read and understood my posts, you will see that I am saying no one is entitled to decide in what way the english language progresses, because it is a dynamic, evolving entity.
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Please point out the question he actually did ask? I am merely pointing out that no one person, or group of people has the right to control language.
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Lovely constructive debating there

And so the circle continues, bangs head against metaphorical wall. (this comment was a reply to the first paragraph and now for the second one)

You say no one has the right to control a language, I take it you dont know what China is like then. Also the second paragraph is starting at the beginning again. I will now bang my head on the metaphorical wall for the second time.
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Ok, it appears some explanation is required.

Young People - A suitable alternative?

Issues - 'Problems' isn't a suitable alternative word, since not all the 'things' I cover or will cover are 'problems'
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DOO - I think there should be a railway presence required on all trains where a staff member is responsible for the safety of the passengers. They should be trained on traction and routes. To ensure that they will be on all trains, it may be an idea to have them operate the passenger doors. They should be paid at least 25% more than Ticket Examiners. Maybe we could call them 'Conductors'?

heres a suitable alternative title, 'brats with transport problems', here you go done

 

[ainsworth74]

You say no one has the right to control a language, I take it you dont know what China is like then.

Just because someone/something can doesn't mean they have the right to do so.

Also scotsman nothing wrong the the title or your writing style!

 

[scotsman]

The reference to 'getting a life' was MY view of many (especially on forums such as this) where young people lose touch with reality, and was aimed as an opinion to the person whom originally open the thread.

I can't say I noticed you making any point towards me. You should perhaps note that I am a young person and I'm very in touch with reality!

 

[ralphchadkirk]

You say no one has the right to control a language, I take it you dont know what China is like then. Also the second paragraph is starting at the beginning again. I will now bang my head on the metaphorical wall for the second time.

China are controlling their people and the way they communicate - through the internet for example - but there is no way China is controlling an entire language. Nobody has the right to control a language - no one person owns it (a point which I have now reiterated for the 3rd time, yet you still fail to grasp it). Aside from that, it would be a logistical and organisational nightmare - unless the Thought Police really did exist.

 

[scotsman]

Scotsman - no need to change the language that you are using. From what I read on your blog, you have the knack of writing in a way to engage the reader. Put it this way - I've never had anything published in the paper!

Thank you very much! I have no intention of changing my writing style in anyway! I only got offered this because of the 'credentials' I have (I'm not going to mix that up in this forum, it could make life very difficult for me)

 

[43021HST]

Just because someone/something can doesn't mean they have the right to do so.

Also scotsman nothing wrong the the title or your writing style!

Governments regularly kill off words,(I will leave that with you lot to think about) and langauge is prone to being 'steered' by the governments. May I remind you I dindnt bring up the point about teenagers being in touch with reality

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Governments regularly kill off words,(I will leave that with you lot to think about) and langauge is prone to being 'steered' by the governments.

Really? Governments 'kill off words'? Someone's been on the brandy!

So, which words have the British Government allegedly killed off?

 

[Bighat]

As for being published, yes I DID earn my living at it at one time, writing in and for the Suinday Times Insight Team, the Daily Telegraph, The Independent, Aviation News, as well as editing a couple of private circulation publications at one time or another, all on aviation-related topics.

 

[43021HST]

Really? Governments 'kill off words'? Someone's been on the brandy!

So, which words have the British Government allegedly killed off?

I didnt mention the british government, please read my posts carefully.

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Then it's a pity that YOU are not setting an better example, rather than lowering yourself by trying to demean the younger generation with your 'nit picking'.

Does it make you feel good?

As for being published, yes I DID earn my living at it at one time, writing in and for the Suinday Times Insight Team, the Daily Telegraph, The Independent, Aviation News, as well as editing a couple of private circulation publications at one time or another, all on aviation-related topics.

I am a part of the younger generation
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I didnt mention the british government, please read my posts carefully.

Ok, which words have any government killed off? Any evidence?

 

[scotsman]

Well, the current Government are welcome to kill off the phrase 'Big Society'

 

[43021HST]

I am a part of the younger generation
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Ok, which words have any government killed off? Any evidence?

like I said please read posts properly

 

[ralphchadkirk]

like I said please read posts properly

So, you can't actually answer that question, you are just trying to avoid admitting that you can't?

 

[Bighat]

I am a part of the younger generation
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Ok, which words have any government killed off? Any evidence?

In that case stop 'talking down' as though you were of an older generation pontificating!

 

[ralphchadkirk]

In that case stop 'talking down' as though you were of an older generation pontificating!

I thought you said we were all entitled to our opinions?

 

[43021HST]

I am a part of the younger generation
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Ok, which words have any government killed off? Any evidence?

teenagers is being killed off with the word youth or young people, all down to political correctness, passengers arn't called passengers they are called customers, train manager now replaces guard etc etc

 

[scotsman]

heres a suitable alternative title, 'brats with transport problems', here you go done

And I quote from one of the articles I had published

Public transport? Why should you rely on the Government to help you get around because you haven’t been forward thinking enough to learn to drive. One thing’s for certain - if you want to get to Orkney, or you’re under 17, you’re in trouble.

Your rather negative stance towards young people, sorry I know you don't like that - let me rephrase, young people is incredibly offensive and derrogatory and is unsubstantiated with any evidence whatsoever.

I am a young person. I am not a brat. You are behaving unreasonably. Please up your game.

 

[ralphchadkirk]

teenagers is being killed off with the word youth or young people, all down to political correctness, passengers arn't called passengers they are called customers, train manager now replaces guard etc etc

That's hardly killing words off! The word still exists even after it isn't plastered on a train door! And what evidence do you have that it is the government?

 

[43021HST]

And I quote from one of the articles I had published



Your rather negative stance towards young people, sorry I know you don't like that - let me rephrase, young people is incredibly offensive and derrogatory and is unsubstantiated with any evidence whatsoever.

I am a young person. I am not a brat. You are behaving unreasonably. Please up your game.

I am also what you call a 'young person' cant you tell? that earlier post was a bit of humour but that sort of thing is bad on forums like this.
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That's hardly killing words off! The word still exists even after it isn't plastered on a train door! And what evidence do you have that it is the government?

that prooves what I was on about in the first place, the government are steering the langauge to there needs, you're thinking of certain words being abolished, its not as blatant as that, you cant abolish words but you can forget them and replace them with something else.

This is my last post for the night, so if I dont respond I havnt given up I just need sleep.

 

[Bighat]

I thought you said we were all entitled to our opinions?

You are now confusing 'opinions' with tirades of criticism and abuse of your PEERS since you obviously feel superior to them.

Your OPINIONS do not need to involve commenting on the opinions of others, especially when the original purpose of this thread was to seek out a variety of such opinions, without the need for someone acting as a self appointed policemean.

I am sure the originator of this thread is quite capable of selection from all the submitted posts.

 

[CarterUSM]

Cheers, I'm assuming your referring to the DOO post?

That won't be submitted to the Press on account of the likely influx of emails coming in along the lines of "wtf?"

Aye, thats the one mate! Wish that had went to press during our industrial action! Well written anyway.

 

[scotsman]

I am also what you call a 'young person' cant you tell? that earlier post was a bit of humour but that sort of thing is bad on forums like this.

No, it was hard to tell. I could detect it was sarcasm, but given your earlier posts it was very hard to work out it was irony.

 

[ralphchadkirk]

You are now confusing 'opinions' with tirades of criticism and abuse of your PEERS since you obviously feel superior to them.

Your OPINIONS do not need to involve commenting on the opinions of others, especially when the original purpose of this thread was to seek out a variety of such opinions, without the need for someone acting as a self appointed policemean.

I am sure the originator of this thread is quite capable of selection from all the submitted posts.

How ironic. Who is acting as a "self appointed policemean" now?

Regarding abuse of peers, I hope you will be aiming that at klambert? After all, he did call Scotsman a brat.

 

[scotsman]

Aye, thats the one mate! Wish that had went to press during our industrial action! Well written anyway.

The RMT are welcome to use it! (if they let me know)

 

[ralphchadkirk]

I am also what you call a 'young person' cant you tell? that earlier post was a bit of humour but that sort of thing is bad on forums like this.
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that prooves what I was on about in the first place, the government are steering the langauge to there needs, you're thinking of certain words being abolished, its not as blatant as that, you cant abolish words but you can forget them and replace them with something else.

This is my last post for the night, so if I dont respond I havnt given up I just need sleep.

Still no proof that words are being killed off by the gOvernment?

 

[90019]

teenagers is being killed off with the word youth or young people

That's certainly news to me, I hear all of those being used quite often.

all down to political correctness

Not heard that one for a while, apart from journalists being outraged by things that unimportant.

 

[CarterUSM]

The RMT are welcome to use it! (if they let me know)

Thanks, but I think we're fighting a losing battle on that front!

 

[scotsman]

Thanks, but I think we're fighting a losing battle on that front!

Yeah, it's very sad.