Guard/conductor name badges

[dk1]

When I first became a driver in 1999 I wore my name badge. I Wes met by “don’t you know your name. Is that why you are wearing it” so took it off. Even many years later and becoming an Instructor I never have worn it.

 

[507 001]

I absolutely hate it when people start calling me by my name whilst I’m working. Don’t know why but it’s always irked me.

I’ve literally just started using a lanyard for my ID at work, but that’s only because the pockets on my new trousers are too small for my phone and my wallet…

 

[bishdunster]

OK, not a guard/conductir, but there used to be a leading or senior railman at Poole in the 90s who had a ficticious name on his I.D. badge, it was Ignatious Bullstrode ! I am sure certain members from the Bournemouth/Poole area will remember him, and the characterful station supervesor at Bournemouth who named him !

 

[43066]

It is not rare to interact with passengers at all. I consider it part of my role to interact with any and everyone and would say that almost everyday I help with a passenger enquiry or just reassure them that they are on the correct platform and so on. If others chose not to that is up to them but a flat assumption that all drivers do not interact and help with passengers is just plain wrong hence my earlier post about name badges.

I haven’t made a “flat assumption that all drivers do not interact”. However in my experience - three TOCs and ten years in the industry - it is rare to interact with passengers. That is also the experience of most drivers I have worked with.

Your role as a driver is to drive trains safely - drivers are not given conflict avoidance training etc. in the way that guards and properly customer facing staff are.

 

[muz379]

Your role as a driver is to drive trains safely - drivers are not given conflict avoidance training etc. in the way that guards and properly customer facing staff are.

I'd question if you need conflict avoidance training to give a bit of generic customer service. My thought and experience tell me that that conflict avoidance training is usually only given to staff specifically engaged in activities that might cause them to get into conflict with customers like revenue protection .

 

[TheManBehind]

I'd question if you need conflict avoidance training to give a bit of generic customer service. My thought and experience tell me that that conflict avoidance training is usually only given to staff specifically engaged in activities that might cause them to get into conflict with customers like revenue protection .

Quite - and I've seen drivers give out some fantastic examples of customer service. It's one of those where the job is what you make it.

As far as name badges are concerned, if it's given to you and you're told it's part of uniform to wear it, you wear it. I've always worn full-name badges - even now in the corporate role I work in (always on the right lapel as a bit of a carry-over from my crew days!) - I prefer it to a name badge around my neck!

 

[Martinwithanx]

Bit of a weak argument these days given even police officers seem to have at least their surname publicly on their uniform/badge and the fact their warrant card contains full name and can be inspected by a member of the public on demand.

Even Security Guard SIA badges have a full name which must be on display at all times in a visible manner. Same for taxi drivers etc.

If you're working in a customer centric or human interaction type industry - I don't really think you can have a legitimate expectation of privacy in 2025. With AI, I could probably take a quick picture of a conductor, use Circle to Search and have their social media profiles and any other photos of them on my screen in seconds, without any name badge at all.

Weak argument? Rail staff are people, entitled to privacy no matter what your views are on the matter. And some have no social media profiles.

Headcode will identify the staff on board, if needed. That’s all I’d be providing.

 

[officewalla]

I'd question if you need conflict avoidance training to give a bit of generic customer service. My thought and experience tell me that that conflict avoidance training is usually only given to staff specifically engaged in activities that might cause them to get into conflict with customers like revenue protection .

Exactly. Drivers have a customer facing role even if it is just to point someone in the right direction and that is why I wear a name badge.

 

[AndrewP]

Not rail related but whenever I write a specification I use the term '

Name by which the employee wishes to be known (this may not be their actual name at the employee’s discretion but must allow them to clearly identified in the event of compliment or complaint)'

This allows the person to be identified for genuine work related purposes but still maintains safeguarding

 

[Krokodil]

Exactly. Drivers have a customer facing role even if it is just to point someone in the right direction and that is why I wear a name badge.

In many European countries the drivers will be wearing no uniform at all.

Anyone who works in customer service will know that customers often do not ask the right question and you need to coax it out of them. The trouble with drivers answering questions is that for example a passenger may ask "is this the train to x?" - on the face of it the obvious answer is "yes", but then the passenger boards the train and gets charged for a new ticket (or worse) because "the man on the platform said...". A guard on the other hand will know when it's worth clarifying "what kind of ticket do you have?" and directing the passenger appropriately. It happens all the time at Manchester Airport where there are three operators running frequent trains to Piccadilly, two of them offering APOD and two of them with their own TOC-specific walk-up fares. Ditto at Chester where two operators have their own TOC-specific tickets to Liverpool and three have their own TOC-specific to Manchester, one of which isn't even via a direct route.

 

[43066]

I'd question if you need conflict avoidance training to give a bit of generic customer service. My thought and experience tell me that that conflict avoidance training is usually only given to staff specifically engaged in activities that might cause them to get into conflict with customers like revenue protection .

But as a driver you are invariably not giving “generic customer service”, in the first place!

If you choose to interact with people then there is always a possibility of getting into conflict situations. You won’t get any thanks if a train is cancelled because you’ve been assaulted, or you have an operational incident because you’re so shaken up/angry after having a blazing row with someone (and I know drivers who have done both).

Quite - and I've seen drivers give out some fantastic examples of customer service. It's one of those where the job is what you make it.

I’d suggest, again based on my experience of working in the grade, that it isn’t by default part of the job. DOO drivers will make announcements, but interacting with passengers at stations doesn’t generally arise, unless you choose to go looking for it.

Exactly. Drivers have a customer facing role even if it is just to point someone in the right direction and that is why I wear a name badge.

You’ll find many people working in the grade disagree with you. Why does a name badge make any difference to pointing someone in the right direction, when you’re presumably wearing a uniform?

 

[43066]

In many European countries the drivers will be wearing no uniform at all.

Indeed. Arguably a more sensible approach!

 

[muz379]

But as a driver you are invariably not giving “generic customer service”, in the first place!

If you choose to interact with people then there is always a possibility of getting into conflict situations. You won’t get any thanks if a train is cancelled because you’ve been assaulted, or you have an operational incident because you’re so shaken up/angry after having a blazing row with someone (and I know drivers who have done both).

Oh I am sure it happens , but nowhere near often enough for the indsutry to do anything about it .

Anyway , what do you do then as a driver when someone asks you for example if the train that you are walking towards to drive is going to whatever destination they want ?

Say , "not my job to tell you mate " . Because I would argue that is probably more likely to end up in a confrontation .

Majority of the drivers I know and worked with would either politely answer the question or point them in the direction of someone that can if it is something like a ticketing enquiry for the train .

If you walk around a railway station in a railway uniform you must be one of the luckiest drivers I have ever come accross if you don't get approached by the public even if just occassionally .

 

[Krokodil]

Anyway , what do you do then as a driver when someone asks you for example if the train that you are walking towards to drive is going to whatever destination they want ?

Say , "not my job to tell you mate " . Because I would argue that is probably more likely to end up in a confrontation .

Majority of the drivers I know and worked with would either politely answer the question or point them in the direction of someone that can if it is something like a ticketing enquiry for the train .

Unfortunately in many cases "is this train going to x?" ends up being a ticketing enquiry

 

[TheManBehind]

Unfortunately in many cases "is this train going to x?" ends up being a ticketing enquiry

Which isn't a reason not to engage with the customer. It's relatively simple to direct them to the gateline or someone who might know more - just as I have to do if someone asks me something I don't know.

I’d suggest, again based on my experience of working in the grade, that it isn’t by default part of the job. DOO drivers will make announcements, but interacting with passengers at stations doesn’t generally arise, unless you choose to go looking for it.

I suspect that it depends on where and what operator - drivers at SWT when I was there largely considered it, if nothing else, a risk of the job that you might need to answer a customer query, and ultimately accepted that it was going to happen by dint of driving a vehicle used by the public. "I don't know myself, but if you ask that person over there they should be able to help you" is absolutely a valid answer to any customer enquiry if it's the truth.

In many European countries the drivers will be wearing no uniform at all.

I would hate to see that become the case here. Aside from the fact that as crew, it was actually helpful to be able to identify my driver easily through their uniform, being the driver of a train is a very visible role still, and deserves to be held with a modicum of respect. Plus, the likelihood is that it'd be business wear as a replacement, certainly not the ripped-jeans-and-pullover combo I've seen abroad, which caused rather raised eyebrows by a number of us British travellers. I recall "casual Fridays" being withdrawn in at least one head office as being disrespectful to crew who had to wear uniform each day - I suspect that suddenly allowing drivers to go mufti wouldn't be terribly well-received.

 

[Krokodil]

I would hate to see that become the case here. Aside from the fact that as crew, it was actually helpful to be able to identify my driver easily through their uniform, being the driver of a train is a very visible role still, and deserves to be held with a modicum of respect. Plus, the likelihood is that it'd be business wear as a replacement, certainly not the ripped-jeans-and-pullover combo I've seen abroad, which caused rather raised eyebrows by a number of us British travellers. I recall "casual Fridays" being withdrawn in at least one head office as being disrespectful to crew who had to wear uniform each day - I suspect that suddenly allowing drivers to go mufti wouldn't be terribly well-received.

More likely it would be along the lines that TfW have - where drivers are issued a uniform, but it is an unobtrusive black polo shirt with just a logo (no company name). Identifies them as staff, but helps them keep a low profile so that passengers are more likely to spot a public-facing member of staff.

 

[185]

Think most companies encourage staff to put a pseudonym of they're concerned about privacy.

I absolutely hate it when people start calling me by my name whilst I’m working. Don’t know why but it’s always irked me…

I'm sure your badge had driver on it. Think that's a Yorkshire name

 

[Steam Man]

I’m not the biggest fan of name badges because of privacy issues

 

[507 001]

I'm sure your badge had driver on it. Think that's a Yorkshire name

Minder Driver

But other places I’ve worked/volunteered have had full name badges.

 

[Travelmonkey]

Some customer service skills required regardless of if you have a badge on or not.

The whole confrontation thing is just a risk in life, you could get into confrontation for taking the last sandwich in sainsburys for instance. It should be a team effort at the end of the day. If a driver don't want to interact with passengers there is always the freight companies the skills can be transferred too. Even then I have found freight staff to be helpful too.

For other staff like guards, RPI or catering a name is a reassuring presence or for RPI shows compliance akin to authority similar to how many police forces have the officer 1st inital and surname as standard part of their uniform.

Definitely one of them even as a suydonem gives a sense of ease to know a name of the staff helping. Having been on lumo a few times they say the drivers name over tannoy at important locations. Different companies different rules, be interesting to see what the GBR stance will be for uniform going forward.

 

[london004]

I've recently noticed that Transport for Wales guards have started wearing name badges. I first saw it on the Cambrian - the guard of my train was wearing a normal badge with his name on it.

Now, at Carmarthen railway station, I've just seen the guard of a train wearing a laminated badge on a lanyard, with a photo of him and presumably his name next to that (I was looking through the waiting room window). This was in addition to a body-worn camera.

Can anyone tell me why this is a thing now?

It’s part of a wider customer service and accountability push across UK rail operators, so it makes it easier for passengers to know who’s in charge and builds trust.

 

[tfw756rider]

It’s part of a wider customer service and accountability push across UK rail operators, so it makes it easier for passengers to know who’s in charge and builds trust.

Thanks

And thanks to everyone else for their replies too.

 

[officewalla]

Oh my days. I have intervened when gateline and customer service staff were being less than helpful including one incident recently where I helped a struggling family from the US to get to another part of the station. I carried a case of a young girl and escorted them to a taxi rank. That was good customer service and exactly the right thing to do as no other company or network employees were interested despite the gateline staff watch them struggle with luggage and little people. To all you TOC employees being negative it may be time for you to change attitudes or jobs. Customer service is and should be at the heart of what we all do. I had the time for this example but if I did not I would have introduced them to someone who did. That 10 minutes left a positive impression and because they saw my name, if they had wanted to they could have fed some feedback into the system; plenty of folk do. Trust and good impressions together with an overall positive experience might mean the casual traveller uses the railway again. A negative experience is not and that should be enough for everyone to play their part and not to say it is not my job guv.

 

[43066]

Oh my days. I have intervened when gateline and customer service staff were being less than helpful including one incident recently where I helped a struggling family from the US to get to another part of the station. I carried a case of a young girl and escorted them to a taxi rank. That was good customer service and exactly the right thing to do as no other company or network employees were interested despite the gateline staff watch them struggle with luggage and little people. To all you TOC employees being negative it may be time for you to change attitudes or jobs. Customer service is and should be at the heart of what we all do. I had the time for this example but if I did not I would have introduced them to someone who did. That 10 minutes left a positive impression and because they saw my name, if they had wanted to they could have fed some feedback into the system; plenty of folk do. Trust and good impressions together with an overall positive experience might mean the casual traveller uses the railway again. A negative experience is not and that should be enough for everyone to play their part and not to say it is not my job guv.

No one has been negative. Nor has anyone said that anyone should state “it’s not my job, guv”. People who do the job have simply pointed out that customer service isn’t a part of the driver role.

As for “intervening” when other staff do their jobs, how would you feel if a member of platform staff came and told you how to drive your train?

As for telling others to change their jobs. It sounds as though you go looking for interaction with passengers. If you crave it that much, maybe you should retrain as a guard?

 

[tfw756rider]

As for “intervening” when other staff do their jobs

Or not, in this case? "Customer service" staff just watching customers/passengers struggle?

 

[43066]

Or not, in this case? "Customer service" staff just watching customers/passengers struggle?

That isn’t my remit. As a driver, if I see customer service staff doing a bad job, I walk on by. My job is to move trains from A to B safely, and ideally on time.

Getting into the weeds of stupid ticketing arguments, or somehow “intervening” if I see colleagues doing a bad job, is (with due respect) well below my pay grade. I’m not a nightclub bouncer.

My managers also don’t want me calling them and telling them I’m unfit to drive because I’ve been in a screaming match with some low life who’s sparked up a fag on a platform.

 

[LowLevel]

Or not, in this case? "Customer service" staff just watching customers/passengers struggle?

With luggage? If you bring luggage with you it's up to you to drag it around, the railway doesn't operate a porter service.

That being said at my discretion I've done all sorts from shifting suitcases to holding babies but it's case by case - I don't routinely offer to help people with their belongings because it's all day every day and I have a very good friend who sustained a lifelong back injury having damaged a disc lifting someone else's suitcase off a train at Birmingham New Street in the 1980s.

I actually do weight training casually for general fitness and am probably at the top end of the normal population in terms of strength but some of the stuff beyond their own personal capabilities that some people choose to try and drag around by train is even beyond me and it's not even obvious until you try and move it - especially this time of year with holidays coming to an end and students starting.

 

[tfw756rider]

With luggage? If you bring luggage with you it's up to you to drag it around, the railway doesn't operate a porter service.

That being said at my discretion I've done all sorts from shifting suitcases to holding babies but it's case by case - I don't routinely offer to help people with their belongings because it's all day every day and I have a very good friend who sustained a lifelong back injury having damaged a disc lifting someone else's suitcase off a train at Birmingham New Street in the 1980s.

I actually do weight training casually for general fitness and am probably at the top end of the normal population in terms of strength but some of the stuff beyond their own personal capabilities that some people choose to try and drag around by train is even beyond me and it's not even obvious until you try and move it - especially this time of year with holidays coming to an end and students starting.

I hear you.

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That isn’t my remit. As a driver, if I see customer service staff doing a bad job, I walk on by. My job is to move trains from A to B safely, and ideally on time.

Getting into the weeds of stupid ticketing arguments, or somehow “intervening” if I see colleagues doing a bad job, is (with due respect) well below my pay grade. I’m not a nightclub bouncer.

My managers also don’t want me calling them and telling them I’m unfit to drive because I’ve been in a screaming match with some low life who’s sparked up a fag on a platform.

I get what you're saying.

 

[sprunt]

The comparisons with police having their full names on display seem a bit off to me. It's important for police officers to be identifiable because they have considerable powers that you, I and train guards don't have.

 

[Ashley Hill]

I thought police only had to wear their numbers,PC49 etc.