Guard/conductor name badges

[tfw756rider]

I've recently noticed that Transport for Wales guards have started wearing name badges. I first saw it on the Cambrian - the guard of my train was wearing a normal badge with his name on it.

Now, at Carmarthen railway station, I've just seen the guard of a train wearing a laminated badge on a lanyard, with a photo of him and presumably his name next to that (I was looking through the waiting room window). This was in addition to a body-worn camera.

Can anyone tell me why this is a thing now?

 

[voyagerdude220]

I think it's just down to employee preference. I know where I work I'm not obliged to have my company issued ID card on display, but I do alternatively have my name badge with my first name on it. (I always know where my ID card is when I'm at work and can produce it if I'm ever requested to do so by my Manager or anyone carrying out an audit etc.)

Some of my colleagues do routinely wear their ID card on a lanyard instead of a name badge.

 

[Towers]

As above, there is a difference between a simple name badge and a Transec ID card - the former is generally a requirement of most TOCs’ unform policies, the latter is a requirement for anybody in a non-public area. An ID card will carry the full name of the holder and their photograph, name badges often just a first name unless it belongs to a manager or someone a bit more senior. Common sense says that staff should have the choice as to whether they display their full name to the travelling public, plenty of reasons not to!

 

[185]

The use of first name only was asked for as the internet age and cyberstalking became a thing. Twenty years ago, one train company which has since been removed, flatly refused and insisted on full first and surname on badges. One employee, a stalking victim, claimed this was unfair, and began an employment tribunal. As the tribunal process was glacially slow, the employee then took matters into his own hands and changed his name.

...to Donald Duck. Yep, he had his passport, bank cards... everything under his new name. The media got wind of it, and only then did the hapless train company finally surrender "first name only or a pseudonym is now acceptable". Some on here might remember this debacle.

 

[officewalla]

I am a driver and have my full name on my name badge. Most drivers I know don't have a name badge even though it is in the company uniform handbook. Not enforced by managers but on a personal level I think it important that customers know who they are talking to. Do a professional job and there is nothing to worry about. If you don't then the customer knows who to complain about.

 

[voyagerdude220]

Not enforced by managers but on a personal level I think it important that customers know who they are talking to.

I agree that customers have the right to know who they're talking to, however, the reason I've always objected to having my full name on display is for my own privacy, greatly reducing the risk of someone trying to maliciously contact me online etc. I always point out to anyone wanting my full name (or more commonly details of train crew pax want to complain about in relation to something which happened onboard a train) that our Managers know precisely who was working on a train or Station so they'll know even without a full name who they need to get in contact with.

 

[tfw756rider]

Thanks for the replies all.

 

[Krokodil]

I've just seen the guard of a train wearing a laminated badge on a lanyard, with a photo of him and presumably his name next to that (I was looking through the waiting room window).

Sounds like an ID to me. Anyone working on the railway will carry a photocard

The use of first name only was asked for as the internet age and cyberstalking became a thing. Twenty years ago, one train company which has since been removed, flatly refused and insisted on full first and surname on badges. One employee, a stalking victim, claimed this was unfair, and began an employment tribunal. As the tribunal process was glacially slow, the employee then took matters into his own hands and changed his name.

...to Donald Duck. Yep, he had his passport, bank cards... everything under his new name. The media got wind of it, and only then did the hapless train company finally surrender "first name only or a pseudonym is now acceptable". Some on here might remember this debacle.

Is there a link to a news story about this? Sounds like a good laugh.

I am a driver and have my full name on my name badge. Most drivers I know don't have a name badge even though it is in the company uniform handbook. Not enforced by managers but on a personal level I think it important that customers know who they are talking to. Do a professional job and there is nothing to worry about. If you don't then the customer knows who to complain about.

They can complain about the conductor on the 12:52 from Crewe or whatever. As a driver you're not going to come across a lot of conflict. Someone charged with making sure that the passengers have paid on the other hand...

 

[greenline712]

Sounds like an ID to me. Anyone working on the railway will carry a photocard


Is there a link to a news story about this? Sounds like a good laugh.


They can complain about the conductor on the 12:52 from Crewe or whatever. As a driver you're not going to come across a lot of conflict. Someone charged with making sure that the passengers have paid on the other hand...

Prior to 1980 it was a legal requirement that a bus driver or conductor had to display their PSV licence badge when at work.
This was unique to them, and meant they could be identified if necessary. No nonsense about names on display then!!
Sometimes the old ways are the best ways .....

 

[Krokodil]

Sometimes the old ways are the best ways .....

Great in the era before social media doxxing

 

[liamf656]

Prior to 1980 it was a legal requirement that a bus driver or conductor had to display their PSV licence badge when at work.
This was unique to them, and meant they could be identified if necessary. No nonsense about names on display then!!
Sometimes the old ways are the best ways .....

Until the old way becomes outdated. Internet stalking has become quite a problem, especially in the past 15/20 years. I know a few victims of it

 

[Tazi Hupefi]

Bit of a weak argument these days given even police officers seem to have at least their surname publicly on their uniform/badge and the fact their warrant card contains full name and can be inspected by a member of the public on demand.

Even Security Guard SIA badges have a full name which must be on display at all times in a visible manner. Same for taxi drivers etc.

If you're working in a customer centric or human interaction type industry - I don't really think you can have a legitimate expectation of privacy in 2025. With AI, I could probably take a quick picture of a conductor, use Circle to Search and have their social media profiles and any other photos of them on my screen in seconds, without any name badge at all.

 

[WirralLine]

TfW guards have always been issued name badges and they are supposed to be worn, although a lot dont. It just says the first name and Conductor on it with the "T" logo. Station staff have the same as do various managers, trainers etc. (obviously saying their role rather than conductor!) There is supposed to be a new style uniform rolling out later this year for conductors which will apparently be a lot less relaxed and more strictly monitored - ie no wearing any items of your own, name badges must be worn at all times etc.

The laminated staff ID card must be carried whilst on duty and presented if requested by managers doing an audit etc. Not sure if theres a requirement to keep it on the lanyard or just with you somewhere handy. I personally wear mine on a lanyard as its easier to open ticket gates etc without physically getting a card out of my bag/pocket. I wear the card backwards so my full name isnt visible. Ive had people take photos of it before, as it happens im not on any social media now so doesnt matter too much.

 

[lxfe_mxtterz]

At my TOC, wearing your name badge is supposedly a requirement of the uniform policy, however myself and plenty of others I know choose not to and have never been pulled up for it.

I just don't feel comfortable having my name drawn to public attention on a name badge (of which the font is of a not-that-discreet size). I do, however, wear my ID card on my lanyard but I don't really have a problem with that as the font is a lot smaller and you'd have to either be very close up or paying particular attention to notice my name - and most of the time it's blocked by my whistle which hangs in front of it.

 

[43066]

I am a driver and have my full name on my name badge. Most drivers I know don't have a name badge even though it is in the company uniform handbook. Not enforced by managers but on a personal level I think it important that customers know who they are talking to. Do a professional job and there is nothing to worry about. If you don't then the customer knows who to complain about.

They don’t need to identify you personally when they can identify you to your employer by virtue of the train you’re working and, as a driver, it’s rare to interact with passengers. So I don’t really see what wearing a name badge adds.

 

[styles]

The use of first name only was asked for as the internet age and cyberstalking became a thing. Twenty years ago, one train company which has since been removed, flatly refused and insisted on full first and surname on badges. One employee, a stalking victim, claimed this was unfair, and began an employment tribunal. As the tribunal process was glacially slow, the employee then took matters into his own hands and changed his name.

...to Donald Duck. Yep, he had his passport, bank cards... everything under his new name. The media got wind of it, and only then did the hapless train company finally surrender "first name only or a pseudonym is now acceptable". Some on here might remember this debacle.

Seems ridiculous and short sighted to force any person working in public places to have their full name on display.

It doesn't provide any additional customer service, but carries the very risks you mention. If a customer needs to make a complaint they can just say it was Michael on the 1833 service to Manchester or whatever and the relevant employer can find out who was working there and deal with the complaint from there.

I've worked in government departments where having ID on show at all times was a must. Even in these circumstances my ID merely had a number on the front and a level of clearance/vetting marked. I would've accepted a full name in such an environment but we never had undocumented members of the public wandering around, certainly not with camera phones.

 

[WAB]

They don’t need to identify you personally when they can identify you to your employer by virtue of the train you’re working and, as a driver, it’s rare to interact with passengers. So I don’t really see what wearing a name badge adds.

Unless of course there is a second guard working the train as an assist, a guard travelling pass, or this happens at a station...

 

[etr221]

The use of first name only was asked for as the internet age and cyberstalking became a thing. Twenty years ago, one train company which has since been removed, flatly refused and insisted on full first and surname on badges. One employee, a stalking victim, claimed this was unfair, and began an employment tribunal. As the tribunal process was glacially slow, the employee then took matters into his own hands and changed his name.

...to Donald Duck. Yep, he had his passport, bank cards... everything under his new name. The media got wind of it, and only then did the hapless train company finally surrender "first name only or a pseudonym is now acceptable". Some on here might remember this debacle.

At which point that had become his name: what effect it might have had on his being stalked (thinking about roses by any other name...), one wonders - after the train company relented, did he go through the rigmarole of changing everything back?

My thought - as a passenger - is that any passenger/customer facing/interacting/just being in the public area member of staff should be displaying an id, with picture, 'railway' company for whom they work (not necessarily their employer, if the position is out sourced), their role/grade, a 'friendly' name they will answer to (need not be real, as long as they answer to it), and a unique identifier (number or whatever - I'm afraid I doubt the ability of the railway to adequately identify 'the man at the station'). There is a reason police officers have numbers...

 

[Krokodil]

Unless of course there is a second guard working the train as an assist, a guard travelling pass, or this happens at a station...

The booked guard will be asked to explain, they can then say that it was the assisting guard.

 

[Undiscovered]

Unless of course there is a second guard working the train as an assist, a guard travelling pass, or this happens at a station...

Rest assured that, on the railway, while compliments and praise may be lost in the machine, explanations, blame and fault will find their destinations.

 

[thelongestroad]

Rest assured that, on the railway, while compliments and praise may be lost in the machine, explanations, blame and fault will find their destinations.

Actually you are far more likely to hear about praise than anything negative... at least at the TOCs I've worked at.

 

[officewalla]

They don’t need to identify you personally when they can identify you to your employer by virtue of the train you’re working and, as a driver, it’s rare to interact with passengers. So I don’t really see what wearing a name badge adds.

It is not rare to interact with passengers at all. I consider it part of my role to interact with any and everyone and would say that almost everyday I help with a passenger enquiry or just reassure them that they are on the correct platform and so on. If others chose not to that is up to them but a flat assumption that all drivers do not interact and help with passengers is just plain wrong hence my earlier post about name badges.

 

[AlterEgo]

Rest assured that, on the railway, while compliments and praise may be lost in the machine, explanations, blame and fault will find their destinations.

Not true in my experience.

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At which point that had become his name: what effect it might have had on his being stalked (thinking about roses by any other name...), one wonders - after the train company relented, did he go through the rigmarole of changing everything back?

Please not another person who thinks this is a true story!

 

[StoneRoad]

Back when I was a regular volunteer on a certain North Wales ng railway, name badges were introduced.
I have a very unusual name and my railway nickname - at least the one I know about - was rather distinctive.
I was also physically distinctive at the time, so my badge was worn, but not really clearly.
And in warm weather I often hung my uniform jacket in the van ...

Even that long ago, I was worried about my privacy and what is now termed stalking, having had problems just prior.

Any problems or praise still managed to get to me, even without the benefit of a name badge ...

[edited for typos and to make better sense of what I meant]

 

[muz379]

Never really personally wore my name badge that much when I was in a public facing role especially when we got magnetic ones that never stayed on long and got lost , it was never really policed that much by management . They always seemed to have far more important stuff to be dealing with .

Staff working on board trains , and on stations can always be identified by looking at rosters and records anyway .

A few times complaints and praise did seem to get back to my manager anyhow so the system did work .

 

[Ashley Hill]

It’s also horrible when a scrote or someone having a rant starts calling you by your name. Up to that point they are shouting at or dodging the system. Once they start using your name it becomes personal.

 

[Krokodil]

It’s also horrible when a scrote or someone having a rant starts calling you by your name. Up to that point they are shouting at or dodging the system. Once they start using your name it becomes personal.

Exactly.

 

[ScottGallagher]

Can't people have a false name that's agreed with the TOC ? I'm.not suggesting Elvis Presley or Bugs Bunny but something that is run of the mill.

 

[43066]

Unless of course there is a second guard working the train as an assist, a guard travelling pass, or this happens at a station...

Second guards can be identified, as can staff members travelling pass. There’s CCTV at stations if things get that bad.

I agree badges are more relevant for on train guards, revenue inspectors etc. but they really aren’t at all for drivers who we (ie those of us who do the job) all know are not customer facing in the same way.

Can't people have a false name that's agreed with the TOC ? I'm.not suggesting Elvis Presley or Bugs Bunny but something that is run of the mill.

This has happened. “D River” being an example that was used where I used to work.

 

[Travelmonkey]

It's a fine ballance but 1st name only badges are common in most major customer facing roles, Shops/Banks/Hospitals not sure if the railway should be any different. Wear your name with pride it's what was chosen for you or in some staffs cases chosen by themselves.

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Can't people have a false name that's agreed with the TOC ? I'm.not suggesting Elvis Presley or Bugs Bunny but something that is run of the mill.

Indeed none would bat a eye at Steve or Dave. Generic enough but also means a familiarity.