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And will they have five-spoke alloy wheels?

As it's German powered, to wear the GTI badge tradition dictates that it must have a red band and have tartan cloth moquette. Oh and a newer louder more shouty exhaust with that Germanic bark to it as well!

Das / Der Zug... or Volker Zug ;)
 
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As it's German powered, to wear the GTI badge tradition dictates that it must have a red band and have tartan cloth moquette. Oh and a newer louder more shouty exhaust with that Germanic bark to it as well!

Das / Der Zug... or Volker Zug ;)

What a GTi really needs...is a screamy turbocharger. Time to re-install that Valenta cooler group I think!
 

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153305 has acquired the nickname of Casper (The White Ghost) among staff and enthusiasts in the West of England
 

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166205 still has its first class mixed up/mis-labelled. 166210 has no internal first class signage or any other indicators at all at either end of the unit (including no anti-macassars) and 166211 has no anti-macassars at all in its first class section (but has window stickers). Various other units lack some or most of their anti-macassars, and the same applies to their window stickers.

A mess.
 

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166205 still has its first class mixed up/mis-labelled. 166210 has no internal first class signage or any other indicators at all at either end of the unit (including no anti-macassars) and 166211 has no anti-macassars at all in its first class section (but has window stickers). Various other units lack some or most of their anti-macassars, and the same applies to their window stickers.

A mess.

The phrase "stuck record" springs to mind!!:roll::lol:
 

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166205 still has its first class mixed up/mis-labelled. 166210 has no internal first class signage or any other indicators at all at either end of the unit (including no anti-macassars) and 166211 has no anti-macassars at all in its first class section (but has window stickers). Various other units lack some or most of their anti-macassars, and the same applies to their window stickers.

A mess.

I notice this frequently on these units, I like to sit in the declass as it's a little cosier, but I've got to say with all the confusing inconsistencies I sometimes don't know if I'm in first or not!
 

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I notice this frequently on these units, I like to sit in the declass as it's a little cosier, but I've got to say with all the confusing inconsistencies I sometimes don't know if I'm in first or not!

Exactly - for the passengers it's a complete mess. It really can't be so hard to fit the stickers and headrest covers properly. Getting the vestibule doors to work properly, on the other hand, seems to be impossible!

The NDL slows have no first class, but I have never heard a single announcement to this effect (or any other publicity other than the timetable column headers (at least two of which were wrong anyway!) since it was introduced in October 2015. Instead of just repeating the recorded announcements, why can't the guards announce this useful snippet of information? I suppose the parlous state of the first class labelling would make this even more confusing. I wonder how many times, when the afflicted units are used on the Gatwicks, and ticket checks occur, disputes arise about whether an area is or isn't first class.
 
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153305 working the Newquay branch diagram today. It will finish the day at Penzance and may work on the Falmouth branch tomorrow.
 

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153305 has acquired the nickname of Casper (The White Ghost) among staff and enthusiasts in the West of England

Also written on the front of one of the repair books.

It is certainly looking dirty already, although the trees and bushes on the Newquay line were doing their best to wipe the sides clean.

Who thought it was a good idea to put white numbers on the white sides?
 

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The "stuck record" continues to play, I'm afraid - 166211, as I noted from my journey this morning, has its only internal first class ID as two small window stickers (out of four windows). No anti-macassars, no working vestibule doors - nothing significant to indicate first class. This does not only affect first class ticket holders - it affects other passengers who might want to find a seat, but cannot be sure whether they will be contravening rules.

To those who claim that the only thing of importance is to keep the trains running (are the 166s really so close to collapsing?), I must say that the passengers (remember them?) have little or no chance of being able to tell whether they are in first class or not on the 166 fleet. Is this the image that GWR, with its very high profile publicity campaign about service and style, wants to project?

It's a mess, the like of which even Southern have not descended to. There appears to be no quality control or the will to impose such. If it needs more staff to sort out this branding disaster, then employ them.
 

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Also written on the front of one of the repair books.

It is certainly looking dirty already, although the trees and bushes on the Newquay line were doing their best to wipe the sides clean.

Who thought it was a good idea to put white numbers on the white sides?


In the same vein as who'd have thought white would be a lovely clean livery for a Sprinter? It's not like we've seen this before... cough.

Just be thankful though that it's not leaf fall season, that white would very quickly be turning to brown. Which in some kind of Ironic way, would suit 'GWR', seeing as they like using that / green & grey now.
 

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153305 working the Newquay branch diagram today. It will finish the day at Penzance and may work on the Falmouth branch tomorrow.

163305 was on the Falmouth branch today.Should be doing it's last trip of the day about now before heading ECS to Plymouth.
 

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166215 also has no internal 1st class ID save for two creased and peeling stickers on the transverse glass partitions that both look as if they have been stuck on by children. No window stickers and no anti-macassars. The fleet is easily the worst I have ever encountered for its appalling labelling.
 

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Lazily not trawling this thread or searching the forum.

Are there GWR Mk3s currently undergoing power door modifications? If so, are they being re-liveried too?
 

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Are there GWR Mk3s currently undergoing power door modifications? If so, are they being re-liveried too?

Yes, four vehicles at Doncaster. And yes to re-livery.
 

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166215 also has no internal 1st class ID save for two creased and peeling stickers on the transverse glass partitions that both look as if they have been stuck on by children. No window stickers and no anti-macassars. The fleet is easily the worst I have ever encountered for its appalling labelling.

is there a move to remove first class? the GWR 387s don't have it do they? I know they are only used on the hayes..
 

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Probably either to OOC, St Phillips Marsh or Laira depots no doubt. More than likely the latter id reckon.
Is it going back into service with 8 normal mark 3s then? For some reason I'd assumed the two power cars sent to Doncaster would be paired with the prototype power-door short set and not return until the coaches are done and tested. Thinking about it now though, even if the coaches are ready it makes sense they would come back to Laira for testing on the GW network rather than being tested 'remotely' as new trains seem to be.
 

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Plan as at last Dec was for the first set to undergo extensive testing before the second set gets done. The 0600 ex Penzance diagram already identified as possible. Forgotten what the timescale is and plan may have already changed.
 

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Interesting to note that 43194 doesn't have cast GWR logos like its green forebears, and the numbers on the powercar are actually in a sensible place!
(image from WNXX, ©M Baldwin)
 

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Calcutta Cup day livery update.
LOCOS
Class 08 Shunters:
410-BR Green livery.
483 "NEIL"/"SCOUSEY"-BR Black livery.
641-Modified BR Blue livery, with grey roof & yellow cabside windows.
663 "St. Silas"-BR Blue livery.
795-BR Black livery.
822 "Dave Mills"-INTERCITY Swallow livery.
836-New GWR livery.

Class 43 powercars:
002 "Sir Kenneth Grange"-Original IC125 Blue/yellow livery. Also has black GWR logos on the windows of the sliding doors toward the rear of the car.
003 "ISAMBARD KINGDOM BRUNEL"-FGW livery.
004- "First for the future/First ar gyfer y dyfodol"-FGW livery.
005-New GWR livery.
009-FGW livery.
010-FGW livery.
012 "Exeter Panel Signal Box 21st Anniversary 2009"-FGW livery.
015-FGW livery.
016-FGW livery.
017 "Hannahs discoverhannahs.org"-FGW livery.
018-FGW livery.
020 "MTU Power. Passion. Partnership."-FGW livery.
021 "David Austin-Cartoonist"-FGW livery.
022 "The Duke of Edinburgh's Award Diamond Anniversary 1956-2016"-FGW Livery
023 "SQN LDR Harold Starr One of the Few"-FGW livery.
024 "Great Western Society 1961-2011 Didcot Railway Centre"-FGW livery.
025 "The Institute of Railway Operators 2000-2010 TEN YEARS OF PROMOTING OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE"-FGW livery.
026 "Michael Eavis"-FGW livery.
027-"90 Glorious Years" livery to commemmorate HM The Queen's 90th Birthday. "Glorious Devon" nameplates appear to have been removed.
028-FGW livery.
029-FGW livery.
030 "Christian Lewis Trust"-FGW livery.
031-FGW livery.
032-FGW livery.
033 "Driver Brian Cooper 15th June 1947-5th October 1999"-FGW livery.
034 "TravelWatch South West"-FGW livery.
035-FGW livery.
036-FGW livery.
037 "PENYDARREN"-FGW livery.
040 "Bristol St. Philip's Marsh"-FGW livery.
041 "Meningitis Trust Support For Life"-New GWR livery.
042-FGW livery.
053 "University of Worcester"-FGW livery.
056 "The Royal British Legion"-FGW livery.
063-FGW livery.
069-FGW livery.
070 "The Corps of Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers"-FGW livery.
071-FGW livery.
078-FGW livery.
079-FGW livery.
086-FGW livery.
087 "11 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Regiment Royal Logistics Corps"-FGW livery.
088-FGW livery.
091-FGW livery.
092-FGW livery.
093-FGW livery.
094-FGW livery.
097 "Environment Agency"-FGW livery.
098-FGW livery.
122-FGW livery.
124-FGW livery.
125-FGW livery.
126-Advertising livery: BRISTOL 2015 European Green Capital.
127 "Sir Peter Parker 1924-2002 Cotswold Line 150"-FGW livery.
128-FGW livery.
129-FGW livery.
130-FGW livery.
131-FGW livery.
132 "We Save the Children-will you?"-FGW livery.
133-FGW livery.
134-FGW livery.
135-FGW livery.
136-FGW livery.
137 "Newton Abbott 150"-FGW livery.
138-FGW livery.
139 "Driver Stan Martin 25 June 1950-6 November 2004"-FGW livery.
140 "Depo Diesel Glandŵr 1963 Dathlu 50 Mlynedd 2013/Landore Diesel Depot 1963 Celebrating 50 Years 2013"-FGW livery.
141 "Cardiff Panel Signal Box 1966-2016/Blwch Signalau Panel Caerdydd 1966-2016"-FGW livery.
142 "Reading Panel Signal Box 1965-2010"-FGW livery.
143 "Stroud 700"-FGW livery.
144-Advertising livery: BUILDING A GREATER WEST (countryside images)
145-FGW livery.
146-Advertising livery: BUILDING A GREATER WEST (coastal images)
147 "Royal Marines Celebrating 350 Years"-FGW livery.
148-FGW livery.
149 "University of Plymouth"-FGW livery.
150-FGW livery.
151-FGW livery.
152-FGW livery.
153-FGW livery.
154-FGW livery.
155 "The Red Arrows 50 Seasons of Excellence"-FGW livery.
156 "Dartington International Summer School"-FGW livery.
158-FGW livery.
159-FGW livery.
160 "Sir Moir Lockhead OBE"-FGW livery.
161-FGW livery.
162-FGW livery.
163-Advertising livery: Visit Plymouth
164-FGW livery.
165 "Prince Michael of Kent"-FGW livery.
168-FGW livery.
169 "THE NATIONAL TRUST"-FGW livery.
170-FGW livery.
171-FGW livery.
172 "Harry Patch The Last survivor of the trenches"-Black & Orange commemorative livery. FGW logo still present.
174-FGW livery.
175 "GWR-175th Anniversary"-FGW livery.
176-FGW livery.
177-FGW livery.
179 "Pride of Laira"-FGW livery.
180-FGW livery.
181-FGW livery.
182-FGW livery.
183-FGW livery.
185 "Great Western"-INTERCITY Swallow livery, complete with cast swallow. Also has white GWR logos on the windows of the sliding doors toward the rear of the car.
186-FGW livery.
187-New GWR livery. Carrying "Y Cymro-The Welshman" branding.
188-New GWR livery. Carrying "Y Cymro-The Welshman" branding.

189 "RAILWAY HERITAGE TRUST"-FGW livery.
190-FGW livery.
191-FGW livery.
192-FGW livery.
193-FGW livery.
194-New GWR livery. Unlike the first 4 green PCs, numbers are beneath the cab and the GWR logo is not cast. Modded for power doors (I think).
195-FGW livery.
196-FGW livery.
197-FGW livery.
198 "Oxfordshire 2007"-Due to go into new GWR livery. At Doncaster Works for repaint and "HST GTi" power door mods.

Class 57 sleeper/crank-ex locos:
57602 "Restormel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57603 "Tintagel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57604 "PENDENNIS CASTLE"-GWR (traditional) livery.
57605 "Totnes Castle"-GWR (new) livery.

(Many thanks to @co-tr-paul for Night Riviera-related updates)

COACHES
HST trailer sets:
LA01-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA02-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA03-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA04-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA05-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA06-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA07-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA08-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA09-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA10-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA11-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA12-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA13-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA14-Dynamic Lines livery.

LA15-New GWR livery.
LA16-New GWR livery.

OC30-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC31-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC32-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC33-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC34-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC35-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC36-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC37-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC38-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC40-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC41-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC42-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC43-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC44-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC45-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC46-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC47-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC48-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC49-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC50-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC51-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC52-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC53-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC54-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC55-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC56-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC57-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA60-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA61-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA62-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA63-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA64-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA71-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA72-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA73-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA74-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA75-Dynamic Lines livery.

LA spares: 40 (119, 231, 718, 811), 41 (004, 103, 116, 137, 176), 42 (049, 083, 095, 101, 102, 196, 294, 356, 381), 44 (002, 059, 083)
OO spare: 44024
PM spare: 44100

Sleeper coaches:
FGW dynamic lines unless stated as GWR silver & green.
All GW 105xx and 106xx SLEP coaches in GWR silver & green.
All BFO coaches (17173-5) in GWR silver & green.
TSOs:
10217 (ex-Virgin, undergoing refurb at Wolverton as a replacement for 10232),
10219,
10225
,
10232 (not getting refurbished as severe corrosion means going off-lease, and probably scrap),
12100,
12142,
12161.


DMUs
Class 150/1s are not included here, as they are expected to leave the franchise.
Class 143:
603-FGW Local Lines livery.
611-FGW Local Lines livery.
612-FGW Local Lines livery.
617-FGW Local Lines livery.
618-FGW Local Lines livery.
619-FGW Local Lines livery.
620-FGW Local Lines livery.
621-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 150/0:
Both 150001 and 150002 are in GWR Green.

Class 150/2:
202-New GWR livery.
216-FGW livery.
219-FGW livery. New Dot-Matrix display on front. Currently OOS after a bit of a knock with 43160 at PLY. Good coach currently in 150238, making it 150938. Bad coach at Brodie's, Kilmarnock.
221-FGW Local Lines livery.
232-New GWR livery.
233-New GWR livery.
234-New GWR livery.

238-FGW livery. New Dot-Matrix display on front. Currently has the good coach from 150219 in it, making it 150938.
239-FGW Local Lines livery.
243-FGW Local Lines livery.
244-FGW Local Lines livery.
246-New GWR livery.
247-New GWR livery. Also has finalised interior.
248-New GWR livery.

249-FGW Local Lines livery.
261 "The Tarka Line - The First 25 Years 1989-2014"-FGW livery.
263-New GWR livery.
265-FGW Local Lines livery.
266-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 153
All 153s are in FGW Local branding unless displayed here.
305-Two-tone Grey livery.
318-undergoing repaint to Two-tone Grey livery at Long Marston.
325-"Citizensrail.org" advertising livery.
333-"Visit South Devon" advertising livery.
Class 158
763-FGW Local Lines livery.
766-FGW Local Lines livery.
798-Advertising livery: Springboard Opportunity Group
950-New GWR livery.
951-FGW Local Lines livery.
952-FGW Local Lines livery.
953-FGW Local Lines livery.
954-FGW Local Lines livery.
955-FGW Local Lines livery.
956-New GWR livery.
957-New GWR livery.

958-FGW Local Lines livery.
959-FGW Local Lines livery.
960-FGW Local Lines livery.
961-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 165
101-New GWR livery.
102-New GWR livery.
103-New GWR livery.
104-New GWR livery.
105-New GWR livery.
106-New GWR livery.

107-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
108-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
109-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
110-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
111-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
112-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
113-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
114-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
116-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
117-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
118-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
119-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
120-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
121-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
122-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
123-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
124-FGW Dynamic Lines livery. At RVEL Derby after its farce at Paddington; one car at SPM for staff training/familiarisation.
125-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
126-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
127-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
128-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
129-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
130-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
131-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
132-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
133-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
134-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
135-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
136-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
137-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.



Class 166
201-FGW livery.
202-FGW livery.
203-FGW livery.
204 "Norman Topsom MBE"-New GWR livery.
205-New GWR livery, with new interior. Carries external 1st Class silver stripes at both ends of the unit.
206-New GWR livery.

207-FGW livery.
208-New GWR livery.
209-FGW livery.
210-New GWR livery. No internal first class signage or any other indicators at all at either end of the unit (including no anti-macassars).
211-FGW livery. No anti-macassars at all in its first class section (but has window stickers).
212-New GWR livery.
213-New GWR livery.
214-New GWR livery.

215-FGW livery. Also has no internal 1st class ID save for two creased and peeling stickers on the transverse glass partitions that both look as if they have been stuck on by children. No window stickers and no anti-macassars. The fleet is easily the worst Deepgreen has ever encountered for its appalling labelling.
216-New GWR livery. Currently at SPM for staff training and familiarisation.
217-New GWR livery
218-New GWR livery.
219-New GWR livery.
220-New GWR livery.

221 "Reading Train Care Depot"-FGW livery.

Class 387
All class members are expected to be delivered in GWR Green from new.
387130-139: in service, 387140-146: out of the works in preparation for test runs.

Class 800
001-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
002-Plain, non-TOC specific white (with red detailing at one cab end).
003-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
004 "Sir Daniel Gooch/Isambard Kingdom Brunel"- New GWR Livery.
005-Plain, non-TOC specific white with bird prints.
006-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
007-Unknown as to construction details.
008-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
009-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
010-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
011-On test at Newton Aycliffe.
012-Not yet built.
013-Not yet built.
014-Not yet built.
015-Not yet built.
016-Not yet built.
017-Not yet built.
018-Not yet built.
019-Not yet built.
020-Not yet built.
021-Bodyshells delivered a month ago. No news on livery.
022-Not yet built.
023-Not yet built.
024-Bodyshells almost all delivered. No news on livery.
025-Not yet built.
026-Not yet built.
027-Not yet built.
028-Not yet built.
029-Not yet built.
030-Not yet built.
031-Not yet built.
032-Not yet built.
033-Not yet built.
034-Not yet built.
035-Not yet built.
036-Not yet built.

Don't hesitate to add in any further changes; I'm sure there's a few I've missed!
 
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