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Great British Railways - First Train in New Livery

CR165022

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Do you know where the SR 158 repaints are being done?
Kilmarnock I believe.

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Also unless I'm really off the mark, I've noticed that the unit being repainted has it's first hopper window moved down 2 windows. The SR units have that, by either 1 or 2 windows I believe, whereas the SWR units keep it by the door.
 

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Kilmarnock I believe.

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Also unless I'm really off the mark, I've noticed that the unit being repainted has it's first hopper window moved down 2 windows. The SR units have that, by either 1 or 2 windows I believe, whereas the SWR units keep it by the door.
How disappointing. Whether you like the GBR livery or hate it, if the 159s continue to come out freshly done up in SWR livery it’s just more money wasted and a longer time to reach a consistent look.
 

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How disappointing. Whether you like the GBR livery or hate it, if the 159s continue to come out freshly done up in SWR livery it’s just more money wasted and a longer time to reach a consistent look.
It isn't wasted money. Wasting money would be to switch the paint scheme earlier in the programme after materials have been procured for the first sets. This is a repaint that has to be done regardless of what colours are used.
 

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Can they at least switch the decals?
As a graphic designer, it would depend on whether the budget is available to produce the detailed artwork for the new graphics and probably printing the new vinyl wraps.

Even though the basic concept has been created, the detailed design work to create the large graphic panels, taking into to account the various multi surfaces and compound curves is quite a detailed and exactling process, so this would have to be budgeted for.

The graphics for such a project would normally all be batched produced as it’s far more economical to print, output and kiss-cut the necessary graphics for all of the project in one run and then hold this in stock.

So yes, the new livery could be applied going forward, but it would probably incur considerable extra expense for which a new budget would have to be found and would most likely double the materials and production costs for the remaining units to be done.
 

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How disappointing. Whether you like the GBR livery or hate it, if the 159s continue to come out freshly done up in SWR livery it’s just more money wasted and a longer time to reach a consistent look.
The first few units are being done in SWR, because the paint has been ordered and all that, and then the rest is going to be in GBR. If the SWR paint was wasted in favour of GBR, it would be more consistent, but wouldn't exactly be aligned with the whole 'we're not wasting money on repainting trains that don't need it' thing DFTO is going for.
The Reddit post is pretty clear it’s GBR if you look at the comments. I trust the poster (who has the images) more than a few forum users.
No, it's not. The poster said it's for ScotRail in a comment, and their post history makes it pretty clear that they're Scottish.


Aye. These are gonna be Scotrail
 

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The first few units are being done in SWR, because the paint has been ordered and all that, and then the rest is going to be in GBR. If the SWR paint was wasted in favour of GBR, it would be more consistent, but wouldn't exactly be aligned with the whole 'we're not wasting money on repainting trains that don't need it' thing DFTO is going for.

No, it's not. The poster said it's for ScotRail in a comment, and their post history makes it pretty clear that they're Scottish.

It's easy to see how folk can be misled, whilst it does say it's for ScotRail (and it reads like they're part of the paint team) the rest of the thread is people asking if its GBR and folk replying "Yeah, yeah, its GBR"...
 

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Although I think the plan is to relivery most only when they need it, there’s supposedly to be one done for each TOC as it gets renationalised.
Except WM are now refreshing the livery for class 172s into a revised WM livery. Three cars first and you would think the middle vehicle could wear the GBR livery but no. So its clearly not a rebrand as and when relivery happens.
 

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According to Richard Clinnick of Modern Railways, there is now a Chiltern Mk5A set in GBR colours.
It’ll be interesting to see a Class 68, the first locomotive, in GBR livery. I suppose that that stock is new to Chiltern, which is a good news story, but I’m a bit surprised that Chiltern is the next TOC to get the livery, given the controversy over East West Rail - I had thought that the Class 196s that they’ll be running on it would get the livery when it opens - though I guess that Chiltern will pass into GBR hands soon, sooner than East West Rail will open, so I guess they want there to be a newly-reliveried train for their transfer. I was just thinking about starting a new thread in Speculative Discussion about which locomotive would be the first to get GBR livery, but it’s been obviated by events.
 
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