Frequently Requested Diagrams Discussion & Updates

[copernicium112]

Does anyone one have the Cotswold Line HST diagrams, as I would fund them most useful. Maybe one for the sticky?

 

[43096]

Does anyone one have the Cotswold Line HST diagrams, as I would fund them most useful. Maybe one for the sticky?

No such thing as "Cotswold Line HST diagrams" as they interwork with other routes. All GWR HST diagrams are here: http://www.125group.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/HST-Diags-GWR.pdf

 

[D6975]

The Cumbrian Coast class 37 diagrams have been temporarily suspended until further notice.

 

[E_Reeves]

If it says valid until Saturday 9th September, will it include that date(those services running on that day)?

Thanks

 

[TheNimiboy]

Above are some diagrams for South West Trains, and NEVER EVER SOUTH WESTERN RAILWAY, Class 707 workings

Also the diagrams for TfL Rail/Crossrail Class 345s are as follows:

- Monday to Friday
2Z04 10.35 Liverpool St to Shenfield 11.18
2Z05 11.39 Shenfield to Liverpool St 12.25
2Z06 12.35 Liverpool St to Gidea Park 13.05
2Z07 14.19 Gidea Park to Liverpool St 14.53 (does not run on Monday)
- Saturday (When engineering works permit running)
2Z06 11.56 Liverpool St to Shenfield 12.39
2Z07 13.06 Shenfield to Liverpool St 13.49
2Z08 13.56 Liverpool St to Shenfield 14.39

The timetables get put up as a STP schedule, so won't be able to access until maybe a few hours before scheduled to depart

 

[03_179]

Above are some diagrams for South West Trains, and NEVER EVER SOUTH WESTERN RAILWAY, Class 707 workings

Also the diagrams for TfL Rail/Crossrail Class 345s are as follows:

- Monday to Friday
2Z04 10.35 Liverpool St to Shenfield 11.18
2Z05 11.39 Shenfield to Liverpool St 12.25
2Z06 12.35 Liverpool St to Gidea Park 13.05
2Z07 14.19 Gidea Park to Liverpool St 14.53 (does not run on Monday)
- Saturday (When engineering works permit running)
2Z06 11.56 Liverpool St to Shenfield 12.39
2Z07 13.06 Shenfield to Liverpool St 13.49
2Z08 13.56 Liverpool St to Shenfield 14.39

The timetables get put up as a STP schedule, so won't be able to access until maybe a few hours before scheduled to depart

I assume the 707s are Mon-Fri only ?

 

[TheNimiboy]

I assume the 707s are Mon-Fri only ?

I actually don't know, I'll check if it's just [MON-FRI] or if it also includes [SX], [SO] and [Sun]

 

[TheNimiboy]

I assume the 707s are Mon-Fri only ?

So 707s are [Mon-Fri] only (apparently)
458/5s are TBC, will follow it up next Monday (18/09)

 

[Adsy125]

What are the current XC HST diagrams now, have they changed since the summer?

 

[PHILIPE]

What are the current XC HST diagrams now, have they changed since the summer?

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=153626
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[Blindtraveler]

Anyone know if the 10:36 Edinburgh Inverness is a 158 on Saturdays as it is during the week?

 

[Segedunum]

Anyone know if the 10:36 Edinburgh Inverness is a 158 on Saturdays as it is during the week?

From memory of using the service, it should be 2x158s

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[Blindtraveler]

cheers, fancying a trip but wouldnt use it if a 170 and like I say this turn is 158s during the week.

 

[Segedunum]

cheers, fancying a trip but wouldnt use it if a 170 and like I say this turn is 158s during the week.

Just be aware that this memory is of waiting for a 170 at Newtonmore for Edinburgh, only to find it had been turned at Aviemore back to Inverness due to the pair of 158s being unable to get up the hill, so they formed my train before completely failing at Perth [emoji38]

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[D1009]

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=153626
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I've been looking on RTT at the ECS workings at Neville Hill for the first Saturday after the Newcastle to Edinburgh blocks. This suggests that the second HST to come south on Saturdays works 1V54 and 1E73 as was the case last winter, rather than 1V50 and 1E63. Can anyone kindly confirm this and if so, could the sticky be corrected please?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Anyone know if the 10:36 Edinburgh Inverness is a 158 on Saturdays as it is during the week?

It was a 158 + 170 when I was on it earlier this month (on a Saturday!).

 

[louis97]

I've been looking on RTT at the ECS workings at Neville Hill for the first Saturday after the Newcastle to Edinburgh blocks. This suggests that the second HST to come south on Saturdays works 1V54 and 1E73 as was the case last winter, rather than 1V50 and 1E63. Can anyone kindly confirm this and if so, could the sticky be corrected please?

Both trains have empty stock workings to Neville Hill and Crofton, as such this isn't an indication of formation. The sticky is correct, 1V50/1E63 are the base second HST diagram.

 

[D1009]

Both trains have empty stock workings to Neville Hill and Crofton, as such this isn't an indication of formation. The sticky is correct, 1V50/1E63 are the base second HST diagram.

Yes, but on Saturdays 5E63 is shown as a definite WTT path to Crofton and a 5G63 Q path to Neville Hill, while 5E73/5G73 is the other way round.

 

[louis97]

Yes, but on Saturdays 5E63 is shown as a definite WTT path to Crofton and a 5G63 Q path to Neville Hill, while 5E73/5G73 is the other way round.

Good spot, I missed that as the mobile version does not show the Q on the train list! I can only comment on LTP of which is 1V50/1E63.

Of course it is possible that STP changes have resulted in 1V54/1E73 being HST instead. Especially given the high amount of STP changes to weekend HST diagrams between end of the summer timetable and the December timetable change. Newcastle-Edinburgh and the two Bristol Parkway closures.

 

[D1009]

Good spot, I missed that as the mobile version does not show the Q on the train list! I can only comment on LTP of which is 1V50/1E63.

Of course it is possible that STP changes have resulted in 1V54/1E73 being HST instead. Especially given the high amount of STP changes to weekend HST diagrams between end of the summer timetable and the December timetable change. Newcastle-Edinburgh and the two Bristol Parkway closures.

I only decided to look at it after I went to some trouble to catch 1V50 yesterday at New Street and got caught out! Anyway it was a couple of pints in the pub to wait for 1V54 for some comfort. Initially I put it down to having forgotten about the Newcastle Edinburgh block, but it looks to me as they covered 1V54 starting from Newcastle with ECS from Neville Hill as that is the normal diagram.

 

[mushroomchow]

Hi all, thought I'd post here since there seems to not be a separate thread for it and I assume there's a reason for that :roll:

Presumably the RHTT season has begun or is just beginning - what are the diagrams for those operating out of Sheffield, and what traction are they using? The appearance of 20s there was a anorak bonus for me in my Uni days not so long ago, so I would be interested to know if they're still operating, since their continued use was a route availability decision IIRC and there's little out there with the versatility they have in that respect.

I had heard it was supposed to be switching to different traction from as early as the 2015 season, but copped the usual mucky choppers last year on a visit to the Steel City. Any news on this year's runs?

 

[FQ]

Can someone please confirm the XC HST diagrams for this Saturday (the 30th)? I've heard reports elsewhere that are different than on here so just want to be certain.

Thanks.

 

[louis97]

Can someone please confirm the XC HST diagrams for this Saturday (the 30th)? I've heard reports elsewhere that are different than on here so just want to be certain.

Thanks.

This weekend:

1V54 0942 Newcastle to Plymouth
1E73 1725 Plymouth to Leeds

and

1V44 0600 Leeds to Plymouth
1S51 1225 Plymouth to Leeds

 

[FQ]

Great stuff, thanks.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Virgin Trains EC HSTs on routes fully under the wires would be good please. I would be extremely disappointed if I booked a ticket to Edinburgh or Leeds and got an HST as opposed to a 225 if it isn't even going away from the wires!

Also, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE include the Voyagers on Birmingham/Scotland services. Once again I would be devastated to go to Glasgow via Birmingham and find a voyager there (although I quite like them, they are nothing next to pendos)

 

[PHILIPE]

Virgin Trains EC HSTs on routes fully under the wires would be good please. I would be extremely disappointed if I booked a ticket to Edinburgh or Leeds and got an HST as opposed to a 225 if it isn't even going away from the wires!

Also, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE include the Voyagers on Birmingham/Scotland services. Once again I would be devastated to go to Glasgow via Birmingham and find a voyager there (although I quite like them, they are nothing next to pendos)

You'd have to rely on somebody to provide the info before they can be posted.

 

[alexf380]

Virgin Trains EC HSTs on routes fully under the wires would be good please. I would be extremely disappointed if I booked a ticket to Edinburgh or Leeds and got an HST as opposed to a 225 if it isn't even going away from the wires!

06:26, 07:30, 08:30, 09:30, 10:30, 11:30, 12:30 & 17:30 from Edinburgh
10:00, 12:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00 & 18:00 from King's Cross
all are timed as HSTs. There may be more but RTT doesn't tell me very much.

Also, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE include the Voyagers on Birmingham/Scotland services. Once again I would be devastated to go to Glasgow via Birmingham and find a voyager there (although I quite like them, they are nothing next to pendos)

I assume you mean on VT? If so:
11:43, 12:43, 13:43 & 16:43 from Euston
05:50, 10:00, 17:40 from Glasgow
08:51, 18:52 from Edinburgh
Again there may be more, but if they exist I can't find them.

 

[Melancholia]

Hello, could we pop in the Class 800 diagrams in the GWR section? Here it is ready to copy and paste into the thread, just a nice picture of it to find

Monday to Friday

1A03 BRI 0600 - PAD 0746
1B12 PAD 0815 - CDF 1022
1L51 CDF 1055 - PAD 1300
1B40 PAD 1345 - SWA 1643
1L90 SWA 1729 - PAD 2037

1C03 PAD 0700 - BRI 0846
1A11 BRI 0930 - PAD 1114
1B28 PAD 1145 - SWA 1446
1L76 SWA 1529 - PAD 1832
1C27 PAD 1900 - BRI 2045

Saturday

No service

Sunday

No service

PAD - London Paddington
BRI - Bristol Temple Meads
SWA - Swansea
CDF - Cardiff Central

 

[FGW_DID]

Hello, could we pop in the Class 800 diagrams in the GWR section? Here it is ready to copy and paste into the thread, just a nice picture of it to find

Monday to Friday

1A03 BRI 0600 - PAD 0746
1B12 PAD 0815 - CDF 1022
1L51 CDF 1055 - PAD 1300
1B40 PAD 1345 - SWA 1643
1L90 SWA 1729 - PAD 2037

1C03 PAD 0700 - BRI 0846
1A11 BRI 0930 - PAD 1114
1B28 PAD 1145 - SWA 1446
1L76 PAD 1529 - PAD 1832
1C27 PAD 1900 - BRI 2045

Saturday

No service

Sunday

No service

PAD - London Paddington
BRI - Bristol Temple Meads
SWA - Swansea
CDF - Cardiff Central

May as well add the Sat & Sun diagrams as well (starting from the 28th/29th October)

1) 10 car. (As from 28th October)
0730 Bristol TM - Paddington
1000 Paddington - Bristol TM
1230 Bristol TM - Paddington
1445 Paddington - Swansea
1829 Swansea - Paddington.

2) 10 car (As from 28th October)
0830 Paddington - Bristol TM
1100 Bristol TM - Paddington
1300 Paddington - Bristol TM
1530 Bristol TM - Paddington
1800 Paddington - Bristol TM

3) 10 car (As from 18th November)
0645 Bristol TM - Swansea
0929 Swansea - Paddington
1330 Paddington - Bristol TM
1600 Bristol TM - Paddington
1933 Paddington - Bristol TM

4) 10 car* (As from 18th November)
0800 Paddington - Bristol TM
1000 Bristol TM - Paddington
1230 Paddington - Bristol TM
1500 Bristol TM - Paddington
1730 Paddington - Bristol TM
1920 Bristol TM - Weston-super-Mare (*5 car - other set stables at BTM)
2010 Weston SM - Bristol TM (5 car)

13:05 Bristol TM - Paddington
15:27 Paddington - Bristol TM
DIAGRAM 2
10:00 Paddington - Weston-Super-Mare
13:20 Weston-Super-Mare - Paddington
16:27 Paddington - Bristol TM
19:05 Bristol TM - Paddington

Further Sunday diagrams to commence from 19th November:-
DIAGRAM 3
09:48 Bristol TM - Paddington
12:37 Paddington - Swansea
16:51 Swansea - Paddington

 

[Y961 XBU]

Just a quick question regarding them 37 times for the Cambrian Coast, i notice the 37 from Preston is due into Barrow at 11:33 and the one to Carlisle is due off at 11:40, if the Preston one is late do they hold the Carlisle one back so the connection can be made?