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Just noticed an error in the diagrams.

EMT Meridians work the Lincoln-Leicester route Monday and Friday only, not all week days as indicated. Wouldn’t want anyone to be disappointed when a 156 rocks up during the week.
 
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Would it be possible to lay out the 800 diagrams as 1000 PAD - BTM 1248 please? It’s just a bit confusing as some people don’t know what those diagrams are and it can sometimes be a pain to have to go to RTT.@SprinterMan

Thank you for the big update though it’s very helpful. :)

PS: if it is a matter of not having enough time that means you have them in “1B05” diagram formation I would be happy to take them all and lay them out in the usual format you use “1000 PAD - SWA 1345” if you want?
 
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TheAdelante said:
Would it be possible to lay out the 800 diagrams as 1000 PAD - BTM 1248 please? It’s just a bit confusing as some people don’t know what those diagrams are! @SprinterMan

I don’t even know how to look up things like “1C05” in RTT, although even doing that would take a while.

Thank you for the big update though!

PS: if it is a matter of not having enough time that means you have them in “1B05” diagram formation I would be happy to take them all and lay them out in the usual format you use “1000 PAD - SWA 1345” if you want?
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Erm. I really don’t want to sound like a constant nag here but... some of these headcodes according to RTT don’t exist for GWR and some of them are for multiple GWR IC services so that’s quite confusing...
 
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Erm. I really don’t want to sound like a constant nag here but... some of these headcodes according to RTT don’t exist for GWR and some of them are for multiple GWR IC services so that’s quite confusing...
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Would it be possible to change the GWR 800 part from headcodes to the following? Saves people from having to go on RTT and it fits in with the way you’ve laid everything else out!

From 2nd January 2018:


1L08 0458 SWA - PAD 0759
1C06 0830 PAD - BRI 1013
1A14 1100 BRI - PAD 1238
1B37 1315 PAD - CDF 1523
1L74 1556 CDF - PAD 1802
1C26 1830 PAD - WSM 2053
1A37 2127 TAU - BRI 2228
2M70 2134 WSM - BRI 2209

1W12 0547 PAD - WOF 0815
1P22 0825 WOF - PAD 1105
1W23 1123 PAD - WOF 1344
1P33 1355 WOF - PAD 1627
1D34 1651 PAD - OXF 1754
1P41 1831 OXF - PAD 1930
1D38 1950 PAD - OXF 2053
1P46 2102 OXF - PAD 2206

1C01 0519 PAD - SWA 0858
1L48 0929 SWA - PAD 1230
1C15 1300 PAD - BRI 1443
1A23 1530 BRI - PAD 1714
1B69 1745 PAD - SWA 2046

1P80 0559 RDG - PAD 0636
1W14 0652 PAD - GMV 0947
1P25 0954 GMV - PAD 1228
1D26 1250 PAD - OXF 1351
1P32 1501 OXF - PAD 1559
1W33 1622 PAD - GMV 1926
1P47 1947 GMV - PAD 2231

1A03 0600 OXF - PAD 0744
1B12 0815 PAD - CDF 1021
1L51 1056 CDF - PAD 1301
1B40 1345 PAD - SWA 1642
1L90 1729 SWA - PAD 2031
1D41 2118 PAD - OXF 2218
1P50 2301 OXF - PAD 0024

1C02 0630 PAD - BRI 0818
1A10 0900 BRI - PAD 1039
1B27 1115 PAD - CDF 1322
1L65 1356 CDF - PAD 1607
1C22 1630 PAD - TAU 1930

1A09 0712 TAU - PAD 1014
1B25 1045 PAD - SWA 1343
1L71 1429 SWA - PAD 1731
1C25 1800 PAD - BRI 1944
1A33 2030 BRI - PAD 2213
1B94 2245 PAD - SWA 0254

1L42 0730 CMN - PAD 1132
1B31 1215 PAD - CDF 1421
1L68 1456 CDF - PAD 1701
1C24 1730 PAD - TAU 2031
1A37 2127 TAU - BRI 2228


Plus from 15th January 2018:

1K05 0609 NBY - PAD 0710
1D15 0721 PAD - OXF 0817
1P19 0901 OXF - PAD 0959
1D22 1050 PAD - OXF 1151
1P28 1301 OXF - PAD 1358
1W29 1421 PAD - WOF 1644
1P42 1726 WOF - PAD 1929

1D13 0618 PAD - OXF 0720
1P16 0807 OXF - PAD 0908
1W19 0929 PAD - WOF 1131
1P29 1200 WOF - PAD 1427
1W31 1522 PAD - GMV 1758
1P45 1834 GMV - PAD 2130

1B05 0645 PAD - SWA 0945
1L52 1029 SWA - PAD 1332
1C17 1400 PAD - BRI 1541
1A25 1630 BRI - PAD 1813
1B79 1845 PAD - SWA 2150

1L38 0759 SWA - PAD 1100
1C13 1200 PAD - BRI 1343
1A21 1430 BRI - PAD 1613
1B59 1645 PAD - SWA 1945
1L96 2029 SWA - BRI 2224

All diagrams correct credit to Clarence Yard. I have simply taken the diagrams from the FRD thread and layed them out how the other frequently requested diagrams are shown. :)
 
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TheAdelante said:
Would it be possible to change the GWR 800 part from headcodes to the following? Saves people from having to go on RTT and it fits in with the way you’ve laid everything else out!

From 2nd January 2018:


1L08 0458 SWA - PAD 0759
1C06 0830 PAD - BRI 1013
1A14 1100 BRI - PAD 1238
1B37 1315 PAD - CDF 1523
1L74 1556 CDF - PAD 1802
1C26 1830 PAD - WSM 2053
1A37 2127 TAU - BRI 2228
2M70 2134 WSM - BRI 2209

1W12 0547 PAD - WOF 0815
1P22 0825 WOF - PAD 1105
1W23 1123 PAD - WOF 1344
1P33 1355 WOF - PAD 1627
1D34 1651 PAD - OXF 1754
1P41 1831 OXF - PAD 1930
1D38 1950 PAD - OXF 2053
1P46 2102 OXF - PAD 2206

1C01 0519 PAD - SWA 0858
1L48 0929 SWA - PAD 1230
1C15 1300 PAD - BRI 1443
1A23 1530 BRI - PAD 1714
1B69 1745 PAD - SWA 2046

1P80 0559 RDG - PAD 0636
1W14 0652 PAD - GMV 0947
1P25 0954 GMV - PAD 1228
1D26 1250 PAD - OXF 1351
1P32 1501 OXF - PAD 1559
1W33 1622 PAD - GMV 1926
1P47 1947 GMV - PAD 2231

1A03 0600 OXF - PAD 0744
1B12 0815 PAD - CDF 1021
1L51 1056 CDF - PAD 1301
1B40 1345 PAD - SWA 1642
1L90 1729 SWA - PAD 2031
1D41 2118 PAD - OXF 2218
1P50 2301 OXF - PAD 0024

1C02 0630 PAD - BRI 0818
1A10 0900 BRI - PAD 1039
1B27 1115 PAD - CDF 1322
1L65 1356 CDF - PAD 1607
1C22 1630 PAD - TAU 1930

1A09 0712 TAU - PAD 1014
1B25 1045 PAD - SWA 1343
1L71 1429 SWA - PAD 1731
1C25 1800 PAD - BRI 1944
1A33 2030 BRI - PAD 2213
1B94 2245 PAD - SWA 0254

1L42 0730 CMN - PAD 1132
1B31 1215 PAD - CDF 1421
1L68 1456 CDF - PAD 1701
1C24 1730 PAD - TAU 2031
1A37 2127 TAU - BRI 2228


Plus from 15th January 2018:

1K05 0609 NBY - PAD 0710
1D15 0721 PAD - OXF 0817
1P19 0901 OXF - PAD 0959
1D22 1050 PAD - OXF 1151
1P28 1301 OXF - PAD 1358
1W29 1421 PAD - WOF 1644
1P42 1726 WOF - PAD 1929

1D13 0618 PAD - OXF 0720
1P16 0807 OXF - PAD 0908
1W19 0929 PAD - WOF 1131
1P29 1200 WOF - PAD 1427
1W31 1522 PAD - GMV 1758
1P45 1834 GMV - PAD 2130

1B05 0645 PAD - SWA 0945
1L52 1029 SWA - PAD 1332
1C17 1400 PAD - BRI 1541
1A25 1630 BRI - PAD 1813
1B79 1845 PAD - SWA 2150

1L38 0759 SWA - PAD 1100
1C13 1200 PAD - BRI 1343
1A21 1430 BRI - PAD 1613
1B59 1645 PAD - SWA 1945
1L96 2029 SWA - BRI 2224

All diagrams correct credit to Clarence Yard. I have simply taken the diagrams from the FRD thread and layed them out how the other frequently requested diagrams are shown. :)
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Can I confirm that these are correct please? Going from the original post by Clarence Yard (https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...grams-allocations.153431/page-18#post-3240942) it seems that the diagrams beginning 1B05 0645 Padd-Swansea and 1L38 0759 Swansea-Padd are meant to begin on the 12th of February, not the 15th of Jan.
 
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superalbs said:
Might it be worth adding the services which avoid Swansea (via Swansea District Line) for ATW?

Here they are:
MON-FRI
1B97 1250 FGH - CDF 1519
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P17003/2018/02/07/advanced

SAT
1B97 1243 FGH - CDF 1518
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P17052/2018/02/10/advanced

SUN
1B97 1240 FGH - CDF 1509
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P17078/2018/02/04/advanced
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Have you got the diagrams to go with them because the thread is for diagrams.
 
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PHILIPE said:
Have you got the diagrams to go with them because the thread is for diagrams.
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No different to the Chiltern moves into Paddington or the unusual XC moves. None of those are complete diagrams on the thread, and to include that would probably be superfluous anyways.
 
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Hello

I am specifically looking for Northern loco hauled diagrams, can anyone show me where they are ?

Thanks

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superalbs said:
Might it be worth adding the services which avoid Swansea (via Swansea District Line) for ATW?

Here they are:
MON-FRI
1B97 1250 FGH - CDF 1519
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P17003/2018/02/07/advanced

SAT
1B97 1243 FGH - CDF 1518
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P17052/2018/02/10/advanced

SUN
1B97 1240 FGH - CDF 1509
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P17078/2018/02/04/advanced
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Found you some more here:-

1W48 0503 Carmarthen to Manchester Picc (EWD)
1V62 1830 Manchester Picc to Carmarthen (SX)
1V54 1830 Manchester Picc to Milford Haven (SO)
1E16 1205 Cardiff Cen to Milford Haven (SUNS)
 
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PHILIPE said:
Found you some more here:-

1W48 0503 Carmarthen to Manchester Picc (EWD)
1V62 1830 Manchester Picc to Carmarthen (SX)
1V54 1830 Manchester Picc to Milford Haven (SO)
1E16 1205 Cardiff Cen to Milford Haven (SUNS)
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EWD? (Every Week Day?)
 
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12 car Gatwick Express 387s on Southern services

Monday-Friday
1A66 1830 VIC-BTN 1937
1A31 1958 BTN-VIC 2056

1A13 1928 BTN-VIC 2026
1A36 2050 VIC-BTN 2148
 
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In the Cross Country section there is a working which is missing.

1C11 0608 Bristol Temple Meads to Plymouth 08.38
This works via Bath Spa and Westbury (Wilts) with the first stop being Taunton.
This is to maintain driver route knowledge in case the direct route is closed due to engineering work or emergency closure.
 
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In the Cross Country section there is a working which is missing.

1C11 0608 Bristol Temple Meads to Plymouth 08.38
This works via Bath Spa and Westbury (Wilts) with the first stop being Taunton.
This is to maintain driver route knowledge in case the direct route is closed due to engineering work or emergency closure.
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Saturday only I believe, weekdays goes the direct route. Certainly an odd working as it is one of the few services booked to go non-stop through the platforms at Westbury.
 
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Does anyone know if Northern will be running the class 37s from Carlisle-Barrow on the Easter bank holidays or will it be Sunday diagrams?

Thanks
 
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gnolife said:
When did Saturday get promoted to being a weekday?
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Sometime in the mid 19th century at a guess, although the 6-day week goes back a few thousand years earlier. :)
Serious answer - the 5-day week is a relatively recent invention, and most office staff worked Saturday mornings into the 1950s.
Railway usage reflects that, and there are plenty of timetables still show SX and SO, though at some stage the header was changed to read Mondays to Saturdays.

BTW the standard European symbol of crossed hammers means "Mondays to Saturdays excepting public holidays" - except in the Czech Republic and Slovakia IIRC.
 
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These are the ex GC HST diagrams from May, Monday to Fridays only.

Diagram 1 is:
1C92 0730 DBY - STP 0927
1D24 1005 STP - NOT 1203

Diagram 2:
1C52 1359 SHF - STP 1624
1M56 1650 STP - COR 1755
1P71 1837 COR - STP 1956
1F73 2031 STP - DBY 2215
 
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