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Tetragon213
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After last night, honestly that was nothing short of positively shambolic from Sergio Perez.
Peter Mugridge
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My daughter informs me that in one of the post race interviews Verstappen ( Verstuffed...? 
) stated quite openly that he was only interested in preventing Norris from winning the race and that's why he did it.
Assuming he actually did say that ( did anyone else see the interviews? ) then isn't that something which is deserving of a full investigation over his conduct?
) stated quite openly that he was only interested in preventing Norris from winning the race and that's why he did it.Assuming he actually did say that ( did anyone else see the interviews? ) then isn't that something which is deserving of a full investigation over his conduct?
Tetragon213
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It very well should do. Otherwise, well, McLaren might as well spend the rest of the season telling Piastri to screw Max over at every opportunity.My daughter informs me that in one of the post race interviews Verstappen ( Verstuffed...?
Assuming he actually did say that ( did anyone else see the interviews? ) then isn't that something which is deserving of a full investigation over his conduct?
It's mad how much Max has been allowed to get away with. There's a great video somewhere on the internet of all the ridiculous shenanigans Max has been involved in and not punished for, set to the tune of "Baby Give it Up" by KC and the Sunshine Band (1982) which came out just after Hungary '24.
He’s not the first to do that and probably won’t be the last.My daughter informs me that in one of the post race interviews Verstappen ( Verstuffed...?
Assuming he actually did say that ( did anyone else see the interviews? ) then isn't that something which is deserving of a full investigation over his conduct?
Agreed, his poor performances have cost red bull the constructors championship. I wonder what deal liberty did to keep Perez at red bull after the summer break..
Tetchytyke
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It’s sadly nothing new in F1. Michael Schumacher was allowed to get away with outright dangerous driving for years and years.
Given the wind tunnel advantages of finishing third, I get the distinct impression Red Bull don’t care too much.
Nicholas Lewis
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His retention is one of the most bizarre decisions ive seen in F1 after watching it for 40+ years
Peter Mugridge
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I got sent this image... sort of sums it all up...
DarloRich
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i am sure the coin he brings comes in useful even for Red Bull! Telemex are a sponsor of Red Bull and will bail out once Perez leaves.
I feel Verstappen and Michael Schumacher are very similar. They both have an analytical win at all costs attitude. They don’t seem to have a filter that says, yes, I want to win… but not like that… Neither seem to care about their reputation or the fact their legacy many be tarnished by dishonesty. Maybe calling the sociopaths is extreme, but if the cap fits…
Logically running Norris of the road the second time made sense. Verstappen was very aware he’d struggle to beat Norris legitimately on race pace. However the Ferraris could challenge Norris, especially if Norris’s race was compromised in some way early on. So Verstappen made sure that when he was passed by Norris that he compromised Norris’s race to minimise the points loss. Tactical brilliance, the fact that this was unsporting doesn’t matter…to him.
I think strong contextual penalties need to be made available to the stewards. It’s the only way to punish these sorts of offences, the normal racing rules just don’t begin cover it.
75A
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Nothing new Senna was another 'Dirty Driver'
Elite, world-class sports people are often very selfish, but Senna, Schumacher and Verstappen cross a line for me. I wouldn't want to go back, but knowing a crash might lead to serious injury or death tended to stop this in the past. There was less money and fame too...
Tetragon213
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Schumi, however, was also much better at running the "behind the scenes" stuff. It's said that Schumi knew every mechanic's first name off by heart, and it's also been semi-corroborated by Mercedes staff who mentioned that Schumi knew everyone's names on day 1 in 2010.
Schumi was extraordinary at playing politics, engineering, and of course driving. I don't think any driver comes even close regarding being a full package.
Anyone been to the F1 Exhibition on in London atm? I went on Monday with my brother, and it was brilliant. Highlights included the British Grand Prix and World Driver Championship trophies, race suits and helmets of various drivers, the remains of Romain Grosjean's car, and his steering wheel, from his fiery accident a few years ago, and a selection of complete F1 cars from retro to modern. They also had a F1 power unit on display. I was amazed at how small it was. I spent around 3 hours in there.
Here's a handful of the photos I took inside (not sure why the trophy ended up on its side....).
Here's a handful of the photos I took inside (not sure why the trophy ended up on its side....).
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Peter Mugridge
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It's the right way up when you click on the picture to enlarge it.
Ah ok.It's the right way up when you click on the picture to enlarge it.
A few bonus photos
They also had Max Verstappen's first Super Licence certificate there.
DarloRich
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is it endorsed with any points?
Ha!is it endorsed with any points?
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The BGP trophy. All those names…
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McLaren just about managed not to botch the sprint race in Brazil with Norris winning ahead of Piastri and Verstappen.
Qualifying was a complete washout, postponed to Sunday morning. Though as it’s a sprint weekend, there hasn’t been as much practice to take fallback times from if it’s still too wet for qualifying.
Qualifying was a complete washout, postponed to Sunday morning. Though as it’s a sprint weekend, there hasn’t been as much practice to take fallback times from if it’s still too wet for qualifying.
Basically, yes.
Why can't they just say GMT then?
Why can't who say it?
Because GMT is no longer the standard to determine time and hasn't been for decades.
Decades? What? Time around the world has always been measured with GMT as the starting point. That's the way it's been since I was a kid. That exactly why GMT exists.
Because time zones like GMT have been deprecated in technical usage. What was previously GMT is now UTC+0.
Yes. Decades:
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
Sometimes in the eighties (likely wrong, see above) I think? Of course we still want to believe GMT is the starting point because were British but it isn't any more.