Yeah I stay near 2 busy roads and it's a nightmare. The only thing that helps near me is that all of the buses are frequent so reliability being bad is far less of an issue
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Yeah I stay near 2 busy roads and it's a nightmare. The only thing that helps near me is that all of the buses are frequent so reliability being bad is far less of an issue
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Glasgowbusguy
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Does anyone have a timetable for the S3
Lucky you stay closer to town.
Yeah 15 mins on a 1. 2 and 6 are completely different though
Takes me a whole hour to get to the City Centre.
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Few funny things happened yesterday.
Was on 6 from Union St to East Kilbride. Noticed on bus stop bus time display the next 6 was a Busby only one. Right after a 6 rolls in with East Kibride on front !
Get to the flyover at the Holiday Inn, East Kilbride. Driver stops the bus, turns out this bus was the Busby terminator and he forgot. I could of walked home from there but needed to go aldi, luckily a 6 came five mins later.
Secondly , i ramdomly took the 29 from Shawlands to Newton Mearns, Few people using it to Hillpark (Strange wee scheme in middle of big houses) . I was only person after Hillpark and driver didnt know the route in Newton Mearns , neither did i . I didnt have data on my phone and no wifi, must be hassle using wi fi .
Wondering how this route is still going rather the the 31 etc.
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The 29/29A/129 is an SPT tender but it was always fairly busy when I used it before Covid. Tend to get a lot of older folk using it from Shawlands to Mansewood/Hillpark and then a few from there into Newton Mearns for the Asda
Whiteway215
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Before the Covid 19 crisis were any of the Glasgow E40H hybrids (39101 series) still on the road or were they all out of service? Thanks.
Scotstoun had them, i seen one on the 6a other week. Not had one on 6 for a long time, maybe not even this year. They were unreliable even when new. Slippy seats too.
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Pokey wee route. I mind it used to go to City Centre.
The evening and Sunday 129s go to the city centre from Mansewood but other than that it doesn't really need to anymore. 38 is a lot quicker to Newton Mearns and there's a fair load of buses to Shawlands from the city centre
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The 129 was actually busy coming out the City up to Shawlands most evenings. On occasions it could have a standing load as anybody going from Town to Shawlands would jump on it. There was regulars late on used it Shawlands to Hillpark.
Yeah I used it once in the evenings when out a wander about 3 or 4 years ago and it was decently loaded. Think there's so many buses during the day in normal circumstances though so it would be a waste of resources to fund it to the city centre then. Feel like it's one of those services that's constantly been with First except the switch due to covid
Seems to be all solos these days.
Had a wee streetlite on the 6 this morning, not the most suited for morning peak. Seen another on the 2.
Noticed the one has lost most of its E300S.
Today? Whilst I wouldn't take bustimes.org as being the most accurate source of information they do list 67711-15, 67717, 67719, 67721-26, 67728-29, 67731-33, 67766-69 and 67771 as having been on various variants of 'the one' today which is by far the majority of Dumbarton's allocation. Don't know if the extras between Clydebank and the City are still running to know what is on those though.
Maybe my eyes were playing tricks. Noticed eclipses on quite a few one services.
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I wonder when we’ll see new buses. I get COVID has played havoc but LEZ is still upcoming.
They were using the Eclipses on the extras between Clydebank and the City when I was there recently:
Queuing for 'the one'
First Glasgow are currently running a number of additional buses on 'the one' between the city centre and Clydebank. Seen on Kilbowie Road awaiting their departure times are Wright bodied Volvos 69119 and 69121.
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They were using the Eclipses on the extras between Clydebank and the City when I was there recently:
Queuing for 'the one'
First Glasgow are currently running a number of additional buses on 'the one' between the city centre and Clydebank. Seen on Kilbowie Road awaiting their departure times are Wright bodied Volvos 69119 and 69121.
Yes seen some on the Clydebank extras and a few Ballochs. What happened to the branded one deckers?
TheGrandWazoo
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Depends if a) they LEZ is deferred at all and b) if the PVR drops as services are cut. Way too early to be talking about new vehicles and may well need support from the government, as the job cuts at ADL suggest.
JumpinTrainz
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Noticed a few B9TLs on the 2, 3, 9, X8 and 90. They badly need refurbed inside.
The B7RLEs could have been refurbed back in the day and used on the 1 services. They have good acceleration and they are good sturdy buses.
It'll be interesting to see how many buses First choose to buy in for Glasgow for the LEZ. Alexander Dennis having problems and job cuts won't help either tbh. Probably a lot of transfers into Glasgow plus service cuts will cover what's needed
The company has applied for funding to retrofit 160 buses. There will be no new buses for a while.
Thanks for the info. Did think that would be the case
Out of curiosity, how much does retrofitting generally cost?
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About £12,500
JumpinTrainz
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You say that but the full B7TL fleet are up for renewal as are the B7RLEs within the next few years. That’s not including the pre-2005 stuff still running around. I get certain services have been reduced/axed however there is still a deadline looming and not every bus on the road just now will be retrofitted. I highly doubt the B9TLs will be done as some of them are about 13 years old already. They account for a massive amount of the fleet. New stock must be due
alexf380
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B9TLs are solid buses and First, I believe, aim for a usable lifespan of 18 years on their vehicles so that's another 5-6 years for a big part of the double decker fleet. Not the least likely to be fitted.
The funding is for over 160 buses. This plus the buses that are already Euro 6 will allow the target for the next stage of LEZ to be met. There will be no new buses for the foreseeable future. Costs have to be cut. The government funding of services is due to end in November.
RomeoCharlie71
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As I've said elsewhere, the government should not be cutting the funding until they allow for full capacity to return. The operators should not have to pay for running half-empty buses because guidelines force them to.
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will be posting this here and jmb thread but jmb have won the contract to replace the 31 between east kilbride and carmunnock