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Gingerbus1991

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What about Mcgills? There operated via the Fastlink and then give up, Also First has never operated Govan Direct Glasgow service in years. There is no demand for such service why would people from Easterhouse go to silverburn when there is Glasgow Fort next door? Travel time would be 80-90mins? bonkers, you would be quicker taking X19 and then changing to an x8.
For instance those going from westerhill to the very bottom of refield st instead of having to get off at the bus station and walk, for those students who may penilee to cally uni etc!
It simply opens up more for people, even if its only for another few stops.
Even suburban routes that dont go to the city centre don’t seem to be well implemented, bottom line having so many operators in glasgow is making them all suffer, they should be regulated more, no use in mcgills and first competing with say the 38 and 9 etc.

With regards to extra long routes when you consider that the 2 and 6 for instance are long inter-suburban routes, most people wont go from Clydebank to East Kilbride, but its always there incase
 
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The Yellow branded buses at ADL are for the 75, one sat at falkirk right now, I assume even though there was rumours of 75 new vehicles or 25 new vehicles which no one seemed to know.
I take it there will be 25 new buses for the 75 route???

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Still, nothing special here though, bland leather seats, boring flooring that could be better, steel wheels that will corrode in a matter of 2 years, no thanx
 

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route101

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What about Mcgills? There operated via the Fastlink and then give up, Also First has never operated Govan Direct Glasgow service in years. There is no demand for such service why would people from Easterhouse go to silverburn when there is Glasgow Fort next door? Travel time would be 80-90mins? bonkers, you would be quicker taking X19 and then changing to an x8.

McGills have got the Govan route sown up with the 23. Cant remember any first route along the 23 route to Govan ?
 

route101

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For instance those going from westerhill to the very bottom of refield st instead of having to get off at the bus station and walk, for those students who may penilee to cally uni etc!
It simply opens up more for people, even if its only for another few stops.
Even suburban routes that dont go to the city centre don’t seem to be well implemented, bottom line having so many operators in glasgow is making them all suffer, they should be regulated more, no use in mcgills and first competing with say the 38 and 9 etc.

With regards to extra long routes when you consider that the 2 and 6 for instance are long inter-suburban routes, most people wont go from Clydebank to East Kilbride, but its always there incase

The 6 is a good example . Very important route as it has important connections such as Clydebank to Anniesland /GWR , West End to Southside , Clarkston /Busby to EK etc , it does suffer from poor timekeeping though , never rely on a 6 .

I think Nottingham done away with cross city routes , though you gotta to wonder where would you terminate them all ? There was talk of Osborne St Car park being turned into a Bus Station
 

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Agree that the 2 could do with more capacity. If they could lose the Airdrie section, it might work as an all decker route, but it has a high PVR so would be expensive to do at a time when the existing decker routes need new vehicles.
Agreed. The only real option would be a return to the previous 62/262 split to do that. Deckers to Airdrie probably aren't an option due to the low bridge at Kirkwood station
 

Gingerbus1991

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Agreed. The only real option would be a return to the previous 62/262 split to do that. Deckers to Airdrie probably aren't an option due to the low bridge at Kirkwood station
I’ve mentioned them before, but, 13.2m Vo B8RLE?
 

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The Yellow branded buses at ADL are for the 75, one sat at falkirk right now, I assume even though there was rumours of 75 new vehicles or 25 new vehicles which no one seemed to know.
I take it there will be 25 new buses for the 75 route???

Proof uploaded

Still, nothing special here though, bland leather seats, boring flooring that could be better, steel wheels that will corrode in a matter of 2 years, no thanx
Could a use this pic for first glasgow Facebook page?
 
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route101

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The Yellow branded buses at ADL are for the 75, one sat at falkirk right now, I assume even though there was rumours of 75 new vehicles or 25 new vehicles which no one seemed to know.
I take it there will be 25 new buses for the 75 route???

Proof uploaded

Still, nothing special here though, bland leather seats, boring flooring that could be better, steel wheels that will corrode in a matter of 2 years, no thanx

Are they basically the same buses E400mmcs as the 65 plates ?

Not a fan of leather seats , sticky in summer , cold in winter .
 

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Are they basically the same buses E400mmcs as the 65 plates ?

Not a fan of leather seats , sticky in summer , cold in winter .
Mechnically yes, as I'm aware anyways first and stagecoach usually buy the standard bus(its cheaper), not sure of the interior, they will have leather seats, thats a given, the flooring might be one-tone wood effect like the latest refurbs seen at FiG, or the ones at Livi, my biggest annoyance with the eLeather they use isits durability, glasgow 62/63 plate 300's are finding the seats wrinkled and already worn out after 5 year
 

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The Yellow branded buses at ADL are for the 75, one sat at falkirk right now, I assume even though there was rumours of 75 new vehicles or 25 new vehicles which no one seemed to know.
I take it there will be 25 new buses for the 75 route???

Proof uploaded

Still, nothing special here though, bland leather seats, boring flooring that could be better, steel wheels that will corrode in a matter of 2 years, no thanx

These buses look extremely smart and I’m loving the branding. From the picture the grab poles at the door look like the colour that’s on the platinum E200s that’s Aberdeen have and the airport E200s?

I guess that frees up some more B9TLs for other services such as the 60/60A, 41 and 61 to oust the remaining Tridents...
 

Volvodart

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First have today launched an extended area Motherwell local day ticket for £3.50.
 

Gingerbus1991

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So FiG are offering £2300 to start with them yet you dont get the 1st £1000 until 12 months in and a further £1300 at the 2 year mark, I cant see this as being a big incentive for anyone to benefit from in until the end of the 1st year
 

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There is an agency in London recruiting for First Glasgow just now. £13p/h ltd status and £70 per week accommodation payment. 50 hours plus per week. Not too bad but it is still first group your working for!

So FiG are offering £2300 to start with them yet you dont get the 1st £1000 until 12 months in and a further £1300 at the 2 year mark, I cant see this as being a big incentive for anyone to benefit from in until the end of the 1st year
 

Gingerbus1991

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There is an agency in London recruiting for First Glasgow just now. £13p/h ltd status and £70 per week accommodation payment. 50 hours plus per week. Not too bad but it is still first group your working for!

True, nothing should surprize me really
 

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There is an agency in London recruiting for First Glasgow just now. £13p/h ltd status and £70 per week accommodation payment. 50 hours plus per week. Not too bad but it is still first group your working for!

Cant attract the local drivers then ...
 

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Mechnically yes, as I'm aware anyways first and stagecoach usually buy the standard bus(its cheaper), not sure of the interior, they will have leather seats, thats a given, the flooring might be one-tone wood effect like the latest refurbs seen at FiG, or the ones at Livi, my biggest annoyance with the eLeather they use isits durability, glasgow 62/63 plate 300's are finding the seats wrinkled and already worn out after 5 year

Was on E300 on the 2 other day on the leather covering had come off a few seats . The worst ones are on the e400 Hybrids for slippyness , bus brakes and you just slide .
 

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Had a treat today on the 31 , a b10ble . Was late into town so maybe a bus swap . Quite fast these
 

Gingerbus1991

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2628886D-38B6-4DB3-8798-0523AF165582.jpeg 24DE93EE-8226-4642-8367-7D05BF819784.jpeg I like what wright bus had done with these, change the fabric to purple and these would look mint.

The lighlty coloured floor shows up dirt far too easily as well, take note FiG.
 
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Volvodart

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There is an agency in London recruiting for First Glasgow just now. £13p/h ltd status and £70 per week accommodation payment. 50 hours plus per week. Not too bad but it is still first group your working for!

That is the pay rate the agency drivers in Aberdeen are getting paid. Are you sure it is not for there?
 

Gingerbus1991

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Was in London and was on a streetdeck , theres are low spec compared to Lothian.
When comparing buses the only few options you find on lothians are the extra glazing on the staircase, roof and upper A-pillars, the durabright alloys and a white LED hanover, apart from these things the streetdecks are standard with a voith gearbox, zf an options.

Or standard with a zf gearbox on a volvo chassis
 
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Gingerbus1991

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Q & A. The Enviro 400H’s that FiG have, have these turned out to be more reliable than Lothians equivalent 400H’s? Considering there the same age i’d be interested to know!
 

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Q & A. The Enviro 400H’s that FiG have, have these turned out to be more reliable than Lothians equivalent 400H’s? Considering there the same age i’d be interested to know!

Well i seen one broken down at rush hour at Gorbals Cross today , seen and been on quite a few broken down . Think Scotstoun have them all now , horrible slippy seats on them
 

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