Europhoenix / ESH Class 37s discussion (including ROG spot hire)

[47286Dan]

Not sure of the livery it will be given but it’s moving from the GROG (ROG) pool over to the EPUK (Europheonix) pool.

Dan

 

[BillStampy]

Can anyone confirm what ran 0N36 to Allerton this morning?
Curious ahead of its future moves going into this weekend.

 

[Rail Quest]

Can anyone confirm what ran 0N36 to Allerton this morning?
Curious ahead of its future moves going into this weekend.

37884 according to Railcam allocation

Link to the service on Railcam with the allocation (requires Railcam subscription to access): https://railcam.uk/rcdata/RCData2_detail.php?r=S&tid=570N361E29&ts=undefined

 

[BillStampy]

37884 according to Railcam allocation

Link to the service on Railcam with the allocation (requires Railcam subscription to access): https://railcam.uk/rcdata/RCData2_detail.php?r=S&tid=570N361E29&ts=undefined

Much appreciated, thank you!

 

[AstroAreus]

Just seen this video online by green signal going over the testing of 37218 using HVO (Hydrotreated Vegetable Oil) and a carride that covers from Leicester LIP - Barrow Hill LIP and return, if anyone is interested in watching the video i've put it down below and the timetabled working of 37218 and 423

Video:

Timetabled working: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R31622/2026-02-03/detailed

 

[Rail Quest]

Just seen this video online by green signal going over the testing of 37218 using HVO (Hydrotreated Vegetable Oil) and a carride that covers from Leicester LIP - Barrow Hill LIP and return, if anyone is interested in watching the video i've put it down below and the timetabled working of 37218 and 423

The video also offered some more information about how the 93 deployment is affecting ROG's ongoing class 37 use. One of the interviewees stated that ROG had 6 locos hired from Europhoenix and, in the wake of the 93s are reducing that to four. The four remaining locos are leased for a further three years.

 

[47286Dan]

Wednesday afternoon update

ROG

37501 GROG BCSTMODGB BCSTMODGB F N
37510 GROG GASWDWSUS 160M562K04 F RECTRYJCR N
37512 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37611 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37800 GROG GASWDWSUS 160M562K04 E * RECTRYJCR N
37884 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR 2 N
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37423 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37901 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR C X

Dan

 

[CR165022]

Isn't 37611 in the EPR/Europheonix pool now? It's in the EPR livery at the very least.

 

[47286Dan]

Isn't 37611 in the EPR/Europheonix pool now? It's in the EPR livery at the very least.

Not officially changed pools yet

Dan

 

[Rail Quest]

Is 37512 the other that's going/gone back to EPR?

 

[47286Dan]

Wednesday morning update

ROG

37501 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37510 GROG HOLYHDOLD HOLYHDOLD V N
37512 GROG RECTRYJCR 550Z372K18 F DERBY RTC N
37611 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37800 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37884 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR 555L181617 E * ELY PAPW N
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37423 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37901 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR C X

Dan

 

[Rhinojerry]

423 and 611 pulled into Preston at 1516,with about 5 or 6 coaches in tow.Looked and sounded great.
Cannot find on RTT where they were heading,pointing Northbound.
Found it,Peterborough to Dundee,1Z23.

 

[matt]

423 and 611 pulled into Preston at 1516,with about 5 or 6 coaches in tow.Looked and sounded great.
Cannot find on RTT where they were heading,pointing Northbound.

They were working a Branch Line Society tour to Dundee.

 

[Trainman40083]

423 and 611 pulled into Preston at 1516,with about 5 or 6 coaches in tow.Looked and sounded great.
Cannot find on RTT where they were heading,pointing Northbound.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U77921/2026-03-19/detailed. The 37s worked this special from Leicester.

 

[Rhinojerry]

They were working a Branch Line Society tour to Dundee.

Thank you.

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https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U77921/2026-03-19/detailed. The 37s worked this special from Leicester.

Thank you.

 

[47286Dan]

Monday afternoon update
ROG

37501 GROG TYSELYLMD 665Q651Y13 V * SOHO LMD N
37510 GROG HOLYHDOLD HOLYHDOLD V N
37512 GROG RECTRYJCR 550Z373N13 F WST EALNG N
37611 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37800 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC E N
37884 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR E N
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR 550Z373N13 F WST EALNG N
37423 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37901 EPUK MATLOCKPR MATLOCKPR F N

Dan

 

[XCTurbostar]

Thanks @47286Dan Impressive to see all but one 37 serviceable!

 

[47286Dan]

Wednesday morning update

ROG

37501 GROG DERBY RTC 570V711522 F BCSTMODGB N
37510 GROG ELY PAPW 467H701D22 D * WOLVTN CS N
37512 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37611 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR 8 N
37800 GROG ELY PAPW 467H701D22 F WOLVTN CS N
37884 GROG ALERTNTDT 360M571G22 F DERBY RTC N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR E N
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37423 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR 8 N
37901 EPUK LESTER SD LESTER SD F N

Dan

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Monday afternoon update

ROG

37501 GROG GASWDWSUS 165Q771Q27 V * BLETCHTMD N
37510 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37512 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37611 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR 8 N
37800 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37884 GROG SOHO LMD 650M571I27 F DERBY RTC N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR E N
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37423 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR 8 N
37901 EPUK LESTER SD LESTER SD F N

Dan

 

[47286Dan]

Thursday morning update

ROG

37501 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37510 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC D N
37512 GROG DERBY RTC 570V711507 F BCSTMODGB N
37611 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR 8 N
37800 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37884 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC V N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR E N
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37423 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR 8 N
37901 EPUK LESTER SD 590Z362M06 F MIDLNDRFD N

Dan

 

[47286Dan]

Thursday morning update

ROG

37501 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37510 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37512 GROG DERBY RTC 575E171604 F HOLBECKSD N
37611 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37800 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37884 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37423 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR 8 N
37901 EPUK DERBY RTC 575E171604 V * HOLBECKSD N

Loram

37418 LRLO SWNIEPMNR 795Z361D04 E * SWANSEA N
With Caroline

Dan

 

[Flange Squeal]

Europhoenix Rail have ceased trading, according to a post on the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway's Facebook page informing 37407 can no longer attend their diesel gala (but 37218 will). My limited understanding is that Europhoenix Rail Ltd (the TOC) is a technically separate entity to plain Europhoenix Limited (the stock owner), but I'm sure those more in the know will be able to expand on that!

Diesel Gala Update
On Monday, the KWVR learnt that Europhoenix Rail had ceased trading, placing the planned movements of 37218 and 37407 for next week's Diesel Gala in doubt.
Our sincere thanks go to everyone at Europhoenix Rail for their friendship, support, and hard work in bringing the event together. We know this news will be difficult for many, and our thoughts are with all those affected.
Working closely with our industry colleagues, we are pleased to confirm that 37218 will still attend the Gala. However, the additional costs arising from changes to the planned movements mean that the visit of 37407 can no longer take place.
As a result, some locomotive allocations are likely to change. Updated timetables will be published once the Gala Team has worked through the revisions.
kwvr.co.uk/dieselgala/
#kwvr // kwvr.co.uk

Source: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1460331019461470&id=100064537578260

 

[co-tr-paul]

Whilst the TOC will cease loco hire apparently will continue.

 

[InvernessTMD]

Diesel Gala Update

On Monday, the KWVR learnt that Europhoenix Rail had ceased trading, placing the planned movements of 37218 and 37407 for next week's Diesel Gala in doubt.
Our sincere thanks go to everyone at Europhoenix Rail for their friendship, support, and hard work in bringing the event together. We know this news will be difficult for many, and our thoughts are with all those affected.
Working closely with our industry colleagues, we are pleased to confirm that 37218 will still attend the Gala with thanks to Hanson & Hall. However, the additional costs arising from changes to the planned movements mean that the visit of 37407 can no longer take place.
As a result, some locomotive allocations are likely to change. Updated timetables will be published once the Gala Team has worked through the revisions.

kwvr.co.uk/dieselgala/
#kwvr // kwvr.co.uk

Not sure of any details, but the K&WVR have just posted this. Sad day, puts the Europhoenix 37s up in the air

 

[fgwrich]

Not sure of any details, but the K&WVR have just posted this. Sad day, puts the Europhoenix 37s up in the air

It doesn’t. It’s the TOC side of the business that is being closed. Europhoenix still owns the locos and most of the rolling stock and will still be hiring them out to the likes of HNRC / Colas / ROG etc.

Glenn has indeed put a statement over on WNXX tonight explaining the situation - in an increasingly crowded market, it’s a shrewd move.

EPR...
After a great deal of thought, the difficult decision has been taken, to close Europhoenix Rail (the EPR branded part of the operation) - the current economic climate continues to present significant challenges for businesses across the rail industry.
"I would also like to reassure customers and industry colleagues that Europhoenix, as the owner and largest spot-hire supplier of Class 37 locomotives, remains unchanged. The closure of Europhoenix Rail does not affect the Europhoenix locomotive ownership or spot-hire activities, and these operations will continue as normal.
This business has been a huge part of my life, and the decision has not been made lightly. I am immensely proud of what we have achieved and deeply grateful to everyone who has supported us over the last three years - our customers, suppliers, colleagues and friends. The relationships, experiences and memories gained along the way will stay with me forever.
While it is sad to bring this chapter to a close, I do so with gratitude, pride and optimism for the future. Thank you to everyone who has been part of the journey..."
Europhoenix

 

[43096]

Glenn has indeed put a statement over on WNXX tonight explaining the situation - in an increasingly crowded market, it’s a shrewd move.

Shrewd? I don’t think so. All it demonstrates is a distinct lack of shrewdness by setting up EPR as a TOC in the first place.

It always struck me as odd to set up to compete with your existing customers that you are hiring locos to.

 

[DJGREW999]

It doesn’t. It’s the TOC side of the business that is being closed. Europhoenix still owns the locos and most of the rolling stock and will still be hiring them out to the likes of HNRC / Colas / ROG etc.
Glenn has indeed put a statement over on WNXX tonight explaining the situation - in an increasingly crowded market, it’s a shrewd move.


I am not aware EPL have ever hired their locos out to HNRC or Colas, they have plenty of Class 37's.

They hire to ROG and (did) operate the locos themselves, and that is pretty much it.

It is hinted on the wnxx news page that there will be a "fleet review" and some Class 37's may be sold. I think that is the inevitable outcome and the likes of 37218, 37407 and 37423 may find new homes in the fullness of time.....

 

[ExRes]

Europhoenix Rail have ceased trading, according to a post on the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway's Facebook page informing 37407 can no longer attend their diesel gala (but 37218 will). My limited understanding is that Europhoenix Rail Ltd (the TOC) is a technically separate entity to plain Europhoenix Limited (the stock owner), but I'm sure those more in the know will be able to expand on that!


Source: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1460331019461470&id=100064537578260

EPR appear to have been sold to ESH Rail Services, corroboration to follow but WNXX are very rarely wrong, the big bonus for ESH will, of course, be the EPR operating licence

 

[CDM Transport]

It has been made apparent elsewhere that Europhenix are looking to sell some of their 37s.

An article speaking on ESH aquiring EPRs license said " Meanwhile, Europhoenix has denied any suggestions it has sold any of its Class 37 fleet.

It says it has had some enquiries about 37069/407, but no deals have been done, and the sale of 37407 Blackpool Tower, which is fully operational and main line compliant, is now on hold pending other developments in the business.

Aggregates firm set to buy Europhoenix train licence | Rail freight https://share.google/YaHoFFjWmSdNm2Azu

 

[Welshguy1048]

Filmed at Prestatyn, North Wales

07/07/26 - ROG Class 37 - 37884 - Light Locomotive - Derby R.T.C. to Holyhead Car M.D.

 

[47286Dan]

Thursday morning update

ROG

37501 GROG BCSTMODGB 745Q871C09 F WIMBPDTSD N
37510 GROG BCSTMODGB 745Q871C09 D * WIMBPDTSD N
37512 GROG DERBY RTC 570R591G09 F LESTER SD N
37611 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37800 GROG RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37884 GROG CANTONSDG 785Q401F09 V * HOLYHDOLD N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37407 EPRL DERBY RTC 570R591G09 F LESTER SD N
37423 EPUK DERBY RTC 570R591G09 F LESTER SD N
37901 EPUK DERBY RTC 570R591G09 F LESTER SD N

Dan