DRS fleet update

[SprinterMan]

Yay, looks like everyone's favourite DBSO will be part of the new Glow-Ex trains!
http://www.carlswatson.com/Trains/G...s/dbso9710eastleighworks10thdecember2012.html

Adam

 

[fgwrich]

Also looks like the Cargo D Mk2s are to loose their BR Blue Grey Livery, again unfortunatly in favour of DRS's livery.

http://www.wnxx.com/content/010113/coach.htm

Shame. One of the reasons why DRS were apparently interested in the ex Cargo D mk2s was for looking into the Charter Market. Now, where have we seen DRS Liveried rolling stock previously in the charter market :roll: ....

(Incidently, some of the Ex Virgin, Ex DRS, now DB Regio have been moved up to Long Marston {ex Bletchley} , still complete with DRS & Ocean Liner Express branding)

 

[D365]

Yay, looks like everyone's favourite DBSO will be part of the new Glow-Ex trains!
http://www.carlswatson.com/Trains/G...s/dbso9710eastleighworks10thdecember2012.html

Adam

I actually quite like that shot for some strange reason!

 

[Boothby97]

For some reason I now cannot wait to get trainspotting in February. I don't know if the glow-ex will initially start with DBSOs, don't know how much work is required for them to be used again.
37261 is now in XHNC pool and 20305 has been stopped with a fault (can't remember what though)

Thanks, Sam

 

[SprinterMan]

Also looks like the Cargo D Mk2s are to loose their BR Blue Grey Livery, again unfortunatly in favour of DRS's livery.

http://www.wnxx.com/content/010113/coach.htm

Shame. One of the reasons why DRS were apparently interested in the ex Cargo D mk2s was for looking into the Charter Market. Now, where have we seen DRS Liveried rolling stock previously in the charter market :roll: ....

(Incidently, some of the Ex Virgin, Ex DRS, now DB Regio have been moved up to Long Marston {ex Bletchley} , still complete with DRS & Ocean Liner Express branding)

I am glad the Mark 2s are being repainted tbh, I really dislike BR blue & grey. I can't understand why DRS are not using their own Mark 3s instead of Mark 2s though. If I was them, I would try and fit TDM to a 47 or 57/3 and run the train with Mark 3s and one of the many DVTs that are sitting in Long Marston gathering dust and mould. Even if it had to be a DBSO, why use Mark 2s instead of the Mark 3s? :P

I actually quite like that shot for some strange reason!

Nothing strange about it, the ONE livery was glorious and I have never forgiven NXEA for killing it :P

For some reason I now cannot wait to get trainspotting in February. I don't know if the glow-ex will initially start with DBSOs, don't know how much work is required for them to be used again.
37261 is now in XHNC pool and 20305 has been stopped with a fault (can't remember what though)

Thanks, Sam

The DBSOs are going to need a fair amount of work, from what I hear there is quite alot of corrosion damage and they need blue star multiple working fitted so they can work with 37/4s.

Adam

 

[D6975]

Anyone got a definitive date for the start of the Glow-Ex??

I've heard second week in Feb, but that's not from official sources.

 

[fgwrich]

I am glad the Mark 2s are being repainted tbh, I really dislike BR blue & grey. I can't understand why DRS are not using their own Mark 3s instead of Mark 2s though. If I was them, I would try and fit TDM to a 47 or 57/3 and run the train with Mark 3s and one of the many DVTs that are sitting in Long Marston gathering dust and mould. Even if it had to be a DBSO, why use Mark 2s instead of the Mark 3s? :P



Nothing strange about it, the ONE livery was glorious and I have never forgiven NXEA for killing it :P



The DBSOs are going to need a fair amount of work, from what I hear there is quite alot of corrosion damage and they need blue star multiple working fitted so they can work with 37/4s.

Adam

They do need alot of work. Im sure i posted somewhere on here a while ago that their going to need a fair amount of new metalwork - mostly on the front, cabs going to need a good refurbishment (especially if they want them as good as the NR ones), a good thorough overhaul - as Anglia's Mk2s were never the best, as well as a good tidy up inside.

 

[Brian Aylott]

I am glad the Mark 2s are being repainted tbh, I really dislike BR blue & grey. I can't understand why DRS are not using their own Mark 3s instead of Mark 2s though. If I was them, I would try and fit TDM to a 47 or 57/3 and run the train with Mark 3s and one of the many DVTs that are sitting in Long Marston gathering dust and mould. Even if it had to be a DBSO, why use Mark 2s instead of the Mark 3s? :P



Nothing strange about it, the ONE livery was glorious and I have never forgiven NXEA for killing it :P



The DBSOs are going to need a fair amount of work, from what I hear there is quite alot of corrosion damage and they need blue star multiple working fitted so they can work with 37/4s.

Adam

It would of course be difficult for DRS to use their own Mark 3s because they haven't got any
Brian Aylott

 

[Chester025]

Shame. One of the reasons why DRS were apparently interested in the ex Cargo D mk2s was for looking into the Charter Market. Now, where have we seen DRS Liveried rolling stock previously in the charter market :roll: ....

But they're not for charters.

I've heard second week in Feb, but that's not from official sources.

18th Feb has been quoted.

 

[Phil6219]

A DBSO would be a better option than a DVT as the former has a passenger compartment whereas a DVT does not, I can't see a demand for so much bicycle and luggage space on those services.

It's a shame they are repainting them from B&G though. Still it'll be better to look at than the large amounts of maroon we see over here...

Phil

 

[D365]

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[Chester025]

Deleted. The DBSOs are being refurbed for charters, right?

No. They are going to be used on Cumbrian Coast service trains with 37/4s on the 'other' end.

 

[fgwrich]

But they're not for charters.



18th Feb has been quoted.

Hence why i said looking into the charter market. Anyway, i cant see DRS Using 20 / 24 Odd Mk2s on the Cumbrian Coast service, not unless their planning to run every service along the line.

And they've got to find uses for the ETH Fitted 37/4s, 47s & 57/3s somehow - not all of those will be needed on the West Coast, GEML & Cumbrian Coast contracts.

 

[D365]

Ah OK, I didn't read any of that

 

[shedman]

From what I am led to believe its not gonna be a few trains....

 

[SprinterMan]

It would of course be difficult for DRS to use their own Mark 3s because they haven't got any
Brian Aylott

Oh, what happened to the Stobart Pullman or the Ocean Liner Express?

Adam

 

[87015]

Oh, what happened to the Stobart Pullman or the Ocean Liner Express?

Adam

Its DRS, they get bored with everything pretty quickly!!

 

[fgwrich]

Oh, what happened to the Stobart Pullman or the Ocean Liner Express?

Adam

Stobart Pullman failed after a few trips - Largely down to a severe lack of bookings.

Ocean Liner Express also ended up being cancelled in the end. That one was intended to be a joint venture between DRS & UK Railtours, in the end falling on it's self when DRS had the bizzare management changes of 2009 - Where upon they couldnt get the stock ready in time, had problems with the Mk1 Kitchen Cars (One Ex Blue Pullman, brought from the ashes of FM Rail - later used in the also failed Stobart Pullman, Both laterally sold to Cargo D), Problems with the locos etc... Which in the end, led to John Farrow moving over to the DBS / Riviera Trains Alliance.

In the end, the Mk3s were sold in 2010 to DB Regio - some i think ending up in the Chiltern / Arriva Trains Wales Mk3 Fleets, whilst the remainder have been moved out from Wembley & Bletchley to Long Marston.

 

[jamieintercity]

57010 is released from overhaul as well as 57307 which is in the drs livery without the drs compass logo but still with its nameplate on!!! The pair will be dragged back to crewe from eastleigh behind 47818.

57313 to 316 are not going to to be with drs as there are destind to go to wcrc.

 

[jopsuk]

Almost a pity that DRS won't be running the DBSOs with some mark 3s and a 47.

 

[fgwrich]

Almost a pity that DRS won't be running the DBSOs with some mark 3s and a 47.

And in Blue Grey (Ok, not entirely correct for a DBSO) or Intercity Are DRS's 47s fitted with Blue Star or is it green dot? multi working?.

 

[Boothby97]

I am pleased that 57313-316 have been sold to WCRC, they need them!
I'll update the list soon, haven't got time this evening (iPhone thrown it's dummy out the pram, so to speak :roll
Thanks, Sam

 

[Phil6219]

as well as 57307 which is in the drs livery without the drs compass logo but still with its nameplate on!!!

Not just with it's nameplate on but it along with the Thunderbirds plate have been moved to the usual DRS position behind the cab door. Nice to see it will be kept

Phil

 

[Rhydgaled]

Yay, looks like everyone's favourite DBSO will be part of the new Glow-Ex trains!

Is that the one still in INTERCITY swallow livery (under the ONE vynals)? I'd reaaly like to see a Swallow liveried rake of mark2s, including a DBSO, in service (even if just a spare rake, with a TOC's livery on the main services rakes it is the spare for).

If I was them, I would try and fit TDM to a 47 or 57/3 and run the train with Mark 3s and one of the many DVTs that are sitting in Long Marston gathering dust and mould.

Agreed, why modify coaches, DVTs and 67s for Chiltern/WSMR and ATW's loco-hauled operations when you could just fit TDM to some 57s (or something) and run with any DVT or DBSO? Just seems daft to modify every aspect of the train when alterations just to the locos would suffice if a different method was used.

 

[jamieintercity]

are both 37402 and 405 close to returning to traffic?

 

[Boothby97]

are both 37402 and 405 close to returning to traffic?

I believe both are now ready to go, 37405 should now be in DRS colours.
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DRS Fleet Update

Locomotives
Number Livery Pool Allocation Notes
20301 DS XHSS ZG
20302 DR XHSS ZG
20303 DR XHNC KM
20304 DR XHSS ZG
20305 DS XHSS ZG
20306 DR XHSS BH
20307 DR XHSS KM
20308 DS XHNC KM
20309 DS XHSS KM
20310 DR XHSS KM
20312 DS XHNC KM
20313 DR XHSS KM
20315 DR XHSS KM
37038 DR XHNC KM
37059 DS XHSS BH
37069 DS XHSS CR
37087 DR XHSS BH
37194 DS XHNC KM
37218 DS XHNC KM
37229 DS XHNC KM
37259 DS XHNC KM
37261 DS XHNC KM
37401 E XHHP BH (for overhaul)
37402 DS XHHP BH
37405 E XHHP BH
37409 DS XHAC KM
37410 E XHHP KM (sold to CF Booth's Rotherham)
37411 G XHHP ZA (for overhaul)
37419 DS XHAC KM
37422 E XHHP KM
37423 DS XHAC KM
37425 DS XHAC KM
37510 DS XHSS BH
37601 DS XHNC KM
37602 DS XHNC KM
37603 DS XHNC KM
37604 DS XHNC KM
37605 DS XHNC KM
37606 DS XHNC KM
37607 DS XHNC KM
37608 DS XHNC KM
37609 DS XHNC KM
37610 DS XHNC KM
37611 DS XHNC KM
37612 DS XHNC KM
37667 DS XHNC KM
37682 DS XHNC KM
37683 DS XHSS ZA
37688 DS XHNC KM
47501 DS XHAC KM
47712 DS XHSS CR
47747 E XHAC CR
47790 VN XHAC KM
47791 DS XHHP BH
47802 DS XHAC KM
47805 DS XHAC KM
47810 DS XHAC KM
47813 DS XHAC KM
47818 DS XHAC KM
47828 DS XHAC KM
47832 VN XHAC KM
47839 RV XHHP ZG
47841 DS XHAC KM
47853 DS XHAC KM
57002 DS XHSS ZG
57003 DS XHCK KM
57004 DS XHCK KM
57007 DS XHCK KM
57008 DS XHCK KM
57009 DS XHCK KM
57010 DS XHSS KM
57011 DS XHCK KM
57012 DS XHSS ZA Undergoing Overhaul
57302 DS XHAC KM
57304 DS XHAC KM
57307 DS XHAC KM
57308 VT XHAC KM
57309 DS XHAC KM
57311 VT XHAC KM
66301 DS XHIM KM
66302 DS XHIM KM
66303 DS XHIM KM
66304 DS XHIM KM
66305 DS XHIM KM
66421 DS XHIM KM
66422 DS XHIM KM
66423 DS XHIM KM
66424 DS XHIM KM
66425 DS XHIM KM
66426 DS XHIM KM
66427 DS XHIM KM
66428 DS XHIM KM
66429 DS XHIM KM
66430 DS XHIM KM
66431 DS XHIM KM
66432 DS XHIM KM
66433 DS XHIM KM
66434 AL XHIM KM


Coaching Stock
Number Livery Operator Allocation
1254 BG BH
3366 BG BH
3374 BG BH
5700 FV BH
5710 FV BH
5810 BG ZG
5901 BG ZK
5919 BG ZK
5971 BG ZG
5995 BG ZK
6001 BG ZG
6008 BG ZG
6046 BG ZK
6064 BG ZK
6117 BG ZG
6122 BG ZG
6173 BG ZK
9488 FV BH
9506 BG SR MH (on loan to ScotRail)
9508 BG BH
9525 BG ZG
9705 AR ZG
9707 AR ZG
17159 DS ZG

New Codes
Depot
ZK - Kilmarnock Works
Remove livery code AW - no longer used (for the DRS fleet)

Notes
*The above coaches in bold have moved to Kilmarnock Works (ZK)
*The DBSO in the last page, the only member still to carry One Livery, is actually owned by BARS (the company that owns a number of 31s and 56s, known as DCR) and unless it's been sold it shouldn't see used on the Glow-ex trains!
* 37402 ready to go!!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/martin65/8358110067/

If there any mistakes let me know, I am responsible for any mistakes hock:
Thanks, Sam
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From WNXX:

14/01/13 - 01/02/13 DRS Cumbrian Coast Route Training Runs (Mon-Fri)
5Z47

Carlisle Kingmoor Tmd(Drs) 0610
Caldew Jn 0615
Carlisle 0618-0620
Penrith North Lakes 0643-0645
Tebay 0706
Grayrigg 0714-0742
Oxenholme Lake District 0752-0755
Carnforth North Jn 0807
Carnforth D&U.G.L. 0809-0852
Carnforth North Jn 0854
Carnforth 0855
Arnside 0905
Grange-over-sands 0910-0912
Ulverston 0924
Dalton 0932-0935
Dalton Jn 0937
Barrow-in-furness 0946-0949
Park South 0956
Askam 0959-1002
Foxfield 1012
Millom 1018
Bootle 1028
Drigg 1036
Seascale 1040-1041
Sellafield 1043
St Bees 1055-1059
Whitehaven 1106-1108
Parton 1112
Parton North Jn 1116
Workington 1125
Maryport 1133
Wigton 1156-1159
Dalston 1209-1211
Currock Jn 1218
Carlisle 1224-1229
Caldew Jn 1233
Carlisle Kingmoor Tmd(Drs) 1240

5Z48

Carlisle Kingmoor Tmd(Drs) 1405
Caldew Jn 1410
Carlisle 1415-1425
Currock Jn 1433
Dalston 1438-1441
Wigton 1452-1500
Aspatria 1515-1517
Maryport 1529
Flimby 1533-1536
Workington 1542
Parton North Jn 1549
Parton 1553
Whitehaven 1557-1610
St Bees 1618-1619
Sellafield 1631
Seascale 1635-1637
Drigg 1641
Bootle 1649
Millom 1658
Foxfield 1705
Askam 1713-1714
Park South 1718
Barrow-in-furness 1727-1733
Dalton Jn 1741
Dalton 1743-1746
Ulverston 1756
Grange-over-sands 1809-1812
Arnside 1818
Carnforth 1839
Carnforth North Jn 1840
Carnforth D&U.G.L. 1842-1943
Carnforth North Jn 1945
Oxenholme Lake District 1957-2000
Grayrigg 2009-2030
Tebay 2037
Penrith North Lakes 2056-2057
Carlisle 2114-2115
Caldew Jn 2118
Carlisle Kingmoor Tmd(Drs) 2124

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07/01/13 - 25/01/13 DRS North West Training Runs (Mon - Fri)
5Z45

Crewe H.S. 0900
Gresty Lane Sig. Gl37 0901-0902
Crewe Gresty Lane 0905
Crewe Gresty Green Up Loop 0908-0931
Crewe Gresty Lane 0935
Crewe 0937-0943
Crewe Coal Yard 0945
Winsford 0952
Hartford 0957-1000
Hartford Jn 1002
Acton Bridge 1003
Weaver Jn 1005
Runcorn 1010
Ditton East Junction 1014
Liverpool South Pw Hl 1022
Wavertree Jn 1025
Edge Hill S.B. 1027
Edge Hill 1027
Liverpool Lime Street 1032-1040
Edge Hill 1046
Edge Hill S.B. 1047
Bootle Branch Jn 1048
Olive Mount Jn. 1049
Huyton Jn 1053
Rainhill 1056
St Helens Junction 1100-1103
Earlestown 1107
Newton-le-willows 1108
Astley 1114
Patricroft 1117-1120
Eccles 1122
Ordsall Lane Jn 1125
Deal Street Jn 1128
Manchester Victoria 1131
Miles Platting 1135
Philips Park West Jn 1135
Baguley Fold Jn 1138
Ashton Moss North Jn 1143
Denton Jn 1149
Denton Station Jn 1151
Ash Bridge Junction 1155
Heaton Norris Jn 1156
Stockport 1158
Edgeley Jn No1 1159
Adswood Road Jn 1209
Cheadle Hulme 1211
Macclesfield 1223-1237
Congleton 1246
Kidsgrove 1251-1254
Grange Jn. 1259
Stoke On Trent North 1308-1315
Stoke-on-trent 1317-1319
Stoke Jn 1320
Sideway Loop (Stoke) 1324

5Z46

Sideway Loop (Stoke) 1339
Stoke Jn 1342
Stoke-on-trent 1343
Kidsgrove 1350
Congleton 1355
Macclesfield 1400
Cheadle Hulme 1409
Adswood Road Jn 1410
Edgeley Jn No1 1412
Stockport 1413
Heaton Norris Jn 1415
Ash Bridge Junction 1417
Denton Station Jn 1421
Denton Jn 1422-1443
Ashton Moss North Jn 1449
Baguley Fold Jn 1454
Philips Park West Jn 1456
Miles Platting 1456
Manchester Victoria 1459
Deal Street Jn 1501
Ordsall Lane Jn 1514
Eccles 1518
Astley 1523
Newton-le-willows 1529
Earlestown 1531
Winwick Jn 1534
Dallam Junction 1537
Warrington Bank Quay 1539-1544
Acton Grange Jn 1548
Weaver Jn 1552
Acton Bridge 1554
Hartford Jn 1556
Winsford 1600
Crewe Coal Yard 1606
Crewe 1608-1613
Crewe Gresty Lane 1615
Crewe Gresty Green Up Loop 1619-1631
Crewe Gresty Lane 1635
Crewe H.S. 1640

Stock for the Carlisle-Carlisle runs will be going up north Friday, no DBSOs for the test runs though!
Thanks, Sam

 

[Phil6219]

Apparently there are some training runs to take place between Crewe and Stoke via Manchester (5Z45 & 5Z46). They should have started on the 07th and run until the 25th. Aside from the timings I've not heard any gen regarding what's hauling them, so are they running yet?

Phil

 

[D6975]

Is there any significance to the routes that 5Z45/6 are taking or is it purely traction knowledge??

 

[Greybeard33]

I glimpsed what was presumably 5Z45 heading south through Stockport on the Up Slow at about 12:30 today. A few empty Mk.2's topped and tailed by locos in DRS livery - didn't see any numbers I'm afraid.
Update: returned north through Cheadle Hulme a few minutes early, about 14:02. Again only glimpsed it, but rear loco was a 47.

 

[Boothby97]

I glimpsed what was presumably 5Z45 heading south through Stockport on the Up Slow at about 12:30 today. A few empty Mk.2's topped and tailed by locos in DRS livery - didn't see any numbers I'm afraid.
Update: returned north through Cheadle Hulme a few minutes early, about 14:02. Again only glimpsed it, but rear loco was a 47.

From WNXX forum;
47501
9507
3386
3345
3304
1212
5952
47813

Apparently there are some training runs to take place between Crewe and Stoke via Manchester (5Z45 & 5Z46). They should have started on the 07th and run until the 25th. Aside from the timings I've not heard any gen regarding what's hauling them, so are they running yet?

Part of the timings I posted above.

Thanks, Sam