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Whistler40145

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Was it dismal batting by the Aussies or a lively wicket?
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As Botham said about the 1981 Ashes "It's not over until the fat lady sings!"
 

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My interest in cricket began with the Old Trafford test of 1956 when Jim Laker took 19 Australian wickets, and apparently Broad's 8 - 15 were the best Ashes figures by an Englishman other than those figures of Laker's.

Great to see Bairstow getting runs for England again too, but Lyth remains a problem.

The Australian High Commissioner was interviewed on The World Tonight on Radio 4 and said he had tickets for Sunday's play! He did enter the spirit of things and say he was sure there were plenty more things to do in Nottingham though.

Not heard much from KP since Lords, have we?
 

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I just feel Lyth got a rare good ball, if he got out like Bairstow did the media would of rounded up on him, but if you get a good ball and get out, all you can say is unlucky, and move on.
 

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Clarke's a lame duck and needs putting out of our misery. It isn't Twenty20, it isn't about putting the ball in the car park, it's about settling down for 80-100 overs and keeping the scoreboard ticking over.
 

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I think Boycott had it right about the need to be patient and leave the ball alone unless you had to play it. The Aussies were a bit too keen to try and play their shots yesterday morning, while the ball was moving around a little they should have been a bit more defensive minded.

It's a five day Test match, not a 20 over slog fest.
 

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I agree, the first morning with the ball moving a bit is just about the last place you should have a T20 mindset!

Australia have survived the first over in their second innings.
 

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Early declaration by Cook, couldn't see him doing that if we were only 5 or 6 wickets down.
 

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Good decision in my view. Give the Aussies a couple of overs before the lunch break. the few extra runs that Finn and Broad may have made are worth sacrificing in the circumstances.
 

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Well we only have to bat out three and a half days to save the match. Piece of cake.

It'll be done by 4pm with yet more T20 slogging
 

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With Australia 100-0, anyone getting worried? :lol:

Ok, so perhaps not now...
 
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With Australia 100-0, anyone getting worried? :lol:

Ok, so perhaps not now...

If anyone was worried they should of waited. Our batting order is more than happy to hand out the wickets.
Our batting line up is made of chalk.

It looks like Clarke will be the first victim of our loss. Apprantly selectors have told him he has no place in the side.

Well done England. My hat of to you.

Ladies and Gentlemen if you would kindly take your seats the Cricket Australia will be commencing the bloodbath shortly.
 
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I feel a bit sorry for Clarke. He can't be responsible for every filing in the Aussie team. On the other hand, if the selectors have decided that he doesn't deserve a place in the side due to his current form, that's different.
 

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Sir Les Patterson, Kylie Minogue, Ned Kelly your boys took one hell of a beating !

Now where's DownSouth whose silly statements before this series have been shown to be nothing more than the usual Australian arrogance ?

Will he eat humble pie ?
 

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I feel a bit sorry for Clarke. He can't be responsible for every filing in the Aussie team. On the other hand, if the selectors have decided that he doesn't deserve a place in the side due to his current form, that's different.

It's more his form that has got him.
He has announced he's retiring so I guess he knew it's all over. Has had a great career. That 329 against India was something special:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XAEpLZvQLM
 

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Ricky Ponting is saying that no fewer than eight of the current side may never play test cricket again, which seems a bit extreme to me. Clarke and Rogers we know about, to which can surely be added Voges, Watson and Haddin, but beyond that? Shaun Marsh with 8 ducks in 28 test innings, maybe.

I hope England test some new players out at the Oval viz Hales, Footitt and Rashid, the latter hitting a century today in a low-scoring match. Anderson shouldn't be risked!
 

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Rubbish selection for the 5th Test by England, Anderson replaces Footitt in the 14 man squad while Lyth keeps his place
 

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Team should be the same, with Anderson continuing to rest. No experiments with fringe players and grind Australia's faces in the dirt for a 4-1 triumph.
 

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Team should be the same, with Anderson continuing to rest. No experiments with fringe players and grind Australia's faces in the dirt for a 4-1 triumph.

Viewed player by player, only Root of the batsmen can be said to have had an excellent series, and most of them only moderate to good. It's our bowlers that have made all the difference, with Anderson, Broad and Finn outstanding and Stokes v.g. overall. I do hope England don't come a huge cropper back in London.
 

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Such a shame we can't call the test against Australia at the Oval off and have a third, deciding, test against NZ instead, and then we could see just how good the English team is.
 

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Same team as Trent Bridge for me. I would rather make sure that Anderson is fully fit rather than rush him back to the front-line.
 

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I'd like to see Rashid given a go. Either instead of or as well as Moeen Ali. There will be times in the winter we need two spinners, so unless it's another green seamer I'd play two spinners - but I can see them going unchanged.

Definitely wouldn't risk Anderson.
 

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