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[Xenophon PCDGS]

Just been anniouced on the radio.....England 208-5

 

[Oswyntail]

Just been anniouced on the radio.....England 208-5

And you've been and gone and jinxed it. 219/6

 

[jb]

Aussies will try and big up "Broadygate" no doubt, but just a couple of pre-emptive points:

1. I think it impossible whatever happens for the decision to make a bigger material difference to the likely outcome of the game than the missed stumping. We can start talking when Bell and Broad have added 160 more.

2. Even then, it was nowhere near as egregious a decision as the missed stumping.

 

[andrew bell]

Aussies will try and big up "Broadygate" no doubt, but just a couple of pre-emptive points:

1. I think it impossible whatever happens for the decision to make a bigger material difference to the likely outcome of the game than the missed stumping. We can start talking when Bell and Broad have added 160 more.

2. Even then, it was nowhere near as egregious a decision as the missed stumping.

Two wrong decisions don't make a right. Dar had a shocker with that decision today but he must of thought it only hit Haddin's glove and pad and not Broad's bat.

End of day scorecard England 326-6 with Ian Bell on 95*. It means England are 261 runs ahead with 6 sessions remaining (or 178-180 overs, depending when the innings has finished)

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

And you've been and gone and jinxed it. 219/6

I though the "jinxed" scores were 111, 222, 333, etc....or they were, when I was young enough to wield my trusty willow..

 

[Ferret]

mistakes will happen no matter what and, as Ferret said above, what goes around tends to come around with these things.

You said? Talk about prophetic words. Broad probably should've walked off, but I can imagine the sense of injustice when England were on the receiving end of two awful decisions yesterday weighed a little too heavily on his mind.

What a position England find themselves in though now - wonderful innings from Bell. Have England got enough runs?

 

[Buttsy]

You said? Talk about prophetic words. Broad probably should've walked off, but I can imagine the sense of injustice when England were on the receiving end of two awful decisions yesterday weighed a little too heavily on his mind.

Few Aussies have walked over the years (Gilchrist was a notable exception), they've waited for the umpire's decision and Broad was within his rights to here. Channel 5's Damien Martyn (had a least 1 shocking decision in '05) agreed with Broad - the umpire is there to make the decision and you're entitled to wait for that.

I expect now throughout the series that no-one will walk unless it's very obvious that they've creamed the cover off it.

Not a good match for the umpires...

 

[Ferret]

I quite agree Buttsy. How many times have we seen Aussies nick off and not walk? Not to say that it's right, but again - what goes around comes around.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

A lead of 261 with four wickets in hand is a strong position for any team to take into the fourth day of a Test Match.

Watson's bowling figues of 15 overs - 11 maidens for only 11 runs were quite impressive in terms of what went on in day three.

 

[jb]

I don't buy the "should have walked" line. Unless absolutely everyone else does it, you can't criticise anyone for not doing it. You CAN logically praise those that do walk, and suggest that this is what you would like to see, but criticising those who don't is a logical house of cards.

 

[CallySleeper]

Two other points re: DRS - I was disappointed Root didn't review his dismissal as it was clearly not out (but maybe Erasmus wouldn't have overturned it?!) But its done now. Also, I heard that Clarke wasn't too keen to use DRS but even if that isn't the case you can't believe how the Aussies appear to have wasted their 2 reviews this innings!

Also, predictive text on my phone wants to change 'Aussies' to 'Sissies'.

 

[Cab2Cab]

I think Broad would of walked if the game at that stage was more in England's favour but at the time we still had not got enough runs and the partnership was going well.

It is always interesting to put the shoe on the other foot and from day 2 the wrong's have righted themselves.

Anyway perhaps the Aussies will send David Warner to see Broady for a word or two......

From memory i always recall Alan Lamb would always walk if he nicked the ball and i'm sure from a interview i saw years ago he stated this for the game to be played fair and honest.

England have nothing to worry about, look at some test teams, everytime the ball passes the bat and into the the keepers gloves they appeal everytime.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Once again, there was no wag in the England batting tail as 356-6 soon became 375 all out.

 

[CallySleeper]

Aussies 111-2 at tea day 4... What do we think viewers?

 

[Whistler40145]

Can't believe that Swann is as yet wicket less, but Root has managed to uproot Ed Cowan (pardon the pun)!

 

[Whistler40145]

Well done England, hopefully we can now win from here, but Cricket is a strange game!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Australia now 164-6 in their second innings.....but Agar is still to come in.

A grandstand finale to this match ?

 

[Oswyntail]

Right from the off, this has been a proper test match, with everyone working hard for just rewards. Still time for a few twists yet!

 

[Johnuk123]

Trent Bridge is sold out Sunday, I wonder if this had any bearing on England not playing on tonight to try and finish.

I still think it could go either way, not nailed on by any means.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I was amused by the comment made late last night in a Radio 4 programme...

Agar has arrived at the batting crease,,,be afraid, be very afraid"...

As I understand it, this was a line in the 1986 version of the horror film "The Fly"

 

[ainsworth74]

England up and running this morning. Australia just lost Agar to a cracking delivery from Anderson leaving them at 207-7 still 104 shy of the win with England needing just three more wickets. Still scope for a replay of Edgbaston 2005 here today

 

[DarloRich]

Trent Bridge is sold out Sunday, I wonder if this had any bearing on England not playing on tonight to try and finish.

I still think it could go either way, not nailed on by any means.

You are not allowed arbitrarily to extend play anymore other than by the extra half hour IF a positive result is likely.

The rule is something like:

If either captain thinks that the game could be completed on the fourth or earlier day, within half an hour's additional play beyond the scheduled end of play, requests the additional time, and the umpires agree, play may continue for an additional half hour on that day.

It is up to the umpires to decide . The general rule of thumb is 7/8 down you have a chance of the extra half hour.

 

[ainsworth74]

And now they're eight down. Haddin and Siddle at the crease with 100 more needed.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Nine down now....all three wickets today have been...c Cook b Anderson

 

[ainsworth74]

Terrible over from Finn just now plundering 15 from it.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Now 274-9....37 needed to win by Australia

Haddin 59no, Pattinson 14no

 

[ainsworth74]

Squeaky bum time methinks, Haddin going great guns.

 

[Searle]

281-9, 30 more needed and Anderson has gone off injured! So close

 

[ainsworth74]

It just needs one good ball from England...

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It wouldn't be right if the Test didn't end in controversy. But it has and England have won thanks to Erasmus deciding that there was an edge behind but personally, whilst I'm not complaining, I'm not convinced there was enough there to overrule the on-field umpire.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

It just needs one good ball from England...

....or Finn to hold onto a catch that he had both hands on........However, Jimmy Anderson finished with five wickets in both the innings in such a very close call of a Test Match that England won by 14 runs in the end.

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A quite amazing statistic is that Australia put on 163 for the tenth wicket in their first innings and 65 for the tenth wicket in their second innings