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Class 373 Eurostar withdrawals

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I get the impression not all the Velaros are in yet. Last I noticed 374025 - 374034 were not about (undelivered ?). Also two earlier 374s (374013 & 374014) are hanging around in Holland apparently. So I guess Eurostar have yet to get use of six pairs out of seventeen. With only eleven pairs of 374s in use (from my observations) that leads me to believe Eurostar will not be using 374s on Bruxelles services yet.
 
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GW43125 said:
Feb '18 is not "now", hence for now that is the large issue. Don't most of the Bruxelles ones stop at AFK?
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No. I'm on Brussels trains regularly and can't remember the last time I stopped there. It was years ago.
 
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The Planner said:
The containers have always been there, they havent been moved for this purpose.
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The containers have only been there for a few years, not sure how long, maybe about 5 years?
Before the containers were placed around the yard there was a good view of the yard from passing trains.
 
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158747 said:
The containers have only been there for a few years, not sure how long, maybe about 5 years?
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Still, that's long enough to make it unlikely that they were put in place specifically to hide the 373s.
 
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On my train last night talking to fellow passengers around me it was a unanimous verdict that the new Eurostars / refurbed e300s are "horrible"and "really uncomfortable". One guy's opinion was he could just about put up with it for 2 hours but any longer and he would fly. Thankfully we were sitting in an old one, but if the number of times the suspension hit the end stops was anything to go by, they've given up maintenance on it too.
 
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najaB said:
Still, that's long enough to make it unlikely that they were put in place specifically to hide the 373s.
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The site may have been intentionally chosen for its already-shielded position, however.
 
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158747 said:
The containers have only been there for a few years, not sure how long, maybe about 5 years?
Before the containers were placed around the yard there was a good view of the yard from passing trains.
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At least 8 years, they were there when i used to travel between meadowhall and swinton regularly.
 
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The Planner said:
The containers have always been there, they havent been moved for this purpose.
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Just seen this. Thanks for the info.

Knowing the increase in Health & Safety focus over past few years I suspect this might have been a reason too, i.e. chopping up trains with various heavy machinery next to a live railway is probably no longer allowed without a "barrier"?!
 
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I seem to remember reading (before the scrapping started) that Booths would also be involved with processing 373s. Any ideas on whether this will now happen?
 
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33Hz said:
On my train last night talking to fellow passengers around me it was a unanimous verdict that the new Eurostars / refurbed e300s are "horrible"and "really uncomfortable". One guy's opinion was he could just about put up with it for 2 hours but any longer and he would fly. Thankfully we were sitting in an old one, but if the number of times the suspension hit the end stops was anything to go by, they've given up maintenance on it too.
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I'm on an unidentified refurb 373 at the moment. Superficially they've done an amazing job - it looks like a new train - but clearly they haven't used the highest quality materials, as the fake leather coating on my arm rest is already peeling off. I find the seats pretty comfortable, though I liked the original ones too.

The ride quality on this one is excellent. Are they doing anything mechanical to the sets they're refurbishing and keeping or am I just lucky?
 
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The power cars are being coupled nose to nose out of the way towards the bottom (visible) end of the yard, while EMR busy themselves ripping apart the coaching sets out of sight behind the containers, though you might see the resident shunter trundling a coaching set around if you're passing at the right time.

There are scrap trains coming out of Kingsbury now with visible bits of Eurostar heaped up in them.
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Do you have any photos of these trains?
 
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Are we really so bothered to know what a Class 373 looks like in scrap parts? Use your imagination!!! :roll:
 
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Such a waste. I can remember when they were new coming through Ashford.
 
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yorksrob said:
Such a waste. I can remember when they were new coming through Ashford.
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I remember as a young boy standing on the platform at Waterloo Int'l watching what was then ground-breaking technology all moving around me before heading off to Disneyland... How I wish I could go back. *replaces spectacles with clear ones*
 
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GW43125 said:
I remember as a young boy standing on the platform at Waterloo Int'l watching what was then ground-breaking technology all moving around me before heading off to Disneyland... How I wish I could go back. *replaces spectacles with clear ones*
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Although a callow youth at the time, I agree with the sentiment.
 
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ChilternTurbo said:
The scrapping of that power car looks quite neat (rather than being ripped apart by a mechanical grab) which makes me wonder if the scrapping contract has also involved some component recovery?
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It could be to obtain spares for the 373s that will remain
 
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