Class 319's into storage/withdrawals tracker

158757 · 21 Mar 2022

Apologies to dig up an older thread but does anyone know which 319s are still in service with LNR and diagrams they currently operate please?

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Silverlinky · 21 Mar 2022

There are still a number of 319's official in service however most are stood down. Today the only circuit running was the 12 car set off Northampton EMD, which was formed today of 319214/219/012
The other two circuits are currently cancelled or replaced by 350's if they run.

We have 9 units currently available for service and there is a requirement for three (as above) each day.

Some 319's are in warm store at Bletchley C/S, some at Camden C/S and others at Kings Heath.

158757 · 21 Mar 2022

Thank you for the information. What is the diagram for the remaining circuit please?

TT-ONR-NRN · 21 Mar 2022

Silverlinky said:
There are still a number of 319's official in service however most are stood down. Today the only circuit running was the 12 car set off Northampton EMD, which was formed today of 319214/219/012
The other two circuits are currently cancelled or replaced by 350's if they run.

We have 9 units currently available for service and there is a requirement for three (as above) each day.

Some 319's are in warm store at Bletchley C/S, some at Camden C/S and others at Kings Heath.

Which are stood down please?

Silverlinky · 21 Mar 2022

158757 said:
Thank you for the information. What is the diagram for the remaining circuit please?

Currently....
5N10 06.43 Kings Heath-Northampton
2N10 06:50 Northampton - London Euston
2T13 08:31 London Euston - Tring
2T14 09:25 Tring- London Euston
5C20 10:52 London Euston - Camden C/S

5J95 16:31 Camden C/S - London Euston
2J95 17:09 London Euston - Watford Junction
2J96 17:43 Watford Junction - London Euston
2K33 18:24 London Euston - Milton Keynes Central
5N33 19:39 Milton Keynes Central - Northampton Kings Heath

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TT-ONR-NRN said:
Which are stood down please?

Will need to confirm, but 460, 220 and 217 seem to be three of them.

50002Superb · 21 Mar 2022

Silverlinky said:
Currently....
5N10 06.43 Kings Heath-Northampton
2N10 06:50 Northampton - London Euston
2T13 08:31 London Euston - Tring
2T14 09:25 Tring- London Euston
5C20 10:52 London Euston - Camden C/S

5J95 16:31 Camden C/S - London Euston
2J95 17:09 London Euston - Watford Junction
2J96 17:43 Watford Junction - London Euston
2K33 18:24 London Euston - Milton Keynes Central
5N33 19:39 Milton Keynes Central - Northampton Kings Heath

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Will need to confirm, but 460, 220 and 217 seem to be three of them.

Do you know where 217 is at please?

Platform 2 · 21 Mar 2022

I'm looking for 319005. Can anyone advise, please?

158757 · 21 Mar 2022

Platform 2 said:
I'm looking for 319005. Can anyone advise, please?

It's in Camden CS, visible from passing trains heading out of London, or was when I passed tonight. Thanks @Silverlinky , I managed to hazard a rough guess based on what was pathed at 100mph on realtime trains, so managed to bag 219 which was the last on the LNR ones I needed tonight on 2K33, it was along with 012 and 214 as you correctly mentioned.

Platform 2 · 22 Mar 2022

158757 said:
It's in Camden CS, visible from passing trains heading out of London, or was when I passed tonight. Thanks @Silverlinky , I managed to hazard a rough guess based on what was pathed at 100mph on realtime trains, so managed to bag 219 which was the last on the LNR ones I needed tonight on 2K33, it was along with 012 and 214 as you correctly mentioned.

Thanks, 158757

Bletchleyite · 22 Mar 2022

Silverlinky said:
There are still a number of 319's official in service however most are stood down. Today the only circuit running was the 12 car set off Northampton EMD, which was formed today of 319214/219/012
The other two circuits are currently cancelled or replaced by 350's if they run.

Does this mean there are planned cancellations at present? Do you know which they are?

Solent&Wessex · 22 Mar 2022

Silverlinky said:
Currently....
5N10 06.43 Kings Heath-Northampton
2N10 06:50 Northampton - London Euston
2T13 08:31 London Euston - Tring
2T14 09:25 Tring- London Euston
5C20 10:52 London Euston - Camden C/S

5J95 16:31 Camden C/S - London Euston
2J95 17:09 London Euston - Watford Junction
2J96 17:43 Watford Junction - London Euston
2K33 18:24 London Euston - Milton Keynes Central
5N33 19:39 Milton Keynes Central - Northampton Kings Heath

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Will need to confirm, but 460, 220 and 217 seem to be three of them.

Is this diagram Mon to Fri only, or does it also run Saturdays?

Silverlinky · 22 Mar 2022

As if by magic 319013 and 319457 left Bletchley and LNR today.

Bletchleyite said:
Does this mean there are planned cancellations at present? Do you know which they are?

Planned cancellations to the timetable mean that most of the Watford shuttles have been removed, therefore most of the 319 booked workings have gone too.

Solent&Wessex said:
Is this diagram Mon to Fri only, or does it also run Saturdays?

M-F only

Bletchleyite · 22 Mar 2022

Thanks. Going to London on Thursday and didn't want to show up to find an unknowing cancellation.

I might well aim for that diagram for a last bit of 319 action.

TT-ONR-NRN · 22 Mar 2022

I’m assuming there are no plans to use the LNR ones after May?

Jacob Porrett · 22 Mar 2022

Will the LNWR 319s be scrapped eventually? Don't see a new home for them to be honest.

JonathanH · 22 Mar 2022

Jacob Porrett said:
Will the LNWR 319s be scrapped eventually? Don't see a new home for them to be honest.

All trains get scrapped eventually. Spares (ie cannibalisation) for the 769 fleet might be the first priority though.

Jacob Porrett · 22 Mar 2022

JonathanH said:
All trains get scrapped eventually. Spares (ie cannibalisation) for the 769 fleet might be the first priority though.

Yeah that's right. Will some go for 769 conversion for TFW/Northern/GWR?

JonathanH · 22 Mar 2022

Jacob Porrett said:
Yeah that's right. Will some go for 769 conversion for TFW/Northern/GWR?

No, we can be very confident that no further 769 conversions will happen. The production line is now closed.

swt_passenger · 22 Mar 2022

JonathanH said:
No, we can be very confident that no further 769 conversions will happen. The production line is now closed.

Parcels. The usual routine is you get some vinyls stuck on, get some PR in a tame rail mag, do a trial run and then scrap the trains anyway. o_O

MatthewRead · 22 Mar 2022

Silverlinky said:
As if by magic 319013 and 319457 left Bletchley and LNR today.

Planned cancellations to the timetable mean that most of the Watford shuttles have been removed, therefore most of the 319 booked workings have gone too.

M-F only

One of my friends caught an LNWR 319 on a Saturday working at Tring.

JonathanH · 22 Mar 2022

swt_passenger said:
Parcels. The usual routine is you get some vinyls stuck on, get some PR in a tame rail mag, do a trial run and then scrap the trains anyway.

Have any 769s (or 768s) been fitted with generating units at a location other than the now closed Loughborough facility?

DBS92042 · 22 Mar 2022

Silverlinky said:
As if by magic 319013 and 319457 left Bletchley and LNR today.

I believe 57310 took 319218 & 319013 rather than 319457

Silverlinky · 22 Mar 2022

DBS92042 said:
I believe 57310 took 319218 & 319013 rather than 319457

Fair enough....there is apparently another move planned for tomorrow......

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TT-ONR-NRN said:
I’m assuming there are no plans to use the LNR ones after May?

No, there is booked working for them as 8 car sets in the May timetable.....three 8 car circuits per day utilising six of nine remaining units.

TT-ONR-NRN · 22 Mar 2022

It would appear that 005/012/214-216/219/429/433/441 are the remaining nine in service then?

DBS92042 · 22 Mar 2022

TT-ONR-NRN said:
It would appear that 005/012/214-216/219/429/433/441 are the remaining nine in service then?

319441 went off lease last year so 319460 is presumably the other still with LNWR

TT-ONR-NRN · 22 Mar 2022

DBS92042 said:
319441 went off lease last year so 319460 is presumably the other still with LNWR

Ah, I thought @Silverlinky had listed this one as stood down.

warwickshire · 23 Mar 2022

DBS92042 said:
319441 went off lease last year so 319460 is presumably the other still with LNWR

319441 is at castle donnington. 319460 is still in service as far as I know with lnwr at bletchley depot. However 319218 and 319013 is now in storage at Burton wetmore sidings.

47444 · 23 Mar 2022

DBS92042 said:
I believe 57310 took 319218 & 319013 rather than 319457

Is it known where they went?

warwickshire · 23 Mar 2022

47444 said:
Is it known where they went?

Burton on Trent wetmore sidings.
Just after Burton on Trent train station.
What for I don't know myself. Maybe storage??

47444 · 23 Mar 2022

warwickshire said:
Burton on Trent wetmore sidings.
Just after Burton on Trent train station.
What for I don't know myself. Maybe storage??

Thank you

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