Class 172 Production Progress

[Old Hill Bank]

More dirt means better sound proofing!

The 170s seem to do OK and it will keep peoples feet from freezing to the floor in the winter which is what happens with the 150s

 

[jon0844]

FCC seem to manage to keep the carpet clean on a 365, so I am sure it will be okay. Do the 172s have vinyl flooring in the vestibules though, or literally throughout? That might be a bit more of an issue.

 

[Old Hill Bank]

Turbostars tend to have a darker carpet in the doorways more akin to a doormat, this seems to keep most of the crap out of the seating areas.

 

[150001]

Oh come on, the 150s are lovely and warm in the Winter. As long as the windows aren't open! There is black carpet in the vestibules:
http://www.railwayherald.co.uk/imaging.centre/showimage.php?image=200100

So no dirt in the passenger area hopefully.

 

[Old Hill Bank]

So back to the main point of this thread, what's at TYS and what's still at Litchurch Lane and in what state of completion guys?

 

[Tomonthetrain]

172345 was out on the special "staff tasters" today. Sounds more akin to a class 375 than a 170

 

[12CSVT]

Does anyone know if the 0750 High Wycombe - Marylebone, 1809 Marylebone - Bicester North and 1925 Bicester North - Marylebone are still diagrammed for 172s ?

 

[The Planner]

172s going up to Bicester now ?? that's a new one.

 

[Simon Poole]

172345 was out on the special "staff tasters" today. Sounds more akin to a class 375 than a 170

Arrived on time at 1008 at Smethwick Galton Bridge, managed to catch up with it at Worcester Shrub Hill

 

[anthony263]

Does anyone know if the 0750 High Wycombe - Marylebone, 1809 Marylebone - Bicester North and 1925 Bicester North - Marylebone are still diagrammed for 172s ?

I think they are now working the Gerrards cross - London Marylebone stopper services now or when the new timetable comes into affect

 

[swt_passenger]

I think they are now working the Gerrards cross - London Marylebone stopper services now or when the new timetable comes into affect

As discussed a few weeks back, it seems they'll have to be used on a variety of different stopping services in the new timetable, because there are only a fairly limited number starting or terminating at Gerrards Cross.

There was definitely an earlier belief that the GX stoppers would run all day, but I think this was in a much earlier version of the timetable. (Had a search online, and the Chiltern 73rd Track Access application included 2 tph running only as far as Gerrards Cross. It's changed a lot since then...)

 

[222001]

Any idea which services the 172 will be running on on Monday 5th?

 

[Class172]

Arrived on time at 1008 at Smethwick Galton Bridge, managed to catch up with it at Worcester Shrub Hill

I managed to get it at Droitwich Spa at 15:40.

 

[150001]

Just found this picture of 172213! First time I've seen one of the 2 car units on its own!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LondonMidlandClass172.JPG

 

[Washy]

So back to the main point of this thread, what's at TYS and what's still at Litchurch Lane and in what state of completion guys?

Seen at Tyseley yesterday 31/08 lunchtime was
172211 213
172333 339 343 344

There was at least one other on depot.

 

[swt_passenger]

Any idea which services the 172 will be running on on Monday 5th?

By a process of deduction, probably on any service between Marylebone and High Wycombe or Gerrards Cross.

I think someone has previously pointed out that there will not be any specific diagrams timed for 172s so they will presumably turn up almost anywhere a 165 can on the south of the route, (but not on the Met). AIUI they are not currently cleared beyond Banbury.

 

[The Planner]

Nothing is timed as a 172, they sit in 165 timings for the moment until they have bedded in enough to know what they are cabable of.

 

[trains2064]

172342 seen on tyseley today.

172344 and 172213 on mileage runs today.

 

[swt_passenger]

Nothing is timed as a 172, they sit in 165 timings for the moment until they have bedded in enough to know what they are cabable of.

Can it now be considered that the half hourly service between Marylebone and Gerrards Cross (shown in the TAA I mentioned above) is no longer on the agenda?

Or might it reappear in future iterations of the timetable?

 

[The Planner]

It could appear later on, this one needs to sort itself out first. There will be a good few tweaks to this one I expect once it is established what works on paper is a bit iffy operationally.

 

[387star]

Will LM order any more 172s or is this not known yet?

 

[222001]

By a process of deduction, probably on any service between Marylebone and High Wycombe or Gerrards Cross.

I think someone has previously pointed out that there will not be any specific diagrams timed for 172s so they will presumably turn up almost anywhere a 165 can on the south of the route, (but not on the Met). AIUI they are not currently cleared beyond Banbury.

I meant the London Midland 172s.

Anybody have any idea which service(s) the London Midland 172 will be doing on Monday?

 

[anthony263]

I meant the London Midland 172s.

Anybody have any idea which service(s) the London Midland 172 will be doing on Monday?

Should be at least 2 out in service on monday on the Stourbridge Junction - Straford on avon route. This taken from WNXX

 

[150001]

So there'll be none on the Dorridge route. What cheek! I think one on each route would've been fair.

 

[swt_passenger]

I meant the London Midland 172s.

Anybody have any idea which service(s) the London Midland 172 will be doing on Monday?

Sorry about that, but we had veered away down south a bit at the time...

 

[sprinterguy]

So there'll be none on the Dorridge route. What cheek! I think one on each route would've been fair.

I am probably categorically wrong, but I thought that most, if not all, of the Snow Hill line diagrams involved running over both the Dorridge and Stratford lines at some point during their diagram, so I'm interested to see which workings the 172s will be put on to keep them off the Dorridge line initially if that proves to be the case.
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I meant the London Midland 172s.

Anybody have any idea which service(s) the London Midland 172 will be doing on Monday?

From the LM 150 re-allocations thread, there are now reported times for the first two 172 diagrams on Monday:

172's entry service on 5/09/11 with first working to go over 06.46 from Whitlocks End into Birmingham and 06.41 from Birmingham Snow Hill to Sratford upon Avon.

 

[trains2064]

The Two Class 172 diagrams for next week on the Snow Hill Lines are;

Birmingham Snow Hill Dep 06.41
Stratford Upon Avon Arr 07.36
Dep 07.42
Worcester Shrub Hill Arr 09.40
Dep 09.47
Whitlocks End Arr 11.07
Dep 11.19
Worcester Foregate St Arr 12.40
Dep 12.46
Whitlocks End Arr 14.07
Dep 14.19
Worcester Foregate Street Arr 15.40
Dep 16.07
Whitlocks End Arr17.37
Dep 17.42
Kidderminster Arr 18.45

Other diagram

Whitlocks End Dep 06.46
Stourbridge Junction Arr 07.39
Dep 07.55
Stratford Upon Avon Arr 09.21
Dep 09.27
Stourbridge Junction Arr 1049
Dep 10.55
Stratford Upon Avon Arr 12.21
Dep 12.27
Stourbridge Junction Arr 13.48
Dep 13.55
Stratford Upon Avon Arr 15.21
Dep 15.27
Stourbridge Junction Arr 16.48
Dep 16.55
Stratford Upon Avon Arr 18.20
Dep 18.25
Birmingham Snow Hill Arr 19.18
Dep 19.27
Stratford Upon Avon Arr 20.21
Dep 20.26
Stourbridge Junction Arr 21.50
Dep 21.55
Whitlocks End Arr 22.50
Dep 22.55
Birmingham Snow Hill Arr 23.17

These from Monday are perminant 172 diagrams with next 2 diagrams being added in a Fortnight I believe.

 

[150001]

Why on Earth the Stratford line!!!!! Why not the Dorridge line!!!! I am now very angry. So we can't have any 172s for another 2 weeks. What a stupid plan!

 

[oversteer]

Are Chiltern drivers allowed to do 100mph between the Sudburys/Northolt yet?

 

[Class172]

The Two Class 172 diagrams for next week on the Snow Hill Lines are;

Worcester Foregate Street Arr 15.40
Dep 16.07

These from Monday are perminant 172 diagrams with next 2 diagrams being added in a Fortnight I believe.

That's one of my trains home from school!!! Come on!