Catch them before they're gone

[Richard Scott]

What routes are they to be found on?

Just Borgo San Lorenzo now, think a few turns in morning and evening.

 

[BRX]

As far as I'm aware, those are the only diesel-hauled/propelled services remaining....apart from occasional heritage services - particularly on the spectacularly-scenic Sulmona-Carpinone line (The so-called "Trassiberiana Italiana").

There are still lots of electric loco-worked InterCity, Regionale and Regionale Veloce services around the country, but they are also rapidly being replaced by units.

Thank you.

Electric hauled is still of interest to me if combined with drop windows. I assume I'm more likely to find that on Regionale than Intercity.

I'm afraid that all the remaining Regionale stock has been refurbished and fitted with air-conditioning.....although some of the windows in the MDVC and MDVE stock can be opened by the the capo treno in the eventi of an air-con failure

Can confirm all the above to be accurate having spent a couple of weeks in Italy in September.

Sadly nearly all Regionale trains now modern low-floor type units. I did encounter some loco hauled ones running on the line between Perugia and Foligno, with an E464 loco on each end. Hopes for an openable window were briefly raised when I noticed there was one on the bike compartments intergrated into the "blank" end of those locos but these areas were locked off from the rest of the train.

Also travelled on a loco hauled intercity from Terontola to Venezia (train bound for Trieste I think).

It's worth looking out for the various mainline heritage ("Treno Storico") services - I was lucky and there was one on a convenient day for me; it ran from Milan to Lecco and back. Very easy to buy tickets (the train simply appeared in the Trenitalia journey planner app and I could buy a ticket like it was a normal train) and not at all expensive either.

 

[alistairlees]

Just Borgo San Lorenzo now, think a few turns in morning and evening.

Thank you

 

[D6130]

What routes are they to be found on?

Firenze SMN-Borgo San Lorenzo via Pontassieve - a very scenic route through the foothills of the Appenines. Three - sometimes four - peak trains per day.

EDIT: The three normally-diagrammed afternoon/evening departures from Firenze are the 15 55, 16 43 and 17 55....with the 14 19 and 19 55 sometimes included.

 

[alistairlees]

Firenze SMN-Borgo San Lorenzo via Pontassieve - a very scenic route through the foothills of the Appenines. Three - sometimes four - peak trains per day.

Thanks, just Mondays to Fridays, I assume?

 

[D6130]

Thanks, just Mondays to Fridays, I assume?

Saturdays too, IIRC, for some of the workings. Italian secondary school and college students attend on Saturday mornings during term time.

 

[DesDobramento]

It was in service this morning.

Any update please on the regular ‘monkey head’ am peak operation around Amersfoort which eluded me in Spring 2026???

 

[D1511]

904 was still doing the peak diagram to Ede-Wageningen in August, but one of our helpful Dutch contributors will be along to confirm in due course. (It's a lovely Valleilijn colour!)

 

[43094]

I think the peak diagram is 2x round trips Monday - Friday, Amersfoot Centraal - Barneveld-Zuid, in the morning only; as far as I know, it doesn't run to Ede-Wageningen.

It's run today on the normal diagram (a pictogram of the allocated traction type is shown on the NS app, on the day itself)

0655 & 0755 from Amersfoot
0724 & 0824 from Barneveld-Zuid

 

[Bemined]

It's planned in the morning only, but today it's still running at 16:50, probably because one of the other trains is broken. Btw, you should not trust the rolling stock indicated in the app, as it only shows the planned stock, not actual one.

 

[DanielB]

I think the peak diagram is 2x round trips Monday - Friday, Amersfoot Centraal - Barneveld-Zuid, in the morning only; as far as I know, it doesn't run to Ede-Wageningen.

Not scheduled, but it does occasionally happen. Early last month it was even running on a Sunday afternoon, but Keolis doesn't provide realtime rolling stock information as Bemined already mentioned. There is a webcam of Amersfoort Centraal however where you can check.

There was a defective train earlier this week, so likely that's why the Plan V is in use at the moment.

 

[DesDobramento]

All Amersfoort comments very helpful. I will add my forthcoming experience in a later report!

 

[Bemined]

Today it ran until 19:48 until finally being swapped out. Next week the Barneveld services will not run due to engineering works by the way so it the Plan V can have some time off now.

 

[D6130]

Apologies, I'm not able to reproduce the Facebook post which was forwarded to me by WhatsApp....but FFSI D445 1011 - in original green, brown and red livery - suffered severe cab damage this morning when it collided with the platform of an underslung bridge inspection unit near Roccararso while hauling the weekly Treno dei Parchi historic service from Sulmona. The two drivers and nearly 400 passengers were shocked, but uninjured. However the three men in the inspection unit cradle were seriously-injured and airlifted to hospital....one in a potentially life-threatening condition.

The passengers and crew were trapped on the train for several hours and the damage to the loco may be serious enough to end its career. Ironically this incident occurred on Italy's national day against accidents at work.

 

[Beebman]

Apologies, I'm not able to reproduce the Facebook post which was forwarded to me by WhatsApp....but FFSI D445 1011 - in original green, brown and red livery - suffered severe cab damage this morning when it collided with the platform of an underslung bridge inspection unit near Roccararso while hauling the weekly Treno dei Parchi historic service from Sulmona. The two drivers and nearly 400 passengers were shocked, but uninjured. However the three men in the inspection unit cradle were seriously-injured and airlifted to hospital....one in a potentially life-threatening condition.

The passengers and crew were trapped on the train for several hours and the damage to the loco may be serious enough to end its career. Ironically this incident occurred on Italy's national day against accidents at work.

I've found a video showing the aftermath of the incident on the YouTube channel of the 'Il Messaggero' newspaper:

AI translation into English of the Italian description of the video:

A serious workplace accident occurred this morning in the Palaghiaccio area of the municipality of Roccaraso. The Trans-Siberian Railway of Italy, a convoy of the historic Ferrovia dei Parchi train, for reasons yet to be determined, struck a work vehicle that was working with a crane on the bridge reconstruction. Three company workers, all foreigners, were injured in the collision, including a 56-year-old Senegalese man who suffered serious multiple trauma and was airlifted to the San Salvatore Hospital in L'Aquila. The prognosis is guarded, although not life-threatening. The other two, both in their 50s, were taken to the Castel di Sangro hospital with minor injuries. The train drivers and approximately four hundred tourists, still shaken by the incident, were unharmed. Medics from the Pescocostanzo emergency service and Carabinieri from the Alto Sangro branch responded to the scene to reconstruct the accident and determine any liability. The intervention of local health authority (ASL) inspectors is also necessary, as they are verifying compliance with workplace safety measures and the position of individual workers. Today's Trans-Siberian Railway of Italy route was Sulmona-Carovilli, in Molise.

 

[D6130]

I've found a video showing the aftermath of the incident on the YouTube channel of the 'Il Messaggero' newspaper:

AI translation into English of the Italian description of the video:

Thanks for that. The English translation would be funny if it weren't so pathetically-Google Translate.