Boarding as doors are closing

[43066]

A.though when a disabled passenger needs support boarding a train, saturation point or not, those delays rightly just have have to be absorbed.

That has nothing to do with what is being discussed. It certainly isn’t a reason to create more delays by holding doors open or waiting for late running passengers.

 

[Horizon22]

What's the problem, on a lightly loaded train? Doesn't it happen on the underground all the time?

Just because it's lightly loaded, doesn't mean a full check shouldn't be undertaken every time - that's how complacency sets in and mistakes get made.

 

[Bikeman78]

Just because it's lightly loaded, doesn't mean a full check shouldn't be undertaken every time - that's how complacency sets in and mistakes get made.

What has checking got to do with the the elapsed time between the doors opening and closing? I guess you don't use the Underground? On S stock, for example, it's quite normal for the wheels to be turning two seconds after the last door shuts!

 

[SCDR_WMR]

But once all doors, including the local door, are closed, who is going to see someone touching the train? Dispatch staff are very much a UK thing. It would be interesting to compare death/injury statistics at stations for NL versus UK.

At our TOC it's now mandatory to have your head out of the cab window when giving 2 on the buzzer to he driver. This is due to an incident at Galton Bridge where a passenger ran at and subsequently fell between the platform and train between doors closing and train departing.

Obviously if dispatching from the saloon you can't do that so it can't always happen, but it does give you the best view should you need to abort.

 

[Horizon22]

What has checking got to do with the the elapsed time between the doors opening and closing? I guess you don't use the Underground? On S stock, for example, it's quite normal for the wheels to be turning two seconds after the last door shuts!

Because you never know if someone is trying to get off who is older and taking timing getting to the doors, and to let passengers circulate.

Plus it hasn’t always been at quiet times - passengers can have odd behaviour and sometimes you have to wait and see if people are getting back on/off. I don’t see this happen often though - most of the time it’s a perfectly safe and efficient dispatch.

 

[Krokodil]

What has checking got to do with the the elapsed time between the doors opening and closing? I guess you don't use the Underground? On S stock, for example, it's quite normal for the wheels to be turning two seconds after the last door shuts!

On some of the deep tubes it seems quite common for the doors to begin opening before the wheels have quite stopped.

 

[Bikeman78]

On some of the deep tubes it seems quite common for the doors to begin opening before the wheels have quite stopped.

Yes the 1972 stock on the Bakerloo line does that. Possibly the 1973 stock on the Piccadilly as well? Occasionally I've been on 317s where the door release chime has started as the train stops!