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furnessvale

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I'd always assumed, based on no experience or evidence, that if a crew was doing a piling session and they knew they only had time to get one partly in before having to hand possession back it would be better to do that and return later to finish off, rather than waste that bit of time.

This doesn't contradict your suggestion.

Fully agree with this thought, but isn't there some evidence of several piles being part driven?
 

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I have added some further pictures of progress with piling and track renewal between Preston and Salwick here.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/147506051@N02/sets/72157679909475566/

This is just brilliant. With you doing this stretch and Dave and Paul doing other stuff, I may try and do something different. Originally I was also going to do Sidgreaves/Darkinson Lane - but I may do here instead - as I am home next weekend for about 3 days.

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.7625881,-2.7163948,19z

That way we get progress from the line diverging from the WCML to Sidgreaves. Sounds like a plan.

Team work - 'tis a beautiful thing.
 
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Significant progress on the Ordsall Chord bridge today. The arch has now been lifted close to the bridge deck all set for the big lift next Tuesday.
It's more difficult to get good photos now but I have added a few mobile phone shots to my Flickr album.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/147280282@N07/albums/with/72157678617758661
Hopefully Dave can also add them to the Combined Volume..

Since John posted this he's been and gone and done it by himself, so now we have six contributors linking no fewer than nine albums to the Combined Volume (CV).

In case you've missed posts about this before, to see the linked albums go into the CV, click on the very first image, and look down the "Comments" you will see that each contains a link, click on whichever takes your fancy and Robert should be your parent's sibling.

The CV can be found here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157661069863633

Images sent the traditional way, by email to me, remain as welcome as ever.

Thank you to Ian (three albums), Chris (two albums), Haggis, Ken, Railrover700 and John (one each) for their links and to all who send the traditional way.

Yo!!
 
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Significant progress on the Ordsall Chord bridge today. The arch has now been lifted close to the bridge deck all set for the big lift next Tuesday.
It's more difficult to get good photos now but I have added a few mobile phone shots to my Flickr album.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/147280282@N07/albums/with/72157678617758661
Hopefully Dave can also add them to the Combined Volume..

I'm committed to grandadding on Tues, hope others can go; should be seriously fab.
 

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Agreed, but in fact the bases stretch surprisingly more than 100yds.

More like 4 down, 96 to go.

Wrinkley has been busy.

1. He has sent a batch of photos he took in the Chew Moor area showing piling by the Wigan line SW of Lostock Junction. I've added them to his album here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157654034635234

and to the Combined Volume here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157661069863633

There is extended commentary associated with one shot.

2. He's spotted a bit of good news at Dean Clough. I had wondered why nowt had happened there and why a pile was still lying around since before Christmas. Wrinkley has looked more closely, please compare the two shots in this mini-album.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157680373831416

So, going back to the Wigan line, I reckon it's 7 down, 93 to go...

Thank you Wrinkley
 

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Great to see Salford Central looking like a proper station - and all the other progress too!

Still it looks very tight for phase 4 to be carrying regular electric services in less than 10 months.
 

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Great to see Salford Central looking like a proper station - and all the other progress too!

The entire universe surrounding Salford Central station is changing rapidly.
But the dingiest platforms in the UK soldier on, with not even a lick of paint on the crumbling platform edges.
 

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1 and 2 are being done up, 3,4,5 were supposed to be recommissioned (and local money given to them to do that) but now Network Rail want more money because they cocked up and installed an overhead mast where the platforms were supposed to be.
 

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Bill Morton has kindly sent two shots of new piles in Adlington.

I've added them to Bill's album here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157650900509369

and to the Combined Volume here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157661069863633

Thank you Bill

These shots reminded me to mention two different things:

1. On my Salford to Blackpool and back journey on Thursday I was struck by the number of new bases only feet away from ones installed in the BB era. Can anyone explain this?

2. At the presentation ten days ago (I asked if I could be sent the overheads, by the way) the Salford-Euxton Jct manager mentioned "May/June" for replacing the foot crossings with bridges. I attach the Bridgeoscope to remind people where they are.
 

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1. On my Salford to Blackpool and back journey on Thursday I was struck by the number of new bases only feet away from ones installed in the BB era. Can anyone explain this?

Aren't there some dodgy BB ones that need to be replaced? Or did you see too many for that to be the explanation?
 

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Aren't there some dodgy BB ones that need to be replaced? Or did you see too many for that to be the explanation?

I don't think any of the BB concrete ones are being "replaced" (ie taken out).
They are just sinking piles in new locations, some of which are very close to the old concrete ones.
You also might find a new pile with the old concrete one apparently being an anchor for it.
It won't be clear how it will all work until the steelwork goes up.
I can't work out if the concrete stuff is "wrong", or if it is, say, not strong enough for the steelwork planned for it.
It's also patchy, with plenty of concrete ones still evidently going to be used.
All those around Windsor Bridge South Jn are concrete. No sign of any piles there (yet).
 
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Aren't there some dodgy BB ones that need to be replaced? Or did you see too many for that to be the explanation?

It was the scale of it which unnerved me. I must stress, however, it was an impression whilst I was busy logging like mad, so I'll be very happy to be told it only amounts to neither nowt nor summat.
 

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Did the link to a map I included with one of the photos not work?

You are absolutely right about that Dave. I am sorry. In fact your links give a sense of scale far better. Exceptional. Anyway - I will leave my post I wont bother editing - it helps the lazy ones like me. :D
 

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Interesting to see signs of actual work on the Westhoughton line with bases appearing well beyond what would be required for the safety over-run at Lostock Junction. Many comments have been made about the timing of work for this line having been delayed and that therefore progress through Network Rail's GRIP process having been held back accordingly. Construction would imply the route now being at GRIP Stage 6 and effectively beyond the risk of cancellation. Any comments from anyone on the inside?
 

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Interesting to see signs of actual work on the Westhoughton line with bases appearing well beyond what would be required for the safety over-run at Lostock Junction. Many comments have been made about the timing of work for this line having been delayed and that therefore progress through Network Rail's GRIP process having been held back accordingly. Construction would imply the route now being at GRIP Stage 6 and effectively beyond the risk of cancellation. Any comments from anyone on the inside?

The bridge over the Wigan line at Lostock station has to be raised to give clearance as required by the new rules. This was confirmed at the IRSE meeting in Preston and Network Rail have already put the planning application in to Bolton Council. A start date for this would give some indication of the timing for the project.
 

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Chew Moor is (with a slightly modified vowel) good advice on how to avoid indigestion, and is not to be confused with Chew Magna near Bristol. (Or with Chewksbury. ;))

I very much doubt that work is starting on Lostock to Wigan, other than the overrun to prevent wrongly routed electric trains causing a dewirement. According to the Enhancements Delivery Update, it is supposed to complete GRIP 3 in March 2017, and there are no more milestones shown for it after that. Oxenholme to Windermere is the same.
 
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Indeed but what a potential wasted opportunity to start a continuous rolling program after Manchester to Blackpool via Preston using the same teams/equipment without loosing the skills base again
 

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Interesting to see signs of actual work on the Westhoughton line with bases appearing well beyond what would be required for the safety over-run at Lostock Junction. Many comments have been made about the timing of work for this line having been delayed and that therefore progress through Network Rail's GRIP process having been held back accordingly. Construction would imply the route now being at GRIP Stage 6 and effectively beyond the risk of cancellation. Any comments from anyone on the inside?

The rules for the length of the over-run are a bit excessive, anyway, but the long over-run towards Westhoughton is only to get the end of the wire onto a straight-ish bit of track ,so that the Phase 7 neutral section can be built there (later).

To my knowledge Phase 6 is just completing GRIP2 and Phase 7 design hasn't begun yet.
 

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