Back in the day...

[SW Rover]

Saturday 2nd September 1989
20135+20080 2D59 0815 Derby - Llandudno (to Crewe)
37430 1V08 0915 Liverpool LS - Cardiff Cen (Crewe to Church Stretton)
156 Church Stretton to Crewe
37038 1V11 1113 Liverpool LS - Cardiff Cen (Crewe to Hereford)
37430 1M17 1315 Cardiff Cen - Liverpool LS (Hereford to Shrewsbury)
47096 1A63 1531 Shrewsbury - Euston (to Wolverhampton)
90021 1A63 (Wolverhampton to Birmingham NS)

Thursday 2nd September 1993
47813 1E31 0638 Derby - York (to Doncaster)
91003 1S?? 0600 Kings Cross - Edinburgh W (from Doncaster)
37427 1H11 1125 Edinburgh W - Inverness
37427 1B36 1628 Inverness - Edinburgh W (to Aviemore)
37043 1H15 1535 Edinburgh W - Inverness (from Aviemore)

 

[Falcon1200]

Sunday 2nd September 1984
85017 2325 Glasgow C-Bristol TM (to Wolverhampton)

 

[D1511]

Wednesday 2nd September 1981

1P54 23.45 Euston - Barrow in Furness 86224 xe WN Euston - Preston
1A26 07.09 Carlisle - Euston 86259 xe WN Preston - Warrington BQ
1D35 09.42 Manchester V - Bangor 47438 xe CD Warrington BQ - Chester
1J66 09.12 Bangor - Manchester V 40136 xi SP Chester - Warrington BQ
1J30 11.12 Bangor - Manchester V 40029 xi LO Warrington BQ - Manchester V
1A59 15.12 Manchester P - Euston 86241 xe WN Manchester P - Crewe
1V09 16.02 Crewe - Cardiff C 33021 xe EH Crewe - Newport
1V32 16.32 Portsmouth H - Cardiff C 47283 xos BR Newport - Cardiff C
1Z80 ???? Return mystex - Swansea 47351 xos CD Cardiff - Swansea
1B82 21.25 Swansea - Bristol TM 37185 xb LE Swansea - Cardiff C
1B82 21.25 Swansea - Bristol TM 37192 xb LE Cardiff C - Bristol TM

 

[D1537]

Tuesday 2nd September 1986

Back to normality

47626 1O34 Coventry-Banbury
47477 1M88 Banbury-Manchester Picc
47501 1V81 Manchester Picc-Sandwell & Dudley
47423 1M14 Sandwell & Dudley-Liverpool
47529 1V99 Liverpool-Coventry (last run, withdrawn Feb 87, total mileage 1401)

 

[SW Rover]

Friday 3rd September 1993
37043 1B26 1015 Inverness - Edinburgh W (to Stirling)
158 1135 Aberdeen - Glasgow QS (from Stirling) this was booked to arrive QS 1413 and started to run late.
As we approached QS now (+10) 37413+37403 departed on 1Y13 1420 to Fort William!
A quick change of plan was needed.
158 1430 Glasgow QS - Edinburgh W
37043 1H15 1535 Edinburgh W - Inverness (to Stirling)
158 1435 Aberdeen - Glasgow QS (Stirling to Glasgow QS)
156 1822 Glasgow QS - Mallaig (to Fort William)

 

[Falcon1200]

Monday 3rd September 1984
31301 0530 Wolverhampton-Harwich PQ (to Birmingham NS)
85023 0550 Wolverhampton-Euston (from Birmingham NS)

 

[SW Rover]

Saturday 4th September 1993
37410 1Y12 0855 Fort William - Glasgow QS
37188 1H03 1333 Glasgow QS - Inverness (to Blair Atholl where 37188 was declared a failure)
37106+(37188) 1H03 1333 Glasgow QS - Inverness (from Blair Atholl)
37431 2H87 1838 Inverness - Kyle of Lochalsh

 

[D1537]

For some reason I had this written down as "Saturday 4th September" but have just noticed that the day after is "Sunday 4th September"!

Saturday 3rd September 1988
In this timetable there was a SO diagram that was not only a different day out but had some very rare track for a 47 in it as well. Earlier in the year 47316 had done the diagram but there were not-to-be-missed other large 47s out as well (see post #6883). However today we had a 47/3 on the diagram and not a lot else out, so it was time to go for it ...

86250 1H04 Rugby-Nuneaton
47353 1O06 Nuneaton-Poole (via Reading W Curve)

Time for a magical mystery tour of SW London!

47353 1M93 Poole-Mitre Bridge Junction (via Basingstoke, Woking, Byfleet Jc, Chertsey, Staines, Putney, Clapham Junction North Side, Ludgate Jc, Latchmere SW Jc and Kensington Olympia)

All of Byfleet Junction to Latchmere SW Junction was new for a 47 for me.

86213 1M93 Mitre Bridge Junction-Rugby

 

[xotGD]

Saturday 4th September 1976

OK, so this is a bit tenuous. We went on a family holiday to Cornwall. I definitely missed the start of school, so I think this is the day we traveled down. We changed trains at New St, so I am guessing we took the Newcastle - Poole to there. Going forward, perhaps we took 1V82, the 10:24 Man Pic - Penzance. If we did, then I would be able to record the following:

1054 "Western Governor" Plymouth - St Erth

Perhaps!

 

[SW Rover]

Sunday 5th September 1993
37431+(37170) 2H82 1030 Kyle of Lochalsh - Inverness (to Achnasheen)
37402 2H83 1115 Inverness - Kyle of Lochalsh (from Achnasheen)
37402 2H84 1510 Kyle of Lochalsh - Inverness
37510+37505 1M26 2020 Inverness - Euston (to Edinburgh W) 'The Royal Highlander'
87002 1M26 (Edinburgh W to Crewe)

 

[SW Rover]

Saturday 6th September 1986
33031 2V58 0658 Portsmouth H - Cardiff C (Bath Spa to Bristol TM)
33025 1V38 0810 Portsmouth H - Cardiff C (from Bristol TM)
33027 1O41 1210 Cardiff C - Portsmouth H (to Newport)
33031 1V46 0830 Brighton - Cardiff C (from Newport)
33025 1O42 1305 Cardiff C - Portsmouth H (to Newport)
Away game at Somerton Park, Newport County 2 v Swindon Town 2
33040 1O48 1810 Cardiff C - Portsmouth H (Newport to Bristol TM)
33025 1O48 1810 Cardiff C - Portsmouth H (Bristol TM to Bath Spa)

Wednesday 6th September 1989
37428 1M06 0507 Cardiff C - Liverpool LS (from Crewe)
37428 1V08 0915 Liverpool LS - Cardiff C (to Ludlow)
156 (Ludlow to Shrewsbury)
37429 1V11 1113 Liverpool LS - Cardiff C (Shrewsbury to Hereford)
37428 1M17 1315 Cardiff C - Liverpool LS (Hereford to Crewe)
37408 1M17 (from Crewe (+10) loco change)
37408 1V17 1715 Liverpool LS - Cardiff C (to Crewe)
47971 2P88 1738 Crewe - Derby ((+50) to Stoke)
31425 2P82 1727 Llandudno - Derby (Stoke to Derby)

 

[SW Rover]

Friday 6th September 1991

This was the last year I was eligible for a Young Persons railcard so I decided to get my only 7 day All Line Rover before having to pay full fare.
Back then it cost £132 with a railcard. Today it would cost £416.25 with a railcard and there are more restrictions on travel now.

Day 1
47976 1F04 0601 Bedford - Derby (from Leicester)
47971 2D64 0811 Derby - Llandudno (to Crewe)
86255 1S59 0735 Euston - Inverness (Crewe to Preston) 'The Clansman'
86401 1O12 0815 Glasgow Cen - Poole (Preston to Wigan NW) 'The Wessex Scot'
I then took a 142 to Liverpool and a 508 to Southport with the aim of taking the 1440 Southport to Manchester Vic.
The Loco Hauled Travel and 1HXX books were no longer being produced so I was relying on loco hauled diagrams from Rail magazine!
The 1440 was not loco hauled so off to Manchester on a 150 for the evening loco hauled to Blackpool.
37415 1N99 1714 Manchester Vic - Blackpool North
37415 2F38 1900 Blackpool North - Liverpool LS (to Edge Hill)
304 to Crewe for a 150 to Shrewsbury via Chester & Wrexham.

Saturday 7th September 1991

Day 2 - An early morning run on the Cambrian before heading to Scotland via London and the ECML.
37418 1J11 0450 Shrewsbury - Machynlleth
37418 2J19 0816 Machynlleth - Aberystwyth
37418 2G68 0925 Aberystwyth - Wolverhampton
86226 1A?? 1255 Wolverhampton - Euston
91009 1S?? 1700 Kings Cross - Edinburgh W
158 2230 Edinburgh W - Glasgow Queen St
158 2350 Glasgow Queen St - Inverness
It was hard to sleep on the 158 and how I longed for the loco hauled comfort of previous years!

 

[D1537]

Sunday 7th September 1986

47472 1M34 Rugby-B'ham NS (via Coventry)
47560 1M34 B'ham NS-Manchester Picc (via Bescot, Stoke and Crewe)

So, if I remember correctly, the Sheffield-Manchester and return part of the Harwich was meant to be a no-heat 47, hence us going to Manchester. However, for some bizarre reason (or more likely it was fixed), Sheffield decided 45062 would be a far better idea, which it wasn't, as it failed half way across the Pennines and was rescued by a 31. Meanwhile, LMR control decided that they would now use the 47/4 for the return Harwich that was supposed to do 1V13 to Swansea. So they needed to find something for 1V13, and naturally they had a spare Thornaby 47/3 lying about, as you do...

47302 1V13 Manchester Picc-Crewe
47462 1O46 Crewe-Coventry

 

[SW Rover]

Sunday 8th September 1991
Day 3
37413 2H83 1115 Inverness - Kyle of Lochalsh (to Garve)
37423 2H82 1030 Kyle of Lochalsh - Inverness (from Garve)
Bus - Inverness to Fort William
37406+37404 1M15 1950 Fort William - Euston (to Arrochar & Tarbet) where 406 was removed.
37404 1M15 (Arrochar & Tarbet to Edinburgh W)
87007 1M15 (Edinburgh W to Euston)

Monday 9th September 1991
Day 4 - An unexpected Crompton
47712 1V09 0840 Waterloo - Exeter St Davids (to Basingstoke)
47703 1O32 0750 Yeovil Junction - Waterloo (from Basingstoke)
47705 1V11 1100 Waterloo - Exeter St Davids (to Woking)
At Woking 47705 was removed and replaced with 33065.
33065 1V11 1100 Waterloo - Exeter St Davids (from Woking)
47569 1A70 1236 Penzance - Paddington (from Exeter St Davids)
73201 1D72 1900 Victoria - Gatwick Airport
73210 1D77 1935 Gatwick Airport - Victoria
90025 1S07 2105 Euston - Fort William (to Edinburgh W)

 

[Kirkoswald]

Friday 4th August 1978

During the summer months if the Doncaster Works Test Train was unavailable then the 0848 Doncaster-Edinburgh service would be used to test ex-works locos. Today 31226 was on test accompanied by 40197. The use of LMR based 47/4s on Kings Cross services was probably down to low availability of ER locos.

47458 York-Selby (0800 York-Kings Cross)
46027 Selby-York (0812 Doncaster-York)
31226+40197 York-Darlington (0848 Doncaster-Edinburgh)
47181 Darlington-York (1001 Newcastle-Liverpool LS)
47110 York-Darlington (1010 Liverpool LS-Newcastle)
43068+43086 Darlington-York (1100 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)
55012 York-Selby (1413 York-Kings Cross)
47489 Selby-York (1225 Kings Cross-York)
47233 York-Sheffield (1335 Newcastle-Swansea)
47532 Sheffield-York (1608 Birmingham NS-York)
45068 York-Darlington (1135 Poole-Newcastle)
47439 Darlington-York (1700 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)

Saturday 4th August 1979

46040 York-Leeds (1217 Newcastle-Liverpool LS)
45025 Leeds-Sheffield (1439 Leeds-Plymouth)
47120 Sheffield-Chesterfield (1338 Newcastle-Swansea)
47341 Chesterfield-Sheffield (1257 Weston SM-Leeds)
45126 Sheffield-Chesterfield (1150 Glasgow C-Nottingham)
47473 Chesterfield-Leeds (1026 Penzance-Bradford Exchange)
31224 Leeds-New Pudsey (1026 Penzance-Bradford Exchange)
E50136+50624+51548+51549 New Pudsey-Leeds (2000 Bradford Exchange-Leeds)
46040 Leeds-York (1805 Liverpool LS-York)

Monday 4th August 1980

ALR Day 2 I was bound for Scotland and I was rewarded with two new 40s, a good day for me.

85024 Stafford-Crewe (2130 Bristol TM-Glasgow C)
81007 Crewe-Mossend Yard (2235 Euston-Perth)
47432 Mossend Yard-Stirling (2235 Euston-Perth)
37027 Stirling-Dunblane (0640 Glasgow QS-Dundee)
26019 Dunblane-Stirling (0705 Perth-Edinburgh)
27002 Stirling-Larbert (0649 Dundee-Glasgow QS)
40158 Larbert-Perth (0844 Glasgow QS-Dundee)
40117 Perth-Stirling (0925 Aberdeen-Birmingham NS)
40150 Stirling-Dundee (1135 Glasgow QS-Aberdeen)
26015 Dundee-Perth (1339 Dundee-Glasgow QS)
40103 Perth-Dundee (1335 Glasgow QS-Aberdeen)
40184 Dundee-Glasgow QS (1340 Aberdeen-Glasgow QS)
25064 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh via Falkirk G (1710 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh)
27105 Glasgow QS-Cowlairs Banking Loco (1710 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh)
47703 Edinburgh-Falkirk G (1915 Edinburgh-Glasgow QS)
Sc51464+51528 Falkirk G-Dunblane (1959 Falkirk G-Dunblane)
27034 Dunblane-Stirling (1939 Dundee-Glasgow QS)
26041+26044 Stirling-Glasgow QS (1758 Inverness-Glasgow QS)
Sc50268+51240 Glasgow QS-Larbert (2244 Glasgow QS-Dunblane)
25065+25084 Larbert-Mossend Yard (2220 Perth-Euston)

Apologies for another very belated response (I've been doing some research on Summer 78 workings). On 04/08/78 you have 55012 as 14.13 Yk - KX/ Might this have been 55009 by any chance? Thanks again

 

[Sultan1056]

Apologies for another very belated response (I've been doing some research on Summer 78 workings). On 04/08/78 you have 55012 as 14.13 Yk - KX/ Might this have been 55009 by any chance? Thanks again

Yes you are correct, I did travel with 55009 and not 55012 on 4/8/78. Cheers

 

[Kirkoswald]

Yes you are correct, I did travel with 55009 and not 55012 on 4/8/78. Cheers

Thanks Sultan. Much appreciated

 

[D1537]

Friday 9th September 1988
304033 Rugby-Nuneaton
47339 1E89 Nuneaton-Skegness

By this time in 1988 (47373 and its Immingham friends had done the Nuneaton-Skeg for most of the year, clearly they'd run out of FPLI pool 47s today) we were well aware that simply escaping the place was the best plan. The standard move was to Boston for the pubs and then back to Skeg for the evening return. However today something better was on offer.

150117 Skegness-Grantham
43062+43104 Grantham-Wakefield W
47342 1V61 Wakefield W-Bristol TM
47535 1M63 Bristol TM-Derby
43066+43084 Derby-Chesterfield

 

[SW Rover]

Tuesday 10th September 1991
Day 5
37401 1Y11 0335 Edinburgh Waverley - Fort William
Bus - Fort William to Inverness
37416 1A52 1212 Inverness - Aberdeen
37416 1H33 1524 Aberdeen - Inverness
37156 1A60 1800 Inverness - Aberdeen
47674 1M12 2120 Aberdeen - Euston (to Kirkcaldy) 'The Night Aberdonian'
158 2345 Edinburgh W - Perth (from Kirkcaldy)
158 2350 Glasgow Queen St - Inverness (from Perth)

 

[Falcon1200]

Monday 10th September 1984
45020 2325 Sun Glasgow C-Bristol TM (Birmingham NS-Cheltenham)
86325 0906 Birmingham NS-Manchester Picc (to Wolverhampton)
81007 0957 Wolverhampton-Euston (to Birmingham NS)
87014 0930 Euston-Inverness (Birmingham NS-Motherwell)

 

[SW Rover]

Wednesday 11th September 1991
Day 6
47532 1A44 0552 Inverness - Aberdeen (to Keith)
37156 1H23 0617 Aberdeen - Inverness (from Keith)
37428 2H82 1015 Inverness - Kyle of Lochalsh (to Achnashellach) 'Hebridean Heritage'
156 to Garve
37025 2H85 1227 Inverness - Kyle of Lochalsh (from Garve) 'Atlantic Heritage'
37428 2H84 1505 Kyle of Lochalsh - Inverness 'Hebridean Heritage'
37416 1A60 1800 Inverness - Aberdeen
47671 1M12 2120 Aberdeen - Euston (to Edinburgh W) 'The Night Aberdonian'
87033 1M12 (Edinburgh W to Euston)

 

[D1511]

Wednesday 11th September 1991
Day 6
37156 1H23 0617 Aberdeen - Inverness (from Keith) 37025 2H85 1227 Inverness - Kyle of Lochalsh

Finally, on day 6, something without an ETH box!

 

[D1511]

Saturday 12th September 1981

1Z09 08.40 Edinburgh - Chester Mystex 40187 xi GD Edinburgh - Carstairs
1Z09 08.40 Edinburgh - Chester Mystex 85014 xe CE Carstairs - Warrington BQ
1Z09 08.40 Edinburgh - Chester Mystex 40139 vo LO Warrington BQ - Chester
1Z09 08.40 Edinburgh - Chester Mystex 40139 vo LO Chester - Warrington BQ
1Z09 08.40 Edinburgh - Chester Mystex 85014 xe CE Warrington BQ - Carstairs
1Z09 08.40 Edinburgh - Chester Mystex 40187 xi GD Carstairs - Edinburgh

If I remember correctly, it cost £2.75!

 

[SW Rover]

Thursday 12th September 1991
Day 7
442 0745 Waterloo - Poole (to Woking)
50029 1L04 0703 Salisbury - Waterloo (from Woking)
50029 1L05 1000 Waterloo - Salisbury
50029 1L10 1213 Salisbury - Waterloo
86216 1N05 1455 Euston - Preston (to Crewe)
20163+20078 2D90 1644 Llandudno - Derby (from Crewe)
HST to Leicester

On this rover I had travelled 5040 miles of which 4407 was loco hauled by classes 20,33,37,47,50,73,86,87,90 & 91. Having read this forum thread I do wonder what I would have done if I was 10 years older. An All Line Rover in September 81 could have included Deltics on the ECML, 40s on the North Wales Coast, 25s on the Cambrian, 26s and 27s in Scotland and so much more. I would have been spoilt for choice. Looking back though I did still have a good selection of loco hauled opportunities to go for in 91. Today you only have 67, 68 and 91 loco hauled services with 66, 73 & 92 on the sleepers!

Sunday 12th September 1993
37414+37408 1N95 0753 Crewe - Blackpool North (to Manchester Picc)
Due to engineering works this was diverted via a reversal using the Chester Triangle to Altrincham & Stockport.
31438 1D33 0950 Manchester Oxford Rd - Llandudno (Manchester Picc to Rhyl)
37421 1K63 1250 Llandudno - Crewe (from Rhyl)
37429 1D67 1506 Crewe - Llandudno (to Chester) 158 to Crewe
37407 2M33 1305 Cardiff Central - Liverpool Lime St (from Crewe) 142 to Preston
37414 1K96 1920 Blackpool North - Crewe (from Preston via Stockport, Altrincham and Chester Triangle reversal)

 

[SW Rover]

Finally, on day 6, something without an ETH box!

Yes and if you add the 2 on Day 7 only 4 in total!

 

[D1511]

On this rover I had travelled 5040 miles of which 4407 was loco hauled by classes 20,33,37,47,50,73,86,87,90 & 91. Having read this forum thread I do wonder what I would have done if I was 10 years older. An All Line Rover in September 81 could have included Deltics on the ECML, 40s on the North Wales Coast, 25s on the Cambrian, 26s and 27s in Scotland and so much more. I would have been spoilt for choice. Looking back though I did still have a good selection of loco hauled opportunities to go for in 91. Today you only have 67, 68 and 91 loco hauled services with 66, 73 & 92 on the sleepers!

I wouldn't exactly claim I'm lucky to be at least 10 years older than you, but I did a few ALRs during the early eighties and it did seem much richer pickings back then than you seem to have had just 10 years later. I'll need to do some sums on mileages for a loco hauled comparison, but in 1981, my ALR haulage would have been behind classes 20, 25, 26, 27, 31, 33, 37, 40, 43, 45, 46, 47, 50, 55, 56, 73, 81, 82, 83, 85, 86 and 87 with an APT thrown in for novelty value.

I pity the modern active rail enthusiast in many ways.......you basically have to be a unit enthusiast these days.......and i'd rather eat my own excrement!

I travel frequently on the WCML and have done so for years. I could quite possibly have cleared my 390s for haulage, but the truth is I have absolutely no idea, because I've never even looked at their numbers......

 

[D1537]

Saturday 12 September 1987
47607 1O01 Coventry-Banbury
47621 1M10 Banbury-B'ham NS
47003 1E72 B'ham NS-Leicester

If I'd gone to Norwich and back with 003 this day I'd have cleared it for 1000 a year later. I presume I was a bit skint and so this was a "just in case for some reason the Heart of England isn't valid to Norwich like it is usually" day.

43115+43116 Leicester-Derby
47567 1V67 Derby-B'ham NS
47631 1O07 B'ham NS-Oxford
47366 1M23 Oxford-Macclesfield
87009 1V19 Macclesfield-B'ham NS
47526 1V19 B'ham NS-Coventry

Monday 12 September 1988
47374 1E89 Nuneaton-Skegness

Operation "if you think we're staying in Skegness for 8 hours you've got another think coming, we're off to Boston which has fewer d***heads and more decent beer pubs (one of which does really good food)" was fully in swing by this point.

dmu Skegness-Boston
dmu Boston-Skegness
47374 1M22 Skegness-Nuneaton

I travel frequently on the WCML and have done so for years. I could quite possibly have cleared my 390s for haulage, but the truth is I have absolutely no idea, because I've never even looked at their numbers......

I actually do record unit numbers, mainly for something to do when I'm commuting on the ECML. I've had 63 out of the 65 Azumas (and all the TPE 802s) and I've cleared 801208 and 801228 for 1000. I don't really have a sense of achievement about this

 

[Falcon1200]

I actually do record unit numbers, mainly for something to do

I do too, for the same reason, and (even worse) deliberately try to travel in 'new' vehicles. While it does keep an interest in rail travel going, it is definitely not the same as, for example, my first Scottish Region Railrover in 1979!

 

[D6130]

I do too, for the same reason, and (even worse) deliberately try to travel in 'new' vehicles. While it does keep an interest in rail travel going, it is definitely not the same as, for example, my first Scottish Region Railrover in 1979!

....or my first "Freedom of Scotland" rover in 1972!

 

[D1511]

I actually do record unit numbers, mainly for something to do when I'm commuting on the ECML.

I do too, for the same reason, and (even worse) deliberately try to travel in 'new' vehicles.

That's fair enough, and I realise I'm probably the outlier here, especially on this site, and in this particular thread!

I think I'm still just a bit bitter, as it was units (HSTs & 158s mostly) that killed off my rail enthusiasm in about 1985 or so by gradually replacing all the loco hauled services on just about all my favourite routes.

When I do the Cally sleeper I make a special point of checking the loco at both ends of the journey though.....and I've cleared that 92 pool!

Anyhoo......back to more joyous times .....Sulzers around the Kingdom of Fife

Monday 13th September 1982

2C20 17.33 Edinburgh - Cardenden 26001 xos HA Edinburgh - Cowdenbeath
1G18 16.30 Inverness - Edinburgh 26030 vbh IS + 47211 xb HA Inverkeithing - Edinburgh

Thursday 13th September 1984

2O08 07.40 Edinburgh - Glasgow QS 47327 xos BR Haymarket - Glasgow QS
1O43 16.00 Glasgow QS - Edinburgh 47711 xeh HA Glasgow QS - Edinburgh
1S27 10.59 London KX - Dundee 47346 xos CD Edinburgh - Inverkeithing
2G?? 17.28 Dundee - Edinburgh 27033 xb ED Inverkeithing - Haymarket