Back in the day...

[Harvester]

Sunday 31st August 1975

I visited Shildon to watch the 150th Anniversary cavalcade; its hard to believe that we are now almost at the 200th Anniversary.

And what a glorious sunny Sunday afternoon it was for viewing and photographing the cavalcade of 30 plus steam locos 49 years ago today. I was by the lineside between Shildon and Heighington, along with thousands of others, and then went to Darlington to see the large gathering of locos in the north sidings after the cavalcade had ended. Some left under their own steam that evening, but the majority stayed overnight and left the following day. An event which unfortunately will never be equaled!

 

[Sultan1056]

Saturday 1st September 1979

55007 Darlington-York (1935 Aberdeen-Kings Cross)
55002 York-Peterborough (0805 York-Kings Cross)
55015 Peterborough-Goole (1205 Kings Cross-Hull)
31276 Goole-Rotherham (1330 Scarborough-Sheffield)
37057 Rotherham-Sheffield (1355 Blackpool N-Sheffield)
37124 Sheffield-York (1139 Poole-Newcastle)

Tuesday 1st September 1987

43075+43xxx York-Kings Cross (0650 Newcastle-Kings Cross)
50004 Waterloo-Basingstoke (1110 Waterloo-Exeter St D)
73139 Basingstoke-Southampton C (1144 Waterloo-Bournemouth)
33001 Southampton C-Salisbury (1310 Portsmouth H-Bristol TM)
33112 Salisbury-Basingstoke (1515 Salisbury-Waterloo)
73139 Basingstoke-Clapham J (1500 Bournemouth-Waterloo)
EMU Clapham J-Vauxhall
HST Kings Cross-York (1800 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)

 

[D1537]

Wednesday 1st September 1982

Spent a day photographing around York, but had to have a trip out in the evening when YK chucked a new 40 out for M74.

40162 York-Huddersfield (1M74)
47531 Huddersfield-York (1E16)

 

[Sultan1056]

Saturday 2nd September 1978

45047 York-Leeds (0821 York-Tenby)
40192 Leeds-Huddersfield (0841 Leeds-Llandudno)
46037 Huddersfield-Stalybridge (0740 Newcastle-Liverpool LS)
40003 Stalybridge-Leeds (1040 Manchester Vic-Newcastle)
40133 Leeds-York (0900 Llandudno-York)
47542 York-Selby (1413 York-Kings Cross)
E50642/50645 Selby-Leeds (1330 Bridlington-Leeds)
45022 Leeds-Sheffield (1150 Glasgow C-Nottingham)
45019 Sheffield-York (1000 Newquay-Newcastle)
40077 York-Leeds (1545 Edinburgh-Liverpool LS)
E51956/51958/51979/51982 Leeds-Selby (1810 Liverpool LS-Hull)
47457 Selby-York (1809 Kings Cross-York)

Sunday 2nd September 1979

55009 York-Doncaster (1143 York-Kings Cross)
55015 Doncaster-York (1005 Kings Cross-York)
47351 York-Sheffield (1238 Newcastle-Plymouth)
47280 Sheffield-York (1110 Bristol TM-Newcastle) Relief
E50227/50257/51430/51497 York-Scarborough (1735 York-Scarborough)
37209 Scarborough-York (1925 Scarborough-Chesterfield)

 

[Sultan1056]

Monday 3rd September 1979

A favourite evening bash for me, including a fish supper. You could take the Hull-Leeds service into Leeds for a plus 2 onto the chariot to York or alternatively, you could leap at Cross Gates and visit the chippy adjacent to the station. Tonight the chippy was waiting for me!

55021 York-Doncaster (1811 York-Kings Cross)
55007 Doncaster-Hull (1705 Kings Cross-Hull)
31308 Hull-Cross Gates (2039 Hull-Leeds)
E51543/51560 Cross Gates-York (2200 Leeds-York)

 

[xotGD]

Monday 3rd September 1979

A favourite evening bash for me, including a fish supper. You could take the Hull-Leeds service into Leeds for a plus 2 onto the chariot to York or alternatively, you could leap at Cross Gates and visit the chippy adjacent to the station. Tonight the chippy was waiting for me!

55021 York-Doncaster (1811 York-Kings Cross)
55007 Doncaster-Hull (1705 Kings Cross-Hull)
31308 Hull-Cross Gates (2039 Hull-Leeds)
E51543/51560 Cross Gates-York (2200 Leeds-York)

Baling for the fish and chips sounds like a better move than relying on a Goyle to reach Leeds in time for a plus two!

 

[Sun Chariot]

Baling for the fish and chips sounds like a better move than relying on a Goyle to reach Leeds in time for a plus two!

My only Goyle into Leeds: 1984. The 31 failed near Dent, so Holbeck sent out a Rat for rescue. Two hours'wait, in a cosy Mk1 compartment; and the throatiest 25 I have ever heard...

 

[D6130]

My only Goyle into Leeds: 1984. The 31 failed near Dent, so Holbeck sent out a Rat for rescue. Two hours'wait, in a cosy Mk1 compartment; and the throatiest 25 I have ever heard...

Suspect that rat may have come from Skipton....and if it was one of several old hand Skipton drivers that I had the privilege of working alongside in the early 'nineties, it would have been full throttle all the way, including downhill. They would have needed to be in the LMS club before closing time!

 

[Sun Chariot]

Suspect that rat may have come from Skipton....and if it was one of several old hand Skipton drivers that I had the privilege of working alongside in the early 'nineties, it would have been full throttle all the way, including downhill. They would have needed to be in the LMS club before closing time!

Ah, Skipton. That might explain the length of our wait in Dent Head's lashing rain and howling wind. I recall Holbeck had an allocation of 25s - I didn't know Skipton had some in 1984.

Yes - the Rat's driver had the handle wide open, for the entire journey to Leeds. My teen self was highly impressed - all the Rats on the south WCML did little more than burbling.

It certainly made up for our disappointment at Carlisle, when our hoped-for Whistler over the S&C didn't happen.
(frustratingly, two 40s were idling on Carlisle's southern side...)

 

[xotGD]

This thread is littered with accounts of Goyles failing to reach their intended destination.

I wonder why that should be?

 

[Kirkoswald]

I've experienced quite a few that didn't reach their intended point of departure.

 

[CD]

My only Goyle into Leeds: 1984. The 31 failed near Dent, so Holbeck sent out a Rat for rescue. Two hours'wait, in a cosy Mk1 compartment; and the throatiest 25 I have ever heard...

My experience of a 31 in Leeds was more dramatic. After a B&B in York on the Saturday night, I caught 31207+31285 on 1040 York-Carlisle. On the viaduct on the approach to Leeds one of the pair caught fire. After a very long delay 47560 came to drag us into the platform. I was going for 45026 on 1130 Leeds-Cardiff, luckily this was ECS from Neville Hill so trapped behind us.

 

[Sun Chariot]

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My experience of a 31 in Leeds was more dramatic. After a B&B in York on the Saturday night, I caught 31207+31285 on 1040 York-Carlisle. On the viaduct on the approach to Leeds one of the pair caught fire. After a very long delay 47560 came to drag us into the platform. I was going for 45026 on 1130 Leeds-Cardiff, luckily this was ECS from Neville Hill so trapped behind us.

Happy days! Good that you still snared Peak 026.
I've only had one loco go "flambé": 1990, 47541 "The Queen Mother" arrived into Stirling, flames & thick smoke belching out of the cantrail vents.
Our planned trip to the Far North lines, didn't happen on that day; but we did get an RfD duff drag 541 and our train all the way to Inverness, in glorious August sun.

 

[D6130]

Ah, Skipton. That might explain the length of our wait in Dent Head's lashing rain and howling wind. I recall Holbeck had an allocation of 25s - I didn't know Skipton had some in 1984.

The 25s were allocated to Holbeck....but a few were outbased at Skipton traincrew depot for the Rylstone stone trains (in pairs) and local trip freight and engineering trains.

 

[Sun Chariot]

The 25s were allocated to Holbeck....but a few were outbased at Skipton traincrew depot for the Rylstone stone trains (in pairs) and local trip freight and engineering trains.

Makes sense now - many thanks. My grey cells are happily remembering the outrageous racket, echoing in the dark landscape, as the Rat's driver used full-bore all the way.

 

[D1537]

Saturday 4 September 1982

40027 York-Huddersfield 1M71
40002 Huddersfield-Leeds 1E34



40097 Leeds-Huddersfield 1M63
dmu Huddersfield-Wakefield K
37121 Wakefield K-Sheffield 1E57
47420 Sheffield-B'ham NS 1V97
47090 B'ham NS-Coventry 1V28

 

[NorthWestRover]

Didn't overlap with any of those 40 moves this week, but...

Anyway, this day just about sums up summer 1982 perfectly. 100% 40s on the North Wales Coast starting and ending with The Bangor... 386.5 miles.

40025 WBQ to Prestatyn, 1D34 07.45 Man Vic to Bangor
40035 Prestatyn to WBQ, 1E86 09.00 Llandudno to York
40106 WBQ to Rhyl, 1D29 10.45 Man Vic to Holyhead
40025 Rhyl to Man Vic, 1J30 11.57 Bangor to Man Vic
40025 Man Vic to Rhyl, 1D21 15.45 Man Vic to Bangor
40191 Rhyl to Chester, Return Mystex Rhyl to Glasgow
40049 Chester to Rhyl, 1D65 17.45 Man Vic to Llandudno Junc
40025 Rhyl to WBQ, 1J31 19.25 Bangor to Man Vic.

Ah, what a day.

Rhyl seemed to be the destination of choice today!

 

[Sultan1056]

Saturday 4th September 1976

45042 York-Derby (0701 Newcastle-Poole)
45013 Derby-Sheffield (1139 Poole-Newcastle)
46011 Sheffield-York (1139 Poole-Newcastle)

Tuesday 4th September 1979

55011 York-Doncaster (1811 York-Kings Cross)
55008 Doncaster-Goole (1705 Kings Cross-Hull)
E50273/50288/50603 Goole-Doncaster (1904 Hull-Manchester Pic)
55002 Doncaster-York (1805 Kings Cross-York)

Friday 4th September 1981

40015 York-Newcastle (1803 Kings Cross-Newcastle) Relief

 

[Sultan1056]

Wednesday 5th September 1979

47500 York-Darlington (1605 Liverpool LS-Newcastle)
43058+43059 Darlington-York (1700 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)

Saturday 5th September 1981

My plan for today was to travel along the closure threatened line between March & Spalding. In order to cover the Yarmouth-Newcastle, my preferred train, meant getting the early morning service from Peterborough and connecting into the 0400 Liverpool St-Norwich at Ely. The loco for the first part of my journey from Norwich was disappointing but at Grassmoor Junction I was very pleased to see 37072 take charge. Once back at York I was able to resume my Deltic travels.

55021 Newcastle-Peterborough (2225 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)
E50594 Peterborough-Ely (0538 Peterborough-Ipswich)
31126 Ely-Norwich (0400 Liverpool St-Norwich)
31408 Norwich-Grassmoor J (0920 Yarmouth-Newcastle)
37072 Grassmoor J-York (0920 Yarmouth-Newcastle)
55013 York-Grantham (1550 York-Kings Cross)
55014 Grantham-Doncaster (1603 Kings Cross-York)
55021 Doncaster-Kings Cross (1705 Scarborough-Kings Cross)
55013 Kings Cross-Edinburgh (2230 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)
via Leamside & Carlisle

Sunday 5th September 1982

12 “Sarah Siddons” (1338 Wembley Park-Uxbridge-Wembley Park)
via Watford, Amersham, Wembley Park & Uxbridge Sdgs
43070+43113 Kings Cross-York (1900 Kings Cross-Newcastle)

 

[xotGD]

37072 Grassmoor J-York (0920 Yarmouth-Newcastle)

There's a photo of your train on the 37 gen site...

Class37.co.uk

 

[Sultan1056]

There's a photo of your train on the 37 gen site...

Class37.co.uk

Ah very good! I note that there is a slight error in the title. 37072 didn’t unfortunately work the train from Norwich.

 

[D1537]

Saturday 5th September 1981

My plan for today was to travel along the closure threatened line between March & Spalding. In order to cover the Yarmouth-Newcastle, my preferred train, meant getting the early morning service from Peterborough and connecting into the 0400 Liverpool St-Norwich at Ely. The loco for the first part of my journey from Norwich was disappointing but at Grassmoor Junction I was very pleased to see 37072 take charge.

The time I did this to cover the line was also on the Yarmouth-Newcastle during an all-line that I did with my Dad during May 1980. We arrived at Norwich to find that the booked loco (which I believe from memory was 37110, but don't quote me on this) had collapsed, and so 47184 was nicked from its GE duties to do the train to Grassmoor. There, an excellent 40038 was provided to continue the journey.

 

[xotGD]

The time I did this to cover the line was also on the Yarmouth-Newcastle during an all-line that I did with my Dad during May 1980. We arrived at Norwich to find that the booked loco (which I believe from memory was 37110, but don't quote me on this) had collapsed, and so 47184 was nicked from its GE duties to do the train to Grassmoor. There, an excellent 40038 was provided to continue the journey.

Thanks to a family holiday I did the Newcastle-Yarmouth and Yarmouth-Newcastle throughout, thereby getting the line in the book, before I had a book.

 

[Sultan1056]

The time I did this to cover the line was also on the Yarmouth-Newcastle during an all-line that I did with my Dad during May 1980. We arrived at Norwich to find that the booked loco (which I believe from memory was 37110, but don't quote me on this) had collapsed, and so 47184 was nicked from its GE duties to do the train to Grassmoor. There, an excellent 40038 was provided to continue the journey.

I presume that was 24/5/80 when I joined the train at Selby. Post #5666 has the details of my day.

 

[Sultan1056]

Thursday 6th September 1979

55009 York-Doncaster (1811 York-Kings Cross)
55021 Doncaster-Hull (1705 Kings Cross-Hull)
31312 Hull-Cross Gates (2039 Hull-Leeds)
E50137/50276 Cross Gates-York (2200 Leeds-York)

Saturday 6th September 1980

It was Derby Works Open Day and I had volunteered to help out on the CFPS Sales Stand. After having a required Goyle on my outward journey I was able to squeeze in a Deltic from Grantham on my return.

31242 York-Derby (0824 York-Tenby)
M50669/50725 Derby-Nottingham (1620 Crewe-Lincoln St Marks)
M50652/50741 Nottingham-Grantham (1834 Nottingham-Grantham)
55016 Grantham-York (1805 Kings Cross-York)

Sunday 6th September 1981

I was planning to take the 1125 Edinburgh-Plymouth service today but the expected Deltic wasn’t turned out. I took the HST south in preference to the Duff.

43077+43107 Edinburgh-Newcastle (1115 Edinburgh-Kings Cross)
55014 Newcastle-York (1457 Newcastle-Kings Cross)

 

[Harvester]

Saturday 6th September 1980

It was Derby Works Open Day and I had volunteered to help out on the CFPS Sales Stand. After having a required Goyle on my outward journey I was able to squeeze in a Deltic from Grantham on my return.

31242 York-Derby (0824 York-Tenby)
M50669/50725 Derby-Nottingham (1620 Crewe-Lincoln St Marks)
M50652/50741 Nottingham-Grantham (1834 Nottingham-Grantham)
55016 Grantham-York (1805 Kings Cross-York)

I also attended the Open Day on 6/9/80. Had a pair of 20s out, and returned from Derby on the DMU mentioned above.

20195+20139 14:58 Beeston-Derby (12:58 Skegness-Derby)
DMU 17:47 Derby-Beeston (16:20 Crewe-Lincoln St Marks)

 

[D1537]

I presume that was 24/5/80 when I joined the train at Selby. Post #5666 has the details of my day.

We did 40038 to Newcastle and then if I remember another 40 (I don't have my 1980 book to hand at the moment, we've just moved house, but I remember the Yarmouth-Newcastle trip!) to Edinburgh where we stayed the night.

 

[Kirkoswald]

We did 40038 to Newcastle and then if I remember another 40 (I don't have my 1980 book to hand at the moment, we've just moved house, but I remember the Yarmouth-Newcastle trip!) to Edinburgh where we stayed the night.

That may well have been 40199 on 1S51 Scatborough - Queen Street.

 

[Sultan1056]

We did 40038 to Newcastle and then if I remember another 40 (I don't have my 1980 book to hand at the moment, we've just moved house, but I remember the Yarmouth-Newcastle trip!) to Edinburgh where we stayed the night.

That may well have been 40199 on 1S51 Scatborough - Queen Street.

Nice move! 40038 to Newcastle for 199 forward to Edinburgh.

 

[Sultan1056]

Friday 7th September 1979

After taking a required Duff to Leeds, I found myself with a bit of time on my hands. I took a unit to Bradford to view the 2120 service to KX. I presume this must have been a dud 31 so I returned to Leeds and onto Garforth to sample the Hull Leeds service; another dud 31. I finally get a required 31 when 31320 takes the Bradford-KX service forward from Leeds.

47078 York-Leeds (1525 Edinburgh-Liverpool LS)
E51813/51847 Leeds-Bradford Exchange (1935 Leeds-Bradford Exchange)
E51226 Bradford Exchange-Leeds
E51952/51961/51982 Leeds-Garforth (2114 Leeds-Hull)
31238 Garforth-Leeds (2039 Hull-Leeds)
31320 Leeds-Doncaster (2120 Bradford Exchange-Kings Cross)
47415 Doncaster-York (2015 Kings Cross-Edinburgh)

Sunday 7th September 1980

A day out on the NYMR including haulage by 841(30841) which has now been cannibalised with part of it running as 30825.

No.5 Pickering-Grosmont (1320 Pickering-Grosmont)
No.20 Grosmont-Goathland (1440 Grosmont-Goathland)
80135 Goathland-Levisham (1500 Grosmont-Pickering)
4767 Levisham-Grosmont (1500 Pickering-Grosmont)
841 Goathland-Pickering (1600 Grosmont-Pickering)
E50140/50622/51514/51823/52080 Malton-York (1858 Scarborough-Bradford Exchange)

Saturday 7th September 1985

47445 York-Leeds (0710 Newcastle-Liverpool LS)
45060 Leeds-York (1005 Liverpool LS-Scarborough)