RealTrains07
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Did wonder as i have seen more refurbished units with old virgin vestibules than ones with the refurbished blue
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TT-ONR-NRN
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Excellent to know they’re sorting that out. Much as I appreciated Virgin Trains, it was disappointing to see their obvious branding and very contrasting colour scheme in the first refurbished unit when it came out.
Also the retexturing of the toilet ceiling from Virgin’s fake wood to the brushed metal look, which for some reason isn’t done when they retexture the saloon conduits at Widnes.
NSEWonderer
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Looks like one of the A/C units on a Pendolino Unit was leaking condensate. Never seen that happen before on one of these units. Would be a first time leak due to rain as well if that were the case: -Click Here- Twitter Source: @B___K_____
I assume when this older unit(by looks of it) is refurbed the A/C unit will get reworked or nada?
I assume when this older unit(by looks of it) is refurbed the A/C unit will get reworked or nada?
NSEWonderer
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Weird how its rarely happened on the Voyagers of which often seem to be mentioned as poorer quality.
Trainbike46
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The 390 I was on yesterday had it too, though that could have been the same unit, as I was also in coach C and it was unrefurbished
NSEWonderer
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Must be the weather with them on full whack
What stage of refurbs are we at now? Surely can’t be far off all /1’s being done!
Only /1s left are: 117, 121, 134, 135 & 152.
dereksingh291
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Which one of these 5 11 cars have gone for refurbishment?
Ah sorry, this doesn’t include the unit currently in for refurbishment, I believe 137 is currently being refurbished.
Guessing this means mid August for the end of the /1’s?
If so - does this mean the plan for the /0’s has been finalised? Are we keeping ABCDEFHJK?
If so - does this mean the plan for the /0’s has been finalised? Are we keeping ABCDEFHJK?
DaveyJones
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137 came out last Friday (16th?)
My bad, I was looking at ukraillog.
Bletchleyite
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I have travelled on lots of Pendolinos and have never experienced that.
DaveyJones
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Spot on, all Air Conditioning units generate an amount of Condensate (Physics doesn't lie) its what happens to it afterwards which differs
Bletchleyite
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Also depends where the aircon units are. If most of it is below the floor and the cool air is just ducted up (as per Mk2, Mk3 etc), it'll just drip on the track and nobody will notice. I forget where they are on Pendolinos, but I have seen it on Chiltern 165s where they're in the luggage rack. You did get drips on Mk3s sometimes, but it was from a different source - leaks in the toilet flush water tank.
NSEWonderer
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Ah I see. Makes sense indeed
If the cold side radiators are in the passenger compartment (pretty much every modern system now, very little is ducted) then you always run the risk of condensate raining down. There will be drainage but if that gets blocked with dust from the radiators (usually indicates a poorly fitted filter) then it has to go somewhere. You’d be surprised how much water these things can pull from the air!
Some buildings use cold water rather than refrigerant to move heat out of an office space as it’s ideal for long runs, when those pipes pop it can be a proper torrent. Not aware of any trains that use such a system though.
Some buildings use cold water rather than refrigerant to move heat out of an office space as it’s ideal for long runs, when those pipes pop it can be a proper torrent. Not aware of any trains that use such a system though.
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More likely from tiny holes in the roof than the water tank.
No it was definitely the toilet header tank. Quite a common feature.
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Apologies, I had a week off last week to roam the rails so had to play catch up this evening - all updated now
StealthRailfan
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Hi, first post so apologies if this is a stupid newbie question...I have searched, I promise!
Looking at RTT, the 08:56 Avanti service ex-BHM to EUS is showing as "Pathed as Class 80x on electric" on Sunday 2 July. Normally it's either 390 EMU or as a Diesel Multiple Unit / Diesel Locomotive, i.e. a Voyager. This isn't going to be a new Hitachi train, is it? The seating plan loaded in the App appears to show an 11 car Pendolino. Is this some way of indicating perhaps it's an unrefurbished 11 car Pendolino or something, is it a typo, or am I missing something, if so, what? Did I miss the memo that Avanti now has their new Hitachi trains in service?
Looking at RTT, the 08:56 Avanti service ex-BHM to EUS is showing as "Pathed as Class 80x on electric" on Sunday 2 July. Normally it's either 390 EMU or as a Diesel Multiple Unit / Diesel Locomotive, i.e. a Voyager. This isn't going to be a new Hitachi train, is it? The seating plan loaded in the App appears to show an 11 car Pendolino. Is this some way of indicating perhaps it's an unrefurbished 11 car Pendolino or something, is it a typo, or am I missing something, if so, what? Did I miss the memo that Avanti now has their new Hitachi trains in service?
william.martin
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That is the timing load, it will definitely not be an 805 or 807.
Bletchleyite
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Some services are planned for 80x but they aren't yet in service so it could be a Pendolino or Voyager. One way to find out which is to do a dummy booking on Trainsplit and see what the seat map shows.
pokemonsuper9
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Most of the time from what I've seen is the seating plan always shows an unrefurbished 11 car if it's any Pendolino for now.
They did say in their post that they got the seat plan up in "the App" (Avanti's?)
The timing for the 80x fleet was put in early as they are slightly slower as they cannot tilt, so need a slower timetable for when they are introduced.
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