ATW stock allocation questions

Parallel · 5 Dec 2015

'Ruabon Tunnel' and 'Northgate Street Tunnel' are another two strange destinations I've seen on their Journeycheck site tonight.

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Llanigraham · 5 Dec 2015

PHILIPE said:
A passenger train ? Apart from these two there are several other strange locations, and in the journey details, lots of gateposts mentioned.

Oops!!
I shall stand in the corner with the dunce's cap on. :oops:

Starmill · 6 Dec 2015

The second most surprising thing I've seen on ATW Journey Check today is:

Caersws: Ticket Vending Machine problem
The ticket vending machines are out of order at Caersws station.

It has a machine!?

The most surprising thing however was

2235 Holyhead to Northgate Street Tunnel due 2330
This train will be cancelled between Chester and Cardiff Central due to temporary speed restrictions as a result of heat.

Llanigraham · 6 Dec 2015

Caersws has had a machine for probably nearly a year, and it has probably been broken spasmodically for over half that time! It was very sensibly (NOT) placed to take all the weather from the south west so the ticket drawer is often full of water and the screen develops a mind of it's own when it's wet.
And guess what? It rains a lot in Caersws!!
Why they could fit it inside the "shelter" or even under the cover by the old signal box and ticket office I do not know!!

craigybagel · 6 Dec 2015

Llanigraham said:
Caersws has had a machine for probably nearly a year, and it has probably been broken spasmodically for over half that time! It was very sensibly (NOT) placed to take all the weather from the south west so the ticket drawer is often full of water and the screen develops a mind of it's own when it's wet.
And guess what? It rains a lot in Caersws!!
Why they could fit it inside the "shelter" or even under the cover by the old signal box and ticket office I do not know!!

Even if it was sheltered it still wouldn't work - it's not just the Caersws one that's bad, network wide they've been terrible.

PHILIPE · 7 Dec 2015

Somebody tweeted ATW Twitter today that machine at Caersws accepting money but not giving out tickets.

Gareth Marston · 7 Dec 2015

ATW Stakeholder team went rather coy when probed about them and were non committal on how much they were or weren't used. Conductors on the Cambrian still issue on board without sticking to the rules and barrier staff at Shrewsbury are OK about issuing tickets.

The RPI's that did a sweep at Welshpool a few weeks back got an earful about the TVM.

Llanigraham · 7 Dec 2015

PHILIPE said:
Somebody tweeted ATW Twitter today that machine at Caersws accepting money but not giving out tickets.

Not unusual!!

ValleyLines142 · 8 Dec 2015

Jez said:
Almost exclusively. Last night I caught the train from Swansea at 1858 and it was something that has become rare on this service a 158. A nice surprise.

I much prefer a 158 to a 175, perhaps because i travel on 175s so much i get fed up of them but I was thinking the other day how tired the 175s are looking compared to a 158. Time for a refresh i think.

Was going to catch the 1930 from Manchester this evening to time it with the last bus in Cardiff but I'm glad I didn't as it was a pair of 153s! :lol:

(153320+153312).

Thankfully I was blessed with a very quiet 175104!

Jez · 10 Dec 2015

To be honest i wouldnt mind a 153, ive travelled on them many times and found them ok. I wonder if the pair of 153s continued to Carmarthen which is where the 1930 Manchester ends up or whether it was swapped at Cardiff.

ValleyLines142 · 11 Dec 2015

Jez said:
To be honest i wouldnt mind a 153, ive travelled on them many times and found them ok. I wonder if the pair of 153s continued to Carmarthen which is where the 1930 Manchester ends up or whether it was swapped at Cardiff.

Well they were 30 minutes down at Leominster for some reason so I'm not sure what happened there. Whether they were indeed swapped at Cardiff I don't know

PHILIPE · 11 Dec 2015

Large numbers of ATW trains cancelled today through shortage of Conductors.

craigybagel · 11 Dec 2015

Looks like 2 Carmarthen, 1 Machynlleth, 1 Chester and 1 Shrewsbury uncovered. That said, whilst not a defence,I suspect you'll find most TOCs struggle to cover all their jobs this time of year!

455driver · 11 Dec 2015

craigybagel said:
Looks like 2 Carmarthen, 1 Machynlleth, 1 Chester and 1 Shrewsbury uncovered. That said, whilst not a defence,I suspect you'll find most TOCs struggle to cover all their jobs this time of year!

Doesn't make it right though!

craigybagel · 11 Dec 2015

455driver said:
Doesn't make it right though!

True that. There's a group route learning at the moment and a pretty constant production line of conductors going through the training centre for the next few months that should help. Also the headcount at one of the depots that's been struggling the most is increasing soon which should mean more spare crew available.

Anyway, I'm doing two cross depot cover rest days this weekend, you can't blame me

Bellbell · 11 Dec 2015

Which depot is that, out of interest? I might be in the market for looking to change TOC depending on where the vacancies are.

craigybagel · 11 Dec 2015

Bellbell said:
Which depot is that, out of interest? I might be in the market for looking to change TOC depending on where the vacancies are.

One of the northern depots, I'm not sure if I'm able to share more than that publically. In any case the recruitment campaign has already taking place. Feel free to PM if there's anything I can help with though.

PHILIPE · 12 Mar 2016

Large number of ATW services affected again today due to shortage of Conductors. Carmarthen Depot seems to be particularly hard hit.

trainophile · 12 Mar 2016

PHILIPE said:
Large number of ATW services affected again today due to shortage of Conductors. Carmarthen Depot seems to be particularly hard hit.

On a Saturday? Doesn't bode well for tomorrow then I guess.

PHILIPE · 12 Mar 2016

trainophile said:
On a Saturday? Doesn't bode well for tomorrow then I guess.

It has been happening before on a large scale on a Saturday. Should be OK tomorrow.

ValleyLines142 · 12 Mar 2016

150258 on 1730 Manchester to Cardiff!!!! YUCK!!

craigybagel · 12 Mar 2016

DanTrainMan185 said:
150258 on 1730 Manchester to Cardiff!!!! YUCK!!

Crewe Junction signal box was closed overnight due to staff illness. This meant that the 0449 Crewe - Milford Haven, booked for a 175, had to start from Shrewsbury with a 150. That's the same diagram that forms the 1730 Manchester Cardiff.

trainophile · 13 Mar 2016

Is that what I'm on now, a 4-coach Sprinter, 1034 from CDF to MAN? Disappointing and somewhat cramped. Not full, just no legroom.

Class 92 · 13 Mar 2016

Is this service now booked to be a 158? http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P24053/2016/03/12/advanced Whenever I have passed it on my way to Crewe or seen it at Crewe there has been a 158 on it.

6Gman · 13 Mar 2016

PHILIPE said:
Large number of ATW services affected again today due to shortage of Conductors. Carmarthen Depot seems to be particularly hard hit.

Rugby match anywhere?

PHILIPE · 13 Mar 2016

trainophile said:
Is that what I'm on now, a 4-coach Sprinter, 1034 from CDF to MAN? Disappointing and somewhat cramped. Not full, just no legroom.

Don't you know if your'e travelling on it ? Booked 158+150

craigybagel · 13 Mar 2016

Class 92 said:
Is this service now booked to be a 158? http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P24053/2016/03/12/advanced Whenever I have passed it on my way to Crewe or seen it at Crewe there has been a 158 on it.

Been booked for a 158 on a Saturday for a while - But often replaced with a 150. Booked 175 on a weekday.

headshot119 · 13 Mar 2016

craigybagel said:
Crewe Junction signal box was closed overnight due to staff illness. This meant that the 0449 Crewe - Milford Haven, booked for a 175, had to start from Shrewsbury with a 150. That's the same diagram that forms the 1730 Manchester Cardiff.

That's an interesting one to end up shut!

At least things could still get to and from Shrewsbury from the South.

I was caught up in the conductor shortage last night when 1W96 was axed between Shrewsbury and Chester.

trainophile · 13 Mar 2016

PHILIPE said:
Don't you know if your'e travelling on it ? Booked 158+150

Sorry no, I just got on it when it pulled in :oops:

. Not everyone knows what Class they are travelling in, especially mere passengers like myself :lol:

.

It got us there on time though, whatever it was

.

craigybagel · 13 Mar 2016

PHILIPE said:
Don't you know if your'e travelling on it ? Booked 158+150

trainophile said:
Sorry no, I just got on it when it pulled in . Not everyone knows what Class they are travelling in, especially mere passengers like myself .

It got us there on time though, whatever it was .

2 x 150 today for some reason.

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