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Evening i've heard that Arriva yorkshire are getting some ex Warringtons own buses E200MMCs. Is this true?

I've been informed that all of the Warrington Enviro 200MMCs have been purchased by ARRIVA Yorkshire (except the one that burnt out on loan to Whippet)
In addition they also have SN16OSA/OSB from JMB Travel of Newmains.
 

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I've been informed that all of the Warrington Enviro 200MMCs have been purchased by ARRIVA Yorkshire (except the one that burnt out on loan to Whippet)
In addition they also have SN16OSA/OSB from JMB Travel of Newmains.
Interesting (and welcome) move. I wonder if Arriva are generally now looking into the newer used market to aid fleet replenishment.

Do we know if those ex Warrington will receive a full refurb? Hopefully banishing those hideous rear sofa seats in the process.
 

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Interesting (and welcome) move. I wonder if Arriva are generally now looking into the newer used market to aid fleet replenishment.

Do we know if those ex Warrington will receive a full refurb? Hopefully banishing those hideous rear sofa seats in the process.
15 E200's inbound and a batch of E400s from Leicester soon too.
 

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Service changes at Arriva Yorkshire from 23 February:
We are making some changes to our bus services across Yorkshire from 23 February 2025.

Key features of these changes include:
• There will be some minor timetable changes to services 51, 163, 255, 261 and 272. Some journeys will be retimed to account for the latest traffic levels.
• We have added a limited number of additional trips to services 163, 261 and 272 where we have been able to do so without increasing the number of drivers we need.
• Other bus operators will run WYCA tendered services 21/22 and 571 from 23 February. The contracts we hold for these services end on 23 February. As part of the usual process, WYCA have invited bids from bus operators to run these services and the successful bidders will provide the services from 23 February.

Go Ahead West Yorkshire announced that they will be taking over the 571, using Fourways.
Exciting news!

Service 571 is set to launch with the new timetable starting 23rd Feb!

Stay tuned for updates and details coming soon. West Yorkshire, we can’t wait to get rolling! #Service571

Additionally, 1453 has been withdrawn due to accident damage.
 

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Service changes at Arriva Yorkshire from 23 February:
Still no sign of filling the very inconvenient gap in the 232 at the end of the evening rush hour. This has existed since Yorkshire Traction ceased to be, and seems to only exist for the operational convenience of the Waterloo depot in Huddersfield- which no longer operates the route anyway as it's now under Transdev.
My friend who uses this route daily for his commute to Leeds, has to twiddle his thumbs in Wakefield for an hour because of this gap... meaning he doesn't get home til around 8pm. I predict another round of angry letters to Arriva and WYCA!
 

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Go-Ahead WY will now be operating the 571. Anyone have any info on depots, vehicles, etc?
 

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Do Arriva never bother to give their buses a good clean?

I was on one yesterday and all the windows were covered in a thick layer of dirt, to the extent you could barely see out to see if your stop was approaching!
 

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Do Arriva never bother to give their buses a good clean?

I was on one yesterday and all the windows were covered in a thick layer of dirt, to the extent you could barely see out to see if your stop was approaching!
Bus washing is generally worse in cold weather due to the risk of ice in freezing temperatures making passing buses through the washer potentially hazardous.
 

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Bus washing is generally worse in cold weather due to the risk of ice in freezing temperatures making passing buses through the washer potentially hazardous.
And in conditions like this, after an hour on the road the buses will be caked in grime again anyway and you'd never know they had been washed in a month.
 

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Do Arriva never bother to give their buses a good clean?

I was on one yesterday and all the windows were covered in a thick layer of dirt, to the extent you could barely see out to see if your stop was approaching!
It wasn’t on the 140/1 route was it? I thought about posting something and it would have been identical to yours. The other Arriva buses I saw at Castleford were nothing like as grubby, so perhaps this example slipped through the net.
 

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Bus washing is generally worse in cold weather due to the risk of ice in freezing temperatures making passing buses through the washer potentially hazardous.
That's the excuse that Arriva are sticking to anyway.

I was back in Yorkshire a couple of weeks ago. It was only Arriva buses which were filthy. The E200 I was on from Castleford to Glasshoughton was so bad I actually couldn't see where I was.

Maybe Castleford is just a lot colder than Keighley(!)
 

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It wasn’t on the 140/1 route was it? I thought about posting something and it would have been identical to yours. The other Arriva buses I saw at Castleford were nothing like as grubby, so perhaps this example slipped through the net.

I noticed it on the 189 but funnily enough was on a 141 this morning and the exact same! (Thankfully they do seem to still be able to work out how to chuck a bit of water on the windscreen or we may be in trouble!)
 

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Made the mistake of trying to perform a lunchtime errand using the Arriva Yorkshire bus.

Needless to say, the next bus back was cancelled, so that's immediately an extra twentyfive minutes out of my day.

Get to the stop with the following bus showing 8 minutes on the display. This ticks down to four minutes, taking a lot longer than 4 minutes difference.

I look away for another couple of minutes, then look up and it's gone back to six minutes. This bus then goes to due and dissappears.

Next bus showing is a time, but the bus eventually turns up.

When the bus does turn up, its a teeny-tiny toy town bus with everyone squashed on.

Overall, it turned out to be about three quarters of an hour out of mg working day that I have to make up.
 

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1063 parked up due to engine failure.

1061 also parked up as well, its 1049 tracking as 1061

More e400mmcs due from Leicester this weekend to replace 5 B7RLEs with more buses coming later on.

E200MMCs not heading to Hecky now due to capacity issues on their routes there going to another depot, my bet is either Dewsbury or Castleford.

SN16OSA/OSB and YY15 NHU are for Selby, believe they are replacing some of the MCV Evolutions.

I believe Arriva are now trying to standardise the fleet with new buses and get rid of the older ones as well.

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Service changes at Arriva Yorkshire from 23 February:


Go Ahead West Yorkshire announced that they will be taking over the 571, using Fourways.


Additionally, 1453 has been withdrawn due to accident damage.

1453 is at Durham I believe, meaning its waiting for parts and repairs.

1476 is waiting for a new engine as well and sat at Castleford.
 

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Selby’s Evolution’s need replacing, some look like they are reaching the end, at least one of them has the front bumper looking a bit loose for a while.

Also since one of their usual allocations, the 51 from Doncaster to Askern/Norton was reduced to hourly it has generally been decker operated with the VDL Gemini’s appearing regularly
 

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Selby’s Evolution’s need replacing, some look like they are reaching the end, at least one of them has the front bumper looking a bit loose for a while.

Also since one of their usual allocations, the 51 from Doncaster to Askern/Norton was reduced to hourly it has generally been decker operated with the VDL Gemini’s appearing regularly

The evolutions could be replaced by the second hand e200s Arriva have bought, they've bought 3, 2 16 plates and 1 15 plate

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E400MMCs 4545 and 4546 now arrived at Hecky, will be numbered 1988 and 1989 in Yorkshire fleet.
 
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E400MMCs 4545 and 4546 now arrived at Hecky, will be numbered 1988 and 1989 in Yorkshire fleet.
Ex Arriva Midlands YX16OKM (4533), YX16OKN (4534), YX16OKO (4535) also now at Heckmondwike and will be numbered 1985/6/7 respectively
 

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Have these E400MMCs entered service yet and if not when are they due to enter service?
 

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Another day, another ghost bus on the 189.

Problem is that half of the buses don't have tracking anyway, so it's roulette as to whether your bus is non-existant or just the tracking is.
 

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Have these E400MMCs entered service yet and if not when are they due to enter service?
According to bustimes.org, these are tracking on the 268 today. Evidence can be found on Flickr.

The evolutions could be replaced by the second hand e200s Arriva have bought, they've bought 3, 2 16 plates and 1 15 plate
Do we know their number plates as of yet?
 

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According to bustimes.org, these are tracking on the 268 today. Evidence can be found on Flickr.


Do we know their number plates as of yet?
Number plates are reported to be YY15NHU SN16OSA/B but no fleet numbers reported.
 

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Another day, another ghost bus on the 189.

Problem is that half of the buses don't have tracking anyway, so it's roulette as to whether your bus is non-existant or just the tracking is.

You must live not too far from me then. I live near the 189 route, near Normanton,
 

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