Arriva Midlands

[Trainman40083]

They are the ones being kicked out of Liverpool for being too old.

On the bright side. At least the buses are newer than some of the taxis.

 

[busspotter1]

On the bright side. At least the buses are newer than some of the taxis.

Hahaha fantastic !!

 

[43055]

If they are all sent to a scrap dealer there is a chance they still get purchased in tact if they are still runners.

Some of the Vdls must be not far off scrap. I assume that is why some of the Omnicities still remain, perhaps the better of the bunch.

There has been mention of another e400 or two joining the Derby fleet. Can anyone confirm/deny this?

E400 4416 YJ58 FHA is now showing on the bus times fleetlist for Derby which looks like it was previously at Telford.

 

[joieman]

E400 4416 YJ58 FHA is now showing on the bus times fleetlist for Derby which looks like it was previously at Telford.

Swapped for Pulsar 2 3747.

 

[Penfold@658]

WF Streetlights 2318 2319 2320 2321 have left Luton swapped in return 3153 3154 3155 3156 E200 MMC

2318 at Hinckley
2319 2320 2321 at Coalville Hugglescote

 

[43055]

WF Streetlights 2318 2319 2320 2321 have left Luton swapped in return 3153 3154 3155 3156 E200 MMC

2318 at Hinckley
2319 2320 2321 at Coalville Hugglescote

Part of me thinks what was the point in the E200's coming up in the first place. Could they have just gone straight to Luton?

In Derby it seems that deckers are now back on the 1's with Pulsars on the 4.

 

[Trainman40083]

A friend on route 4 in Derby has asked me what bus is tracking as 3552. He reckons it certainly isn't a Scania. He even thought it was an Enviro.

 

[zkyx02]

A friend on route 4 in Derby has asked me what bus is tracking as 3552. He reckons it certainly isn't a Scania. He even thought it was an Enviro.

4416 is tracking as SP-DC, had a ride on it last night & it was quite nice, didn’t rattle to much on London road, 3552 isn’t double tracking currently so it should actually be the Scania.

2954/55 are in service at Derby, both tracking as SP-DC with no midlands fleet numbers applied, heard they’ll become 3703/4/5 once repaints have happened.

 

[Trainman40083]

4416 is tracking as SP-DC, had a ride on it last night & it was quite nice, didn’t rattle to much on London road, 3552 isn’t double tracking currently so it should actually be the Scania.

2954/55 are in service at Derby, both tracking as SP-DC with no midlands fleet numbers applied, heard they’ll become 3703/4/5 once repaints have happened.

That suggests my friend is going blind, and he knows it.

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4416 is tracking as SP-DC, had a ride on it last night & it was quite nice, didn’t rattle to much on London road, 3552 isn’t double tracking currently so it should actually be the Scania.

2954/55 are in service at Derby, both tracking as SP-DC with no midlands fleet numbers applied, heard they’ll become 3703/4/5 once repaints have happened.

Yes 2925 is tracking as 2330 on Oakwood, 4416 as SPDC on 30 Sinfin and 2924 as SPDC on Alvaston group 1.

 

[bringiton]

Yes 2925 is tracking as 2330 on Oakwood, 4416 as SPDC on 30 Sinfin and 2924 as SPDC on Alvaston group 1.

Have they chosen to keep the old fleet numbers then?

 

[43055]

Have they chosen to keep the old fleet numbers then?

I would imagine they will get a 37xx or 38xx number at some point like the rest of the vehicles from Liverpool.

 

[bringiton]

I would imagine they will get a 37xx or 38xx number at some point like the rest of the vehicles from Liverpool.

Yeah, id of thought so. Doesnt surprise me its not been changed yet. 3721 entered service with no FN on the vehicle, then had a temporary one stuck on the side

 

[Trainman40083]

I would imagine they will get a 37xx or 38xx number at some point like the rest of the vehicles from Liverpool.

The three should become 3703 to 3705. I imagine they may go in for painting soon.

 

[zkyx02]

Few Derby vehicles are in Milton Keynes today/tomorrow helping out with F1, 4404/5/6 & 4204 are the ones I’ve seen but quite a few others are in use.

It’s nice to see a Derby operator with enough spares to do things like this & not rely on subsidiaries to run services

Photos attached are the Derby vehicles currently down in Milton Keynes.

 

[Trainman40083]

Few Derby vehicles are in Milton Keynes today/tomorrow helping out with F1, 4404/5/6 & 4204 are the ones I’ve seen but quite a few others are in use.

It’s nice to see a Derby operator with enough spares to do things like this & not rely on subsidiaries to run services

Photos attached are the Derby vehicles currently down in Milton Keynes.

More fun seeing them racing on the circuit.

 

[Fin447]

Also seen photos of 4214 4220 4420 4536 4537 4540 4552 4565 4569

 

[43055]

Few Derby vehicles are in Milton Keynes today/tomorrow helping out with F1, 4404/5/6 & 4204 are the ones I’ve seen but quite a few others are in use.

It’s nice to see a Derby operator with enough spares to do things like this & not rely on subsidiaries to run services

Photos attached are the Derby vehicles currently down in Milton Keynes.

Nice to see them helping out. Also helps that most routes are less frequent at weekends.

 

[derbybusdepot]

Nice to see them helping out. Also helps that most routes are less frequent at weekends.

Surprised there was university hopper bus there. Never known the fully branded ones to be used on any other services.

 

[joieman]

Quite a lot of buses being shuffled about lately. Hinckley's 15-plate E200s 2000-3 have been transferred to Telford in exchange for four more Wright Streetlite WFs: two from Telford (2315/7) and two from Luton (2314/6). Three of the four former East Midlands Airport shuttle buses (3101/3-4), the shorter 17-plate E200MMCs at Hinckley, have also gone to Telford in exchange for 13-plate Wright Pulsar 2s (3793/6-7).

 

[Russel]

Quite a lot of buses being shuffled about lately. Hinckley's 15-plate E200s 2000-3 have been transferred to Telford in exchange for four more Wright Streetlite WFs: two from Telford (2315/7) and two from Luton (2314/6). Three of the four former East Midlands Airport shuttle buses (3101/3-4), the shorter 17-plate E200MMCs at Hinckley, have also gone to Telford in exchange for 13-plate Wright Pulsar 2s (3793/6-7).

This shuffling of a mid to nearly end of life fleet can't be sustainable for much longer.

 

[SSmith2009]

I do wonder if this is to standardise on fleet types at depots and to allow for larger singles on the X84 too.

 

[aswilliamsuk]

Arriva have won the various Travel Telford routes (99-104 group) in their entirety from Centre bus/Chaserider - I would presume this is connected.

 

[m0ffy]

There have been local rumours of a new route through Whitwick (Leics), alleged to be run by Arriva. Has anyone seen any confirmation of route/vehicles?

 

[joieman]

There have been local rumours of a new route through Whitwick (Leics), alleged to be run by Arriva. Has anyone seen any confirmation of route/vehicles?

Variation to registration PF0007085/175 (service 11), effective 26th August 2025. Perhaps the 11/11A and 12 are being merged. There are numerous other service changes registered effective from that date also.

 

[m0ffy]

Variation to registration PF0007085/175 (service 11), effective 26th August 2025. Perhaps the 11/11A and 12 are being merged. There are numerous other service changes registered effective from that date also.

Tremendous, thank you. Rather amusingly, that means the two councillors vociferously opposing the variation are the two that campaigned for it initially.

 

[joieman]

Tremendous, thank you. Rather amusingly, that means the two councillors vociferously opposing the variation are the two that campaigned for it initially.

How come?

 

[m0ffy]

The 12 was reintroduced earlier this year after a long period of campaigning for its return, but part of this variation changes its route slightly to go down a different, nearly parallel, road. One resident is so incensed by having a bus stop installed in front of their house that they’ve written to every resident on the street and all our councillors to oppose the plan. Two of those councillors were heavily involved in getting the 12 reinstated and they’re now back-pedalling at speed.

Personally I think it’s a sensible variation, and one Optare Solo an hour, in one direction only, probably won’t result in the deaths of all our children and the fall of civilisation.

 

[derbybusdepot]

Bus times suggests changes on some Derby routes from 30th August. Routes 4, 5/5a, 6, 7, 20/26 and x38 are listed as having either timetable, or route variations or both.

 

[43055]

Bus times suggests changes on some Derby routes from 30th August. Routes 4, 5/5a, 6, 7, 20/26 and x38 are listed as having either timetable, or route variations or both.

x38 being a route change. Ditching Derby bus station to go back to Victoria street?

 

[Trainman40083]

x38 being a route change. Ditching Derby bus station to go back to Victoria street?

I would have thought the X38 did reasonably well from/to the bus station.