Arriva Midlands

[Russel]

New E200 MMC with 6.7L engines which are arriving in the next few weeks.

Replacing double decks with singles then?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Replacing double decks with singles then?

Under Arriva, the Chester to Wrexham route has gone from Leyland Olympians to new Volvo Olympians, then to Darts SLFs and then Pulsars (albeit on a 12 min frequency) before the refurbed Sapphire e400s and then the e400 city's.

Seems odd to think that those city's are now 9 years old. However, I digress....

 

[darylyates17]

Under Arriva, the Chester to Wrexham route has gone from Leyland Olympians to new Volvo Olympians, then to Darts SLFs and then Pulsars (albeit on a 12 min frequency) before the refurbed Sapphire e400s and then the e400 city's.

Seems odd to think that those city's are now 9 years old. However, I digress....

Possibly not getting as much revenue as the route was when they were ordered?

 

[Russel]

Under Arriva, the Chester to Wrexham route has gone from Leyland Olympians to new Volvo Olympians, then to Darts SLFs and then Pulsars (albeit on a 12 min frequency) before the refurbed Sapphire e400s and then the e400 city's.

Seems odd to think that those city's are now 9 years old. However, I digress....

Using that as a rough guide, we should see it go back to deckers in a few years then!

 

[M60lad]

I wonder what their replacing at Milton Keynes?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Using that as a rough guide, we should see it go back to deckers in a few years then!

Who can say but what we do know is that after a protracted period of limited investment under DB ownership, Arriva are now investing in their operations. Not before time!

 

[Voyager 2953]

I wonder what their replacing at Milton Keynes?

Those wretched E400s I imagine which are falling like flies.

 

[BULLSAREMAGIC]

Who can say but what we do know is that after a protracted period of limited investment under DB ownership, Arriva are now investing in their operations. Not before time!

hopefully Arriva will match their investment with promoting their services and we'll see the end of ongoing retrenchment and service cuts

 

[bv52_eno]

Is 7102 really on 158 or is it just a mistrack?

 

[MylesW]

Is 7102 really on 158 or is it just a mistrack?

It’s real. With all of our deckers being at Silverstone and us being a bus down due to a breakdown last night, it’s the only choice. As we have only 3 coaches out on X6s on a Saturday.

 

[Trainman40083]

There will soon be plenty of super buses for many depots. The 26 Enviro 200MMCs for Derby, will allow for the cascade of the VDLs.

 

[SSmith2009]

It’s real. With all of our deckers being at Silverstone and us being a bus down due to a breakdown last night, it’s the only choice. As we have only 3 coaches out on X6s on a Saturday.

Not ideal although I await the day an electric decker goes on the 158

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There will soon be plenty of super buses for many depots. The 26 Enviro 200MMCs for Derby, will allow for the cascade of the VDLs.

and the many singles that will be released when Thurmaston get their fleet of GB Kites later this year.

 

[E B]

Is 7102 really on 158 or is it just a mistrack?

Wow! Will have to go and see that later.

 

[MylesW]

Not ideal although I await the day an electric decker goes on the 158

It has happened before! It was for a few trips in the evening a few months back now.

 

[bv52_eno]

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[Qwerty133]

It’s real. With all of our deckers being at Silverstone and us being a bus down due to a breakdown last night, it’s the only choice. As we have only 3 coaches out on X6s on a Saturday.

Why 158 over X84, would have thought the X84 would have been more suitable given the limited stop nature and several lengthy bits of fast running?

 

[joieman]

Why 158 over X84, would have thought the X84 would have been more suitable given the limited stop nature and several lengthy bits of fast running?

I wouldn't describe the X84 as a limited-stop service. I just checked the route on Bustimes: apart from where it runs along the middle of Narborough Road South instead of along the side roads on either side, the only stop en route that it seems to skip is Opposite Parkend in Brownsover.

 

[SSmith2009]

I wouldn't describe the X84 as a limited-stop service. I just checked the route on Bustimes: apart from where it runs along the middle of Narborough Road South instead of along the side roads on either side, the only stop en route that it seems to skip is Opposite Parkend in Brownsover.

Only the section between Leicester and Fosse Park is limited stops.

Any vehicle running a journey is better than lost mileage.

 

[isaac27]

Strange to see 2 e400s on the 6 from Tamworth at the same time today.
4411 & 4114 would have thought that these would be on the 110 and the singles on the 6 as they are short of euro 6 busses.

 

[Penfold@658]

It has happened before! It was for a few trips in the evening a few months back now.

Electric Streetdeck 8009 Did 158 route on January 26th
that was 6 months ago

 

[zkyx02]

hopperbus contract has been won by NCT, have a feeling it’s to do with using electric vehicles. No official details as of yet but announcements will come in due course

 

[Volvo142]

Not surprised and share the same opinion.

Let's hope the existing fleet stay in Derby rather than getting sent to other places because some of the Gemini are really starting to struggle now and there are other routes which would welcome increased capacities.

 

[swinny1990]

hopperbus contract has been won by NCT, have a feeling it’s to do with using electric vehicles. No official details as of yet but announcements will come in due course

Is that from September this year ?

 

[SSmith2009]

Not surprised and share the same opinion.

Let's hope the existing fleet stay in Derby rather than getting sent to other places because some of the Gemini are really starting to struggle now and there are other routes which would welcome increased capacities.

*IF* the 9 buses used on the hopper network did stay at Derby it would allow most of the geminis to be withdrawn or reallocated elsewhere.

 

[swinny1990]

Any more information?

 

[mm3309219x]

hopperbus contract has been won by NCT, have a feeling it’s to do with using electric vehicles. No official details as of yet but announcements will come in due course

Is there a source for this?

 

[zkyx02]

Is that from September this year ?

I’d assume so.

*IF* the 9 buses used on the hopper network did stay at Derby it would allow most of the geminis to be withdrawn or reallocated elsewhere.

yeah can’t image the Volvos being sent onwards… although they’ll probably grace Tamworth.

Any more information?

no, just that the contract has been lost to NCT.

Is there a source for this?

management at Derby. Official announcements will come soon.

 

[busfan308]

Given Derby has circa 30 pulsars and will be receiving 25 new Enviro’s, could this mean that there may be additional deckers replacing the remaining 5 or so Pulsars?

 

[Trainman40083]

Given Derby has circa 30 pulsars and will be receiving 25 new Enviro’s, could this mean that there may be additional deckers replacing the remaining 5 or so Pulsars?

It could even be 26 new Enviros.. I liked the Pulsars.

 

[Russel]

Has there been any indication on where Derbys Pulsars could go once displaced?