Arriva Midlands

[busfan308]

Has the PVR for route 4 in Derby been increased to 3 vehicles? Noticed 3 vehicles tracking on bustimes lately.

 

[Trainman40083]

Has the PVR for route 4 in Derby been increased to 3 vehicles? Noticed 3 vehicles tracking on bustimes lately.

Maybe an oddment, with it being interworkrd with the 26... The 4 is only half hourly

 

[Volvo142]

As above, I think it can be two or three depending on the time you check, due to the interworking.

It's a bit like the 6 and 7 which alternate between three and four buses tracking all day....

 

[Trainman40083]

Arri us seen leaving Derby bus station

 

[Russel]

Arri us seen leaving Derby bus station

Quality repair that is.

 

[Trainman40083]

Quality repair that is.

I guess it is all about getting the bus back on the road again, as soon as possible. Here is 4551, which I understand, had a close encounter with a red Audi the other day.

 

[joieman]

I guess it is all about getting the bus back on the road again, as soon as possible. Here is 4551, which I understand, had a close encounter with a red Audi the other day.

I don't see anything except the dent on the bottom near the back, is that the point?

 

[Trainman40083]

I don't see anything except the dent on the bottom near the back, is that the point?

Well, I am not sure. But a car ran into the side of it, it seemed serious, yet the bus was back out within a few hours

 

[Russel]

I guess it is all about getting the bus back on the road again, as soon as possible. Here is 4551, which I understand, had a close encounter with a red Audi the other day.

I get that, but they've used the darker shade of blue and it'll be months before the rest of the vinyl transfers are reapplied, which really should take minutes.

 

[Trainman40083]

I get that, but they've used the darker shade of blue and it'll be months before the rest of the vinyl transfers are reapplied, which really should take minutes.

Only when you said that did I notice a different colour. But could the rest just have weathered?

 

[Russel]

Only when you said that did I notice a different colour. But could the rest just have weathered?

Could have, but it looks like they've used the new darker blue to me.

I get that sometimes things need a quick fix to get them back on the road, but it seems that the bus industry in general is happy to settle for sloppy standards of presentation.

 

[Trainman40083]

Could have, but it looks like they've used the new darker blue to me.

I get that sometimes things need a quick fix to get them back on the road, but it seems that the bus industry in general is happy to settle for sloppy standards of presentation.

I would agree. In a perfect world there would be enough spare buses and assets would not be sweated. But that needs profit...What I see, pretty much across the board, is operators trying to run a service, with whatever they have that works

 

[joieman]

A few upcoming registered service changes in Leicestershire have appeared on Bustimes:

PF0007085 – ARRIVA MIDLANDS LTD – bustimes.org

bustimes.org

From 11/07/2026, there will be some alterations to the service LC12 (Fenny Drayton - Atherstone - Measham). Also effective from this date are this summer's bus services to Twycross Zoo: the TZ1 (Leicester - Hinckley - Nuneaton - Twycross Zoo) (probably the same as last year's service TZ25), and the TZ3 (Coalville - Ashby-de-la-Zouch - Measham - Twycross Zoo).

From 18/07/2026, the service 127 will be having its route through Quorn altered on Sundays, with alternate journeys, renumbered the 127A, serving Chaveney Road for Quorn & Woodhouse railway station on the Great Central Railway, instead of Loughborough Road, as explained in this post by Councillor Liz Blackshaw that I found on Facebook:

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The SUNDAY 127 bus service is changing with effect from 18th July 2026.

127, Leicester - Loughborough - Shepshed
Variation to Sunday only buses will run via Woodhouse Road, Chaveney Road and Meeting Street. The main reason is to offer a service from all areas along the route in partnership with GCR Quorn and Woodhouse, who host various events and timetabled services on Sundays at this location during the summer. Sunday journeys alternate serving Woodhouse Road, with the other journeys serving normal route around Quorn.
There is NO CHANGE to the timetable, or routing on Monday to Saturday.

 

[DS25]

Tendering has gone out for Shropshire Council subsidised services and Arriva has lost quite a few services

2/12/3A: Withdrawn services completely, currently operated by the Optare Solos
64: Lost to D&G
23/26: Retained, operated by E200s
437: Won by Arriva from Tanat, to be ran by Evoras I think?
Meole P&R: Withdrawn due to ’low passenger numbers’ but thats a disguise for ’we are using the site for housing’
Oxon/Harlescott P&R: According to the council Arriva are getting new buses for this route, whether thats redeployment of the Evoras, or just using the slightly newer Versas, I dont know

 

[K219UHA]

Tendering has gone out for Shropshire Council subsidised services and Arriva has lost quite a few services

Oxon/Harlescott P&R: According to the council Arriva are getting new buses for this route, whether thats redeployment of the Evoras, or just using the slightly newer Versas, I dont know

Has it been confirmed Arriva have retained the Park and Ride services? It doesn't mention Arriva in anything published, unless missed it and local rumours suggest another operator may have won it.

 

[DS25]

Has it been confirmed Arriva have retained the Park and Ride services? It doesn't mention Arriva in anything published, unless missed it and local rumours suggest another operator may have won it.

Oh wait, my mistake! If any other operator did win it I have no idea which one it would be, preferably Lakeside though!

 

[k27spg]

Oh wait, my mistake! If any other operator did win it I have no idea which one it would be, preferably Lakeside though!

Arriva have lost the two remaining P&R too - suggested but not confirmed that Lakeside have these.

Arriva have also lost 23/26 to D&G.

 

[DS25]

Arriva have lost the two remaining P&R too - suggested but not confirmed that Lakeside have these.

Arriva have also lost 23/26 to D&G.

I wonder how D&G are going to operate them then, they have made a massive expansion into Shropshire this year, sorry for spreading misinformation btw!

 

[k27spg]

I wonder how D&G are going to operate them then, they have made a massive expansion into Shropshire this year, sorry for spreading misinformation btw!

I wonder if they'll outstation or whether they might make an advance on Arriva for the Shrewsbury operation - can't be more than about 30 PVR after all of that.

Step-sister Select have a yard just inside Shropshire too of course.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: 19 Jun 2026 ==

Internal memo makes for grim reading.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Meole P&R: Withdrawn due to ’low passenger numbers’ but thats a disguise for ’we are using the site for housing’

To be honest, there's a lot of P&Rs across the UK that are really not being used. Harlescott has got to be one of the most dispiriting places to wait for a bus.

 

[simes312002]

All info on Shropshire's website:

Improvements to bus services across Shropshire following review - Shropshire Council Newsroom

The review will see new bus services, new more accessible buses, and improved timetable. Some will have a new operator and some will stop.

newsroom.shropshire.gov.uk

https://newsroom.shropshire.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/Bus-service-review-2026-details-1.pdf

 

[k27spg]

To be honest, there's a lot of P&Rs across the UK that are really not being used. Harlescott has got to be one of the most dispiriting places to wait for a bus.

To be fair, the remaining two will retain their 12" frequency uplift and gain 10pm finishes - seems eminently sensible to me.

 

[Wolfie]

Could have, but it looks like they've used the new darker blue to me.

I get that sometimes things need a quick fix to get them back on the road, but it seems that the bus industry in general is happy to settle for sloppy standards of presentation.

You see more than a few buses in London with panels in various shades of red. I'm sure weathering is the major reason.

 

[DS25]

To be honest, there's a lot of P&Rs across the UK that are really not being used. Harlescott has got to be one of the most dispiriting places to wait for a bus.

None of the Park & Ride sites in Shrewsbury are nice, nor is the bus station which is in a desperate state and really needs refurbishment or relocation, but god knows where else it could go. Knowing Shropshire Council it will be left like that for another 50 years
Im quite shocked Meole Brace P&R has the lowest passenger numbers as it serves the Football stadium, Retail Park and a few housing estates. If there was a magic pot of money Id try and build Meole Brace train station which would be quite useful considering the location

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

To be fair, the remaining two will retain their 12" frequency uplift and gain 10pm finishes - seems eminently sensible to me.

We can only hope that they have two good sites rather than three sub-optimal ones, and it would be good to make the retained ones a bit better. I can't recall Oxon but Harlescott has stuck in the memory for being a truly grim spot.

At least they are keeping some facilities - much better than Worcester fared!

 

[k27spg]

We can only hope that they have two good sites rather than three sub-optimal ones, and it would be good to make the retained ones a bit better. I can't recall Oxon but Harlescott has stuck in the memory for being a truly grim spot.

At least they are keeping some facilities - much better than Worcester fared!

They're both pretty miserable from memory - especially Harlescott!

Somebody also wasting money by providing an overlaid OHS service between Oxon and RSH - just divert P&R and give it some patronage!

 

[markymark2000]

None of the Park & Ride sites in Shrewsbury are nice, nor is the bus station which is in a desperate state and really needs refurbishment or relocation, but god knows where else it could go. Knowing Shropshire Council it will be left like that for another 50 years

A bigger issue in my view is Shropshire Council continuing the Park and Ride as a dedicated separate service. It's not only poorly used in the grand scheme of things, but given the rest of Shrewsbury has generally poorer buses, moving the P&R into the core bus network with a P&R element (perhaps cheaper fares) would seem to be the most common sense approach. Similar to York, Oxford and Salisbury. If someone said to me that I could boost the frequency of buses along key roads into the town by 5 buses per hour and the cost increase be negligible, I'd bite their hand off. Not only for the benefits of patronage to the P&R but the wider economic benefits of reducing car usage.

Then again, can you really expect P&R to take off when one of the largest council ran car parks in the town is only £1.20 per hour! Doesn't take Einstein to see the issues here.

Im quite shocked Meole Brace P&R has the lowest passenger numbers as it serves the Football stadium, Retail Park and a few housing estates. If there was a magic pot of money Id try and build Meole Brace train station which would be quite useful considering the location

Is there a shuttle from the P&R to the stadium? If not then it's a 20 minute walk to the stadium. This also doesn't help the core P&R usage. The retail park is 10-15 minutes walk too (unless they have reopened the route through the housing development?

 

[DS25]

Is there a shuttle from the P&R to the stadium? If not then it's a 20 minute walk to the stadium. This also doesn't help the core P&R usage. The retail park is 10-15 minutes walk too (unless they have reopened the route through the housing development?

No, there is dedicated stadium shuttle buses, from Town and other places in Shropshire, so my point about the football stadium is probably invalid then

A bigger issue in my view is Shropshire Council continuing the Park and Ride as a dedicated separate service. It's not only poorly used in the grand scheme of things, but given the rest of Shrewsbury has generally poorer buses, moving the P&R into the core bus network with a P&R element (perhaps cheaper fares) would seem to be the most common sense approach. Similar to York, Oxford and Salisbury.

Its very annoying if you are waiting at Tesco for the 24/25 and you watch about 5 empty P&R buses wizz down the road while your bus is about half an hour late!

Also does anyone know who is operating the P&R after the changes take place?

 

[Trainman40083]

No, there is dedicated stadium shuttle buses, from Town and other places in Shropshire, so my point about the football stadium is probably invalid then


Its very annoying if you are waiting at Tesco for the 24/25 and you watch about 5 empty P&R buses wizz down the road while your bus is about half an hour late!

Also does anyone know who is operating the P&R after the changes take place?

I never wait more than 5 minutes at a bus stop. With bustimes.org I can see exactly where my bus is, so I time my arrival perfectly.

 

[joieman]

8055 now carries a new Leicester Buses livery based on that of First's electric buses in Leicester.