A career as a train driver

[E&W Lucas]

Hi everyone I'm hoping for some advice, I had applied for the Trainee Train Driver job in Hull with Northern. I was told that there were people more qualified than me who had applied. But with no feedback I'm unsure as what to do next. I'm currently working shifts so it's hard to even study. I really do want this and I am determined. Should I resist my GCSE's??

Oh dear. You've had a "get you off the phone" conversation with someone in HR, and you've taken a standard line of "better qualified applicants" far too literally.

Of course the successful applicants are "better qualified"; that's why they passed the selection, and you did not. You've been given precisely no information.

The recruitment is competency based. They are looking for evidence that you have certain skills. They have already been detailed before on this site many times. You've told us nothing about you, so it is impossible to form any judgement as to whether you may have them. There are drivers with few formal qualifications, but that is not now the norm. You are applying for an intensive training programme, which requires several months of classsroom based learning. You will need to be able to demonstrate that you are going to be able to cope with this. You've also made comments that effectively state that you are finding shift work difficult; if so, then this is not the career for you.

 

[Firestarter]

Hi all.. new here.. im.a shunter for emt and was wondering if anybody knows of places that do private driving assessment tests.. ive done it twice before through my company.. failed on mech comprehension and then the structured interview but i can take again due to the test changing.. i was told db schenker but arent they closing down... i emailed rail ops who said they no longer do it either so im at bit of a loss.. im based in derby

Why don't you email and find out?

 

[red2005]

Yes I applied and didn't get passed the first stage, saying there was people more qualified you had applied. Obviously I meant resit my GCSE's it was my predictive text that did that.

I don't understand what you mean by stop trolling? I was asking advice.
I would like to know what areas of qualifications are needed more than others.

Didn't realize this forum was for shooting people down when asking advice
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Hi, yes I applied, I was told there were people more qualified than me, due to the high number of applications they receive they couldn't give any feedback at this time. I was just asking for people's advice who has passed on which areas are most important qualifications wise.

Cheers
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Thanks this is the kind of advice I'm looking for

There's no real harm in resitting your GCSE's but at the same time there's probably no real need or benefit in doing so either.

Most of the assessments that you'll undertake have very little to do with GCSE related things anyway aside from maybe the English required for the application form.

There are plenty of people in places like the Jobcentre who can assist in writing application forms etc......There are even people on here that I dare say would be more than happy to help you.

I'm no expert but feel free to drop me a pm and I don't mind having a look over your application to see if there's anything obviously wrong with it.....totally understand if you'd rather not though.

But what I would say mate is that you're applying for a position with thousands of other applicants........The odds are already stacked against even the best applicants right from the beginning simply due to the numbers.

Like I say even the best applicants will have someone who's better qualified in a certain area......The key is showing that you're the best in as many areas as possible.........you can do that simply by doing your research on absolutely everything from the application......The recruitment process.......The training course right through to the things a driver with 30 years experience still faces.

It really is about making yourself stand out from everyone else and if not just being on par with them to give yourself a fighting chance. Also don't give up, very few people get a train driving job first time! It took me the best part of 8 years. If you've got the flexibility don't just limit yourself to one TOC either....remember just because your application wasn't accepted by TOC-A it doesn't mean TOC -B won't accept it.

Don't be sucked in by some of the bitterness by others on here who've stuck one application in and because they didn't get it first time there's obviously a conspiracy either......These are the people that obviously haven't done their research and think that the process is a walk in the park!........that or they're over confident, both of which being a recipe for disaster.

Perserverence is what will get you through dont give up after one knock back and use any feedback that you can as a positive.....no matter how little you've had it can still be used to your advantage.......If you've been told there's more experienced applicants nip down to your nearest train crew depot and as what you can do to get more experience.....think outside the box.

don't be fooled by the GCSE thing mate........Academic things like that will always take a back seat to common sense in this grade. Remember GCSE/ A levels etc prove that you're pretty decent in a classroom environment.........common sense is the thing that stops you killing someone.

You can probably tell from my awful grammar that my GCSE results were nothing to scream from the rooftops about but I'm still a pretty good driver even if I do say so myself lol!!!!!!

Good luck matey.

 

[Dutton165]

Evening all, I decided that I wanted to pursue a career as a Train Driver and started looking at all of my options, I found an opportunity as a Depot Driver and thought I would apply for it without any real hope of being successful. I do not currently work in the industry and found this forum to be incredibly helpful for advice and experiences of applying for similar roles, so thank you to anybody who has posted on this thread/forum. I kept surprising myself and got through all of the various stages of the process, all the way through to an interview at the Depot, I thought the interview went well, but I was ultimately unsuccessful.

I am hopeful of finding similar job opportunities I can apply for, but I wondered that as I have recently passed the Train Driver Assessment, please could anybody confirm if I would need to go through the assessment process again if I were to apply for other roles? Apologies if that question has already been covered on the forum, I am just keen to hear from anybody who may have been in a similar position and could advise of what approach to take.

 

[A2B]

Evening all, I decided that I wanted to pursue a career as a Train Driver and started looking at all of my options, I found an opportunity as a Depot Driver and thought I would apply for it without any real hope of being successful. I do not currently work in the industry and found this forum to be incredibly helpful for advice and experiences of applying for similar roles, so thank you to anybody who has posted on this thread/forum. I kept surprising myself and got through all of the various stages of the process, all the way through to an interview at the Depot, I thought the interview went well, but I was ultimately unsuccessful.

I am hopeful of finding similar job opportunities I can apply for, but I wondered that as I have recently passed the Train Driver Assessment, please could anybody confirm if I would need to go through the assessment process again if I were to apply for other roles? Apologies if that question has already been covered on the forum, I am just keen to hear from anybody who may have been in a similar position and could advise of what approach to take.

Hi,

Welcome to club,

As far as your question, validity of your train driver assessment for other roles is concerned, Yes your test is valid as long as you apply for Drivers Job with any other TOC (train operating company ) in the UK. But if by other roles you mean other jobs within railway like train guard or platform staff, then your assessments are not valid for these roles and they will ask you to sit specific assessments for that very role.

I believe train driver assessment that you have just passed is valid for 5 years and you are free to apply for driving jobs with any train operating company. Your assessment are recorded on a central database hence they are valid with all tocs.

Hope this helps.

 

[DaiGog]

Hi all,

I have recently been successful in passing the psychometric tests and competency interview, so have the manager's interview to come in the near future. Forgive me if these questions have already been answered - 75 pages is a lot to go searching through - so:

1) I hear conflicting reports about how long the test pass is valid - 3 years? 5 years? Anybody able to confirm for sure?

2) Do companies tend to view candidates who have passed the tests favourably as they know the standard has been attained, rather than taking a punt on someone who hasn't passed the tests already?

 

[Max287]

Hi mate. DB are still doing the testing at Donny (£375), I'm booked in myself next month. I just sent an email to their recruitment address which is recruitment.team@deutschbahn.com

New to this, not sure what i'm doing! This was supposed to be in reply to tooneyram regarding his last post :-/

 

[red2005]

375 quid for something you can get for free!!!?? You must have money to burn lad

 

[Max287]

Hi all.. new here.. im.a shunter for emt and was wondering if anybody knows of places that do private driving assessment tests.. ive done it twice before through my company.. failed on mech comprehension and then the structured interview but i can take again due to the test changing.. i was told db schenker but arent they closing down... i emailed rail ops who said they no longer do it either so im at bit of a loss.. im based in derby

Hi mate. DB are still doing the private assessment at Donny (£375), I'm booked in myself there next month. I just emailed their recruitment address which is recruitment.team@deutschbahn.com
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375 quid for something you can get for free!!!?? You must have money to burn lad

If only! Its my last chance and I just want to get it done and dusted one way or the other. I feel ready (i think!) and it just feels like its now or never so I did some overtime to save up and decided to take the plunge!

 

[red2005]

If it was me I'd just get an application in to a TOC and get it done for free pal.....there's not too much of a benefit in doing it privately as it costs you money and you'd still have to go through an application process anyway.

Have faith mate I'm sure you'll fly through this time no matter who you take it with.

 

[Max287]

If it was me I'd just get an application in to a TOC and get it done for free pal.....there's not too much of a benefit in doing it privately as it costs you money and you'd still have to go through an application process anyway.

Have faith mate I'm sure you'll fly through this time no matter who you take it with.

Thanks red, I've got everything crossed and practising as much as I possibly can! Nervous but hopeful

 

[red2005]

Thanks red, I've got everything crossed and practising as much as I possibly can! Nervous but hopeful

Only normal to be nervous........there'd be something wrong if you weren't.

Best way mate and if you're unsure on the day ASK!!!!! You'd be amazed at the amount of people that blow it because they were unsure of something and just tried to wing it. They're not there to fail you remember mate.

Red.

 

[Dutton165]

Hi,

Welcome to club,

As far as your question, validity of your train driver assessment for other roles is concerned, Yes your test is valid as long as you apply for Drivers Job with any other TOC (train operating company ) in the UK. But if by other roles you mean other jobs within railway like train guard or platform staff, then your assessments are not valid for these roles and they will ask you to sit specific assessments for that very role.

I believe train driver assessment that you have just passed is valid for 5 years and you are free to apply for driving jobs with any train operating company. Your assessment are recorded on a central database hence they are valid with all tocs.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for your reply A2B, that was very helpful. I did mean other entry level driver positions, so it is good to know I could apply with the bonus of having already passed the assessment. I will throw my hat in the ring and hope a TOC sees enough potential in me.

When you say welcome to the club, are you in a similar position to me?

 

[RBSN]

I don't understand why anyone would spend near on £400 for pretty much nothing?

People need to remember; just because you have passed the assessments, doesn't mean you will get passed the paper-sift. When I applied for a trainee position with Northern 600 people also applied for the same placement - times that by 12 traineeships that Northern were recruiting for at the time and you get my point.

It's a big gamble spending that kind of money.

 

[red2005]

I don't understand why anyone would spend near on £400 for pretty much nothing?

People need to remember; just because you have passed the assessments, doesn't mean you will get passed the paper-sift. When I applied for a trainee position with Northern 600 people also applied for the same placement - times that by 12 traineeships that Northern were recruiting for at the time and you get my point.

It's a big gamble spending that kind of money.

Agree with this 100%......it's not really going to help you on a papersift as there's so many more important things on the application you have to get spot on long before they'd realistically see this as an attractive factor in putting you through.

In relation to the validity of passes it very much depends on who you're applying to....yes it's valid in theory for 5 years but some companies only accept it for 2 or 3 etc etc etc.

My advice to anyone would be to save your money and put your efforts into making sure the other 99% of the application is spot on.....that's where the overall difference makers lie.

 

[steve1982]

There's no real harm in resitting your GCSE's but at the same time there's probably no real need or benefit in doing so either.

Most of the assessments that you'll undertake have very little to do with GCSE related things anyway aside from maybe the English required for the application form.

There are plenty of people in places like the Jobcentre who can assist in writing application forms etc......There are even people on here that I dare say would be more than happy to help you.

I'm no expert but feel free to drop me a pm and I don't mind having a look over your application to see if there's anything obviously wrong with it.....totally understand if you'd rather not though.

But what I would say mate is that you're applying for a position with thousands of other applicants........The odds are already stacked against even the best applicants right from the beginning simply due to the numbers.

Like I say even the best applicants will have someone who's better qualified in a certain area......The key is showing that you're the best in as many areas as possible.........you can do that simply by doing your research on absolutely everything from the application......The recruitment process.......The training course right through to the things a driver with 30 years experience still faces.

It really is about making yourself stand out from everyone else and if not just being on par with them to give yourself a fighting chance. Also don't give up, very few people get a train driving job first time! It took me the best part of 8 years. If you've got the flexibility don't just limit yourself to one TOC either....remember just because your application wasn't accepted by TOC-A it doesn't mean TOC -B won't accept it.

Don't be sucked in by some of the bitterness by others on here who've stuck one application in and because they didn't get it first time there's obviously a conspiracy either......These are the people that obviously haven't done their research and think that the process is a walk in the park!........that or they're over confident, both of which being a recipe for disaster.

Perserverence is what will get you through dont give up after one knock back and use any feedback that you can as a positive.....no matter how little you've had it can still be used to your advantage.......If you've been told there's more experienced applicants nip down to your nearest train crew depot and as what you can do to get more experience.....think outside the box.

don't be fooled by the GCSE thing mate........Academic things like that will always take a back seat to common sense in this grade. Remember GCSE/ A levels etc prove that you're pretty decent in a classroom environment.........common sense is the thing that stops you killing someone.

You can probably tell from my awful grammar that my GCSE results were nothing to scream from the rooftops about but I'm still a pretty good driver even if I do say so myself lol!!!!!!

Good luck matey.

thanks red see this is the kind of advice I was looking for 
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Oh dear. You've had a "get you off the phone" conversation with someone in HR, and you've taken a standard line of "better qualified applicants" far too literally.

Of course the successful applicants are "better qualified"; that's why they passed the selection, and you did not. You've been given precisely no information.

The recruitment is competency based. They are looking for evidence that you have certain skills. They have already been detailed before on this site many times. You've told us nothing about you, so it is impossible to form any judgement as to whether you may have them. There are drivers with few formal qualifications, but that is not now the norm. You are applying for an intensive training programme, which requires several months of classsroom based learning. You will need to be able to demonstrate that you are going to be able to cope with this. You've also made comments that effectively state that you are finding shift work difficult; if so, then this is not the career for you.

I hadn't spoken to anyone on the phone and I've done shifts most of my life, I was just saying that due to shift work I was turned down for courses, needed to be there the same time every week, nothing to do with the shifts been hard mate

 

[red2005]

thanks red see this is the kind of advice I was looking for 
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I hadn't spoken to anyone on the phone and I've done shifts most of my life, I was just saying that due to shift work I was turned down for courses, needed to be there the same time every week, nothing to do with the shifts been hard mate

You're welcome.

I hope it works out for you.

Remember......do what it takes.....especially go to your nearest train crew depot to show your face/ ask questions, things like that aren't forgotten.

Small things make big differences and something small like visiting a depot may be the edge you need.

Oh and I forgot to say don't limit yourself to the driving role to begin with. If they've told you that more experience is required you may as well get the best type of experience you can get!

In this case SAFETY CRITICAL/CUSTOMER SERVICE.......look at platform staff or conductor roles. It's not what is top of your list job wise right now but it's a foot in the door where they can see how you work and you can also meet the right people to help. Aside from that imagine how much more you can chuck at them experience wise in an application form or interview....it'd be a big step in the right direction.

It's also another way of seeing if you are right for the job or the job is right for you!...If you became a guard and worked closely with drivers and seeing the role close up you may end up thinking its not actually for you!......getting into the industry full stop in any capacity can only be a step forward mate.

Red

 

[danbarnstall]

Someone mentioned to me that the ATAVT perception test isn't simply right and wrong. For example if you mark two of the 3 items in one photo you'll still score points which will contribute to your end mark. Obviously someone matching all items will score higher. Is this right?

 

[Adelala]

Hello
Please I am new and willing to take a career in the train industry as a train driver but am finding it hard, could anyone please advice me on where to get the necessary resources and guidelines needed to be followed. I will really appreciate, thanks

 

[GMT]

Hello
Please I am new and willing to take a career in the train industry as a train driver but am finding it hard, could anyone please advice me on where to get the necessary resources and guidelines needed to be followed. I will really appreciate, thanks

Hi Adelala, I don't think you will be receiving many answers to your question, as your question has been asked lots and lots of times.

Anyway, becoming train driver is a very hard and long process (I'm not one but I've been chasing it like you for the past two years. I've also tried as conductor but with no joy). You need patience (jobs don't come up that often) and willingness to persevere. And bear in mind that there's always a chance that it will never happen. So think of other options, careers, too.

The necessary resources and guidelines in my opinion are this forum,
Google and the Train Operator Companies' websites. I've spent a lot of time searching in this forum. You will learn everything about the railway industry (and more) by browsing this forum. If you google some of your questions you may end up in this forum. Check daily the TOC's website, precisely the careers section where they advertise their job opportunities. That's it.

Good luck.

 

[R6Pilot]

There's no real harm in resitting your GCSE's but at the same time there's probably no real need or benefit in doing so either.

Most of the assessments that you'll undertake have very little to do with GCSE related things anyway aside from maybe the English required for the application form.

There are plenty of people in places like the Jobcentre who can assist in writing application forms etc......There are even people on here that I dare say would be more than happy to help you.

I'm no expert but feel free to drop me a pm and I don't mind having a look over your application to see if there's anything obviously wrong with it.....totally understand if you'd rather not though.

But what I would say mate is that you're applying for a position with thousands of other applicants........The odds are already stacked against even the best applicants right from the beginning simply due to the numbers.

Like I say even the best applicants will have someone who's better qualified in a certain area......The key is showing that you're the best in as many areas as possible.........you can do that simply by doing your research on absolutely everything from the application......The recruitment process.......The training course right through to the things a driver with 30 years experience still faces.

It really is about making yourself stand out from everyone else and if not just being on par with them to give yourself a fighting chance. Also don't give up, very few people get a train driving job first time! It took me the best part of 8 years. If you've got the flexibility don't just limit yourself to one TOC either....remember just because your application wasn't accepted by TOC-A it doesn't mean TOC -B won't accept it.

Don't be sucked in by some of the bitterness by others on here who've stuck one application in and because they didn't get it first time there's obviously a conspiracy either......These are the people that obviously haven't done their research and think that the process is a walk in the park!........that or they're over confident, both of which being a recipe for disaster.

Perserverence is what will get you through dont give up after one knock back and use any feedback that you can as a positive.....no matter how little you've had it can still be used to your advantage.......If you've been told there's more experienced applicants nip down to your nearest train crew depot and as what you can do to get more experience.....think outside the box.

don't be fooled by the GCSE thing mate........Academic things like that will always take a back seat to common sense in this grade. Remember GCSE/ A levels etc prove that you're pretty decent in a classroom environment.........common sense is the thing that stops you killing someone.

You can probably tell from my awful grammar that my GCSE results were nothing to scream from the rooftops about but I'm still a pretty good driver even if I do say so myself lol!!!!!!

Good luck matey.

That was a very useful reply, as I am also considering taking GSCE equivalent maths and physics to assist me in this process (I am in the early stages of preparation)

I appreciate that it won't give any 'plus points' to my suitability as such, but my thinking was that it would at least show a) a recognition of my own shortcomings b) a willingness to develop myself under my own initiative in order to address them c) some practical help in sharpening myself up for the various assessments and d) some genuine learning that I never received the first time round !

I don't have much (regular) spare time to spend on my continued development / preparation in this respect, so I do have a real dilemma on how best to spend it and serve myself most effectively. I have bought all the relevant books on the various psychometric tests that will be applied and am about to draw up a regular study programme for this, but I do still have serious reservations ! ....is this really enough ? ....tbh, I'm concerned that I'll still easily be caught lacking in the areas that I'm not naturally good at - maths and physics. Is there a better / more suitable way of improving my general ability in these areas without committing to a formal qualification ?

as an aside - I see people on her occasionally say "send me a pm" however, I can only see an option to post a "message board" note on a members personal profile, which is public rather than private ! ....am I missing something obvious ? hock:hock:

 

[Hammer4life]

Think you need to post 5 times before you can pm

 

[R6Pilot]

Think you need to post 5 times before you can pm

Ahhhh, that would make sense ! thank you

 

[red2005]

That was a very useful reply, as I am also considering taking GSCE equivalent maths and physics to assist me in this process (I am in the early stages of preparation)

I appreciate that it won't give any 'plus points' to my suitability as such, but my thinking was that it would at least show a) a recognition of my own shortcomings b) a willingness to develop myself under my own initiative in order to address them c) some practical help in sharpening myself up for the various assessments and d) some genuine learning that I never received the first time round !

I don't have much (regular) spare time to spend on my continued development / preparation in this respect, so I do have a real dilemma on how best to spend it and serve myself most effectively. I have bought all the relevant books on the various psychometric tests that will be applied and am about to draw up a regular study programme for this, but I do still have serious reservations ! ....is this really enough ? ....tbh, I'm concerned that I'll still easily be caught lacking in the areas that I'm not naturally good at - maths and physics. Is there a better / more suitable way of improving my general ability in these areas without committing to a formal qualification ?

as an aside - I see people on her occasionally say "send me a pm" however, I can only see an option to post a "message board" note on a members personal profile, which is public rather than private ! ....am I missing something obvious ? hock:hock:

Like I say there's no real harm in doing that as anything that improves you can only be positive. However the good thing about the railway and driving in particular there's no real set way of getting there.

The people that go driving will all tell you they have a weakness in a certain area if they're truly honest and mine in particular was the traction part of it as I've never really been mechanically minded. The good thing is you pick up that many things song the way it's unreal.....you learn a lot in the classroom but FAR more once you're out there.

So I'd say go for those courses to show that you have tried to improve yourself, but don't worry too much about the knowledge behind them being the difference between getting the job or not or actually being good at the job. My maths and as you can tell English were average at best but I still got in.

I like to think it's because I've got my head screwed on in other areas. I know you said your spare time is minimal and I can see why you are concerned about it but don't be......take your time and look at what other options aside from academic studies that may aid you.

Do you have a heritage railway nearby that you can volunteer for? No you won't float in simply because you work for a heritage company but it shows you think of others....shoW's you can work in a team....gives you a chance to work in a customer service environment as well as a safety critical one?

Just another avenue to think of?

 

[R6Pilot]

Like I say there's no real harm in doing that as anything that improves you can only be positive. However the good thing about the railway and driving in particular there's no real set way of getting there.

The people that go driving will all tell you they have a weakness in a certain area if they're truly honest and mine in particular was the traction part of it as I've never really been mechanically minded. The good thing is you pick up that many things song the way it's unreal.....you learn a lot in the classroom but FAR more once you're out there.

So I'd say go for those courses to show that you have tried to improve yourself, but don't worry too much about the knowledge behind them being the difference between getting the job or not or actually being good at the job. My maths and as you can tell English were average at best but I still got in.

I like to think it's because I've got my head screwed on in other areas. I know you said your spare time is minimal and I can see why you are concerned about it but don't be......take your time and look at what other options aside from academic studies that may aid you.

Do you have a heritage railway nearby that you can volunteer for? No you won't float in simply because you work for a heritage company but it shows you think of others....shoW's you can work in a team....gives you a chance to work in a customer service environment as well as a safety critical one?

Just another avenue to think of?

Thanks again Red. My problem is that I work ridiculous hours, away from home so what little 'spare time' I have is seriously depleted just with the natural 'life laundry' that I need to do every week That's a big part of the reason why I'd like to become a train driver in the first place - to gain a much better work/life balance.

I'm still prepared to do whatever it takes to get to the necessary standard though. I have good previous experience and transferrable skills that prove all the right attributes for the job but I'm also well aware that I've stagnated over the last few years and need to sharpen myself up again, just to get through all the testing I don't feel the need for gaining any particular new qualification or anything - it's just that I want whatever time I spend with development to be provable you know !

Your posts helped me think about it more objectively though - and I've now discovered that the OU do a number of short 'open learn' courses that are free and also certificated, so that now seems like a great option for me. I'll be able to do something worthwhile, just at the level I need, and be able to put it on my cv as recent personal development too

 

[red2005]

Thanks again Red. My problem is that I work ridiculous hours, away from home so what little 'spare time' I have is seriously depleted just with the natural 'life laundry' that I need to do every week That's a big part of the reason why I'd like to become a train driver in the first place - to gain a much better work/life balance.

I'm still prepared to do whatever it takes to get to the necessary standard though. I have good previous experience and transferrable skills that prove all the right attributes for the job but I'm also well aware that I've stagnated over the last few years and need to sharpen myself up again, just to get through all the testing I don't feel the need for gaining any particular new qualification or anything - it's just that I want whatever time I spend with development to be provable you know !

Your posts helped me think about it more objectively though - and I've now discovered that the OU do a number of short 'open learn' courses that are free and also certificated, so that now seems like a great option for me. I'll be able to do something worthwhile, just at the level I need, and be able to put it on my cv as recent personal development too

I can imagine it's hard for you mate.....can't be nice when life just seems to get in the way of you pushing on a bit.

I really don't know what to say as it's easy for someone not in that situation to tell you to do what it takes when they don't have those issues.

What I will say mate is don't let the fact that you've not got this or that qualification stop you from applying! There's many a driver out there who only had basic qualifications. Remember that a big part is your personal qualities not just your academic ones.

They'd much rather employ someone with his/her head screwed on with average qualifications than the brains of Britain who's a complete tool!

Get that application in!!

 

[soundandvision]

guys,
does anyone know of a download for the reaction test online? or maybe a youtube video showing the flashing colours and sounds? I think i remember seeing one here but i cant find it any more. It had a printount of the coloured buttons to practice on.
Any ideas?

 

[GMT]

Perhaps this may be useful to you.

 

[LETHLFH]

Which reaction test are you referring to, I don't think there is one in new style tests

 

[GMT]

Which reaction test are you referring to, I don't think there is one in new style tests

He may be referring to the squares changing colour...