Wow, why the need to have a bash at rail staff?
I'm not going to speculate but it could have been a whole variety of reasons.
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I'm not going to speculate but it could have been a whole variety of reasons.
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I had a brief ride on 321448 today from Liverpool Street to Stratford and I must say I was very impressed. It certainly had a new train feel about it. Admittedly on that short of the journey there wasn't an opportunity for the door banging at speed which others have pointed out as detracting from the new train feel. The reconditioned 3+2 seating is much better than it is currently. You don't sink in to the seat almost on to the floor. The 2+2 seating, which I believe is the same as the 377/6s is better padded than in the 377/6s and is more comfortable. It would have been better with armrests fitted though, or at least space between the seats rather than having the seats right next to each other and then a huge aisle. The air-conditioning was a bit hot for my liking, but I can forgive that at 07:00 on a cold morning, I expect others appreciated the warmth.
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07:32 Southend - Liverpool Street
08:48 Liverpool Street - Braintree
10:00 Braintree - Liverpool Street
Empty to Orient Way
17:20 Liverpool Street - Braintree
18:33 Braintree - Liverpool Street
19:55 Liverpool Street - Southend
Paired with 321433 & 434 all day.
Thanks for that. Sadly, I was in London slap bang in the middle of those times and couldn't wait until the 1720 departure.
I hope I will be able to get to see this soon though. I did spot the re-painted 365 at Hornsey the other day (in the generic DfT colours) so maybe I'll end up on one of those first!
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Judging by the hundreds of frustrated passengers on Shenfield platform yesterday at 1900 and the empty stationary demo set behind them it had just been taken out of service.
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Yup. It was involved in some sort of overhead line issue. It's back out today.
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yeah last night one of the units in the 12 car it was part of failed and returned to the depot early for rectification. I had a walk through 448 and it was COVERED in smushed up sandwiches, coffee all over the floor and burger king pressed into every gap =/
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I'm still waiting for Ginger's review of this unit. Obviously this is Abellio's fault and they should be stripped of GA.
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southern442
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I'm still waiting for Ginger's review of this unit. Obviously this is Abellio's fault and they should be stripped of GA.
Ginger already gave us a brief insight into it on earlier pages.
samuelmorris
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This sort of thing turns me into a real snob. I bet the people that do this are the people that join in when there's a commotion about fare increases and the likes. The behaviour of the public disgusts me.
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I know right, they are the ones who moan oh how dirty the trains are. Well the rail staff don't go through the train spreading litter about etc, its the passengers who do. The demonstrator has some well placed bins right next to the doors making life easy to discard of your coffee cup or newspaper on the way out, but leaving it on the floor to spill or stuffing it between seats is way easier apparently
I do see rubbish put in places that suggest that someone really thought long and hard on how to be as big a **** as possible.
No doubt when you have a group of people, some of the mess is done as a way to show off and impress. Because chucking stuff on the floor and spreading food/drink on the seats and walls is always going to impress me.
No doubt when you have a group of people, some of the mess is done as a way to show off and impress. Because chucking stuff on the floor and spreading food/drink on the seats and walls is always going to impress me.
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321448 currently working 07:37 southminster to liverpool street service
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Got a ride on this today by accident as it formed part of the 0653 SNF to LST which is the train before my normal service and was delayed. I think this service originates at Southminster.
Good first impressions. Bright, more space (due to fewer seats) , a bit warm in the door wells where there's no aircon even on a cold morning, the perch seats were nice.
Whilst a little quieter, my coach had a rattly door which I've never heard on a 321 before. It could also do with a coat hook in the alcove next to each perch seat.
Apart from that, very good and the aircon would be a welcome addition in the summer.
Good first impressions. Bright, more space (due to fewer seats) , a bit warm in the door wells where there's no aircon even on a cold morning, the perch seats were nice.
Whilst a little quieter, my coach had a rattly door which I've never heard on a 321 before. It could also do with a coat hook in the alcove next to each perch seat.
Apart from that, very good and the aircon would be a welcome addition in the summer.
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my dad took a ride on the demonstrator on monday and he said that the doors were not opening and that the air conditioning was broken
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It was fine and dandy today. First time as a passenger rather than staff. I like it a lot. Goes to show what you can do with old stock if the will is there. Wish they could jazz up the cab tho....I know there's not much they could do, but an iPod Dock or somewhere to prop & charge the Kindle would be nice!
Yes it was a joke, before anyone from work gets on their high horse.
Yes it was a joke, before anyone from work gets on their high horse.
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Never? Unless this is a different rattle, I'm frankly amazed, or you don't travel on 321s very often!
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Never? Unless this is a different rattle, I'm frankly amazed, or you don't travel on 321s very often!
Once or twice per weekday......
I guess I should have worded it better. Yes, all of the doors are relatively loose but i'd never heard a rattle to this extent. Definitely a defect rather than a "feature".
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Does anyone know where 321448 finishes its diagram tonight?
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321448 is currently working the 22:56 southminster to liverpool street service it will then work the 00:50 liverpool street to southend victoria service where at southend it will then go into the sidings for the night
samuelmorris
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It was in Shenfield sidings all day (or at least, it was there at 7:15 when I left and still there at 5:15 when I got back), not Southend. Dunno if that is of interest 
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It was in Shenfield sidings all day (or at least, it was there at 7:15 when I left and still there at 5:15 when I got back), not Southend. Dunno if that is of interest
Thanks for that. I was in the Stratford area yesterday so was hoping it would turn up.
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448 obviously terminated at southend and went straight to shenfield then
samuelmorris
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I used to be able to see stuff like that on RTT (disregarding the database crash obviously) but there seems to have been a distinct lack of the 'forms the' links since the update. A small handful of services still show them, but very few.
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