11 Car Pendo at Dollands Moor

[Pumbaa]

Tomorrow as per previous timing.

 

[Peter Sarf]

I saw 390054 at Clapham High Street this morning at 07:50 as it passed a London Bridge bound service. Seems to be running according to the timetable mentioned earlier in this thread.

I think it had 3 pantographs. It certainly had an extra bit of low roof in the middle of the unit that had a pantograph or something in it ( I was looking along the length of the train from the rear as I remember someone asking about this.

I could kick myself but was busy checking all the coaches had the digits 54 at the end of their number. To be honest I did not see the unit number.

I have now heard rumors that it is not 11 cars but I think this is not true as it was like a normal pendolino BUT with extra coaches in the middle.
The 390s are normaly Driving-Coach + Coach + Pantograph-Coach + 3*Coaches + Pantograph-Coach + Coach + Driving-Coach. I instinctivly check they are 3 + 3 + 3 because I used to check they were in the longer 9-coach formation when they were first extended.
But this possibly had 2*Coaches + Pantograph-Coach + 2*Coaches where the normal three plain coaches are. Wierd that it has three pantograph coaches.

It was so cold that my poor runny nose could not sense any results of the other test(s) requested. But I bet the aircon is over the top as usual.

 

[IanPooleTrains]

Well, if people didn't know it, the 6X39 ran today and it ran past my local station and here she is:

6X39 - Virgin Pendolino 390054

A bit foggy, a bit cold but she was well worth the wait!

 

[ukrob]

Three pantographs or three roof mounted transformers as per the schematic from a few months ago?

 

[tbtc]

I'll let you tomorrow just after 1pm any other ridiculous ideas that came up over the last few years that we want disqualified?!

Oh i'll make sure I can verify the window size as well

Can you check the seat pitch and leg-room, so Justin can update Wikepedia?

 

[Simon Poole]

Colas Rail Class 66845 wiith 390054 passing Rugeley Trent Valley a few minutes late

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgYjiKO2Xvc

 

[Pumbaa]

Three pantographs or three roof mounted transformers as per the schematic from a few months ago?

From this, a third transformer;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVyW32Hiwgk

 

[mbonwick]

I'm told it's 3 transformers, with the ability to add a 3rd panto.

 

[Pumbaa]

It is just three transformers, as confirmed by VT driver.

http://neilharrison.fotopic.net/c1922201_1.html
http://tim-fenton.fotopic.net/p68353339.html

 

[CosherB]

Why was it dragged? Why didn't it run under its own power?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Errr... No OHL on part of the route plus 11 car version not yet tested and approved in this country?




Hello Cap'n - are you the same Captain Speaking as on the Concorde forum?

 

[46100ROYALSCOT]

Few pictures here taken of 390054 at Runcorn Station this morning in poor light due to foggy conditions.

http://johnmorear.photoblog.org.uk/p68354510.html

 

[Geezertronic]

Shame that politics appear to have consigned it to gathering dust for a bit...

 

[SouthEastern-465]

Colas Rail Class 66845 wiith 390054 passing Rugeley Trent Valley a few minutes late

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgYjiKO2Xvc

I think it must be me but I'm sure at the begining of the film I can here someone saying "B*ll*cks"?

 

[MCR247]

Looks at the comments

 

[ukrob]

It is just three transformers, as confirmed by VT driver.

http://neilharrison.fotopic.net/c1922201_1.html
http://tim-fenton.fotopic.net/p68353339.html

Thought as much.

Wonder if a certain person (nobody in this thread so far) will be along to eat humble pie

 

[jon0844]

Out of interest, what approval does a train need when it is merely two cars longer?!

 

[YorkshireBear]

The delivery of this new Pendolino demonstrates that the Government is already starting to deliver on the commitment we made last week: to introduce 2,100 new carriages on to the rail network by 2019.

quote from railway new site from rail minister

i like it how they are taking credit for something that has absolutely nothing to do with them in any way shape or form. How can these carriges be included in the commitment its a disgrace....

 

[Mojo]

i like it how they are taking credit for something that has absolutely nothing to do with them in any way shape or form. How can these carriges be included in the commitment its a disgrace....

The same way Labour took the credit for the Jubilee line extension, Midland Metro, London Tramlink, Manchester Metrolink extension, etc, etc.

 

[90019]

i like it how they are taking credit for something that has absolutely nothing to do with them in any way shape or form. How can these carriges be included in the commitment its a disgrace....

Did you expect anything else from politicians?

 

[Simon Poole]

Someone wrote on my comments on youtube has named the 11 car Pendolino the Extendolino? like that nickname, like with the Class 90 loco hauled known as the Pretendolino

And in my video someone does say Oh B*****ks becuase of two reason, 1st reason is that tthe trains between Rugeley Trent Valley and Birmingham New Street were disrupted becuase of signaalling in the Tame Bridge Parkway area and they canceled Trains if you hear in the video you get an there was an annnouncemnt about, 2nd reason was that he was going to film it or take an photo but was too late to get his camera/camcorder, the Oh B*****ks wasn't planned in the video

 

[swt_passenger]

Shame that politics appear to have consigned it to gathering dust for a bit...

...and isn't it typical to read in the Times today that NW Labour MPs are being critical of the government for sticking to the dates that were contracted by the Labour transport minister...

 

[jopsuk]

The same way Labour took the credit for the Jubilee line extension, Midland Metro, London Tramlink, Manchester Metrolink extension, etc, etc.

And the same way BoJo has taken credit for the ELL, new stock for Overground etc.

 

[swt_passenger]

I have now heard rumors that it is not 11 cars but I think this is not true as it was like a normal pendolino BUT with extra coaches in the middle.

Part of the original contract was definitely that the four 'new trains' would be delivered as 9 car, and extended once arrived in UK, partly to test the arrangements to extend all the others - it's all covered in great detail in the original DfT ITT documents.

That may have led to questions elsewhere recently about when the delivery contract must have changed.

 

[CosherB]

Hello Cap'n - are you the same Captain Speaking as on the Concorde forum?

Nope.

 

[swt_passenger]

And the same way BoJo has taken credit for the ELL, new stock for Overground etc.

It is how big organisations work to a great extent. Bojo is speaking as the public figurehead of the TfL board, it will always be the incumbent top man who does the public speaking.

I don't see what else could be done, unless all major project timescales were guaranteed to finish coincident with the mayor's four year term. The way things are going stuff like the Jubilee line resignalling might cover quite a few mayoral terms...

 

[37 418]

Don't suppose anybody noticed that there is no stripes on the doors like on the other 52 390's? Will this be it's livery that it operates in, or will it gain stripes at Edge Hill? Because its not that noticeable so it wouldn't be DDA (or whatever it is) compliant would it?

It IS DDA Compliant, the DDA only requires the doors are in a contrasting colour to the surrounding area, hence other operator's colour schemes.

 

[ukrob]

The stripes are vinyls - there is no vinyl on it such as coach letters etc yet.

The doors are not in a contrasting colour, they are a different shade of grey.

 

[Crossforth]

The stripes are vinyls - there is no vinyl on it such as coach letters etc yet.

The doors are not in a contrasting colour, they are a different shade of grey.

But you can tell that that is the door though because it is a significant enough difference in the shade of grey making it compliant although if Virgin win the next WCML franchise, then it will gain the stripes I assume

 

[jopsuk]

aye- look at EC, WSMR and NXEA.