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What I'm looking for here is some kind of simple analysis of any post HS2 WCML situation. I'm not expecting to find detailed forecasts of potential cost benefits, ten, twenty, thirty years out from now because that would amount to mere guesswork. For example, a cursory examination of the...

As an aside, a major benefit claimed by advocates of HS2 (that would include me) is the freed up WCML pathways HS2 delivers, enabling more freight and commuter stopping services to utilise the classic rail network. Can any readers here point me in the direction of on-line evidence based...

OK, for the benefit of brianthegiant, si404, tbtc, Chris125 and others who have considered this vital aspect of HS2's future operation, I actually sent a FOI request to HS2 Ltd, asking for an answer to that precise question. Here I have extracted the relevant sections from their official...

See the following URL links to provide some background; http://blog.railnews.co.uk/?p=125 http://blog.railnews.co.uk/?p=138 & http://stophs2.org/news/7920-ruling-hs2-legal-challenges-expected-court-friday-15th-march#comment-8863 --- old post above --- --- new post below --- Many thanks for...

Apologies if this question has been asked before elsewhere Is there any reader here who has knowledge of, or can point me to an on-line resource (if it exists) explaining, details of the original full WCML upgrade plan and what elements of that plan were removed/deferred/cancelled when the...

No I don't know about those fault lines Are you saying these fault lines preclude any attempt to tunnel under Manchester - I don't remember any mention of big problems caused by geological faults back in the 70s when an underground was planned - if you are saying this that means any attempt to...

Which is why you tunnel under them? You have more detailed knowledge of the rail alignments in these areas - I'm simply making the point that a direct route based on the original brief, ie a line to Manchester and spur to the WCML to facilitate other onward connections, takes the pathway I've...

There is no clear route into the city centre from the south - even if you come in from the east along the ship canal there are still big problems - of course any city centre approach is going to make use of deep bore tunnelling - that's a given

I'm sorry how have you worked that one out @steamdrivenand? You can quite easily navigate a route effectively north east of the Stoke conurbation, run beneath Brown Edge and Mow Cop (the only really up and down topography involved) and still arrive just south west of Congleton, providing more...

Understandably today, speculation on the precise route of phase 2 is rampant with the announcement of the preferred route confirmed for tomorrow. I must admit to a degree of confusion right now The Telegraph article includes a map purporting to show the approximate route for phase 2 added to...

Many thanks indeed @dave_wm for posting this information

Many thanks Adam Unfortunately there is a huge gap in availability at the site - there are timetables from the 60's and then 2007 but I'm looking for a WCML timetable from about 1994. I'm trying to discover the running time of services operating between Manchester Piccadilly and London...

Apologies if this question has been asked previously - I've only ever frequented the Infrastructure section of UK Railway Forums Do any contributors know of an on-line resource granting access to historical timetables. I ask this question for a specific purpose - I am trying to make a...

oooo.....errrr; do I detect an incursion from the anti-HS2 community in our midst?

You hit upon an issue of profound impact - something that will begin to resonate ever louder over the coming years as the UK public becomes more sceptical about the notion of European integration. I hold what might be described as "non-mainstream" views on this complex topic, which I won't go...

visit the HS2 North West thread, where you can see specific reference (and supporting evidence) to the role of HS2 in connecting UK provincial cities to near mainland European destinations - short answer to your rhetorical question, at this juncture, is YES - let's put it like this - direct...

For the umpteenth time - the available space depends on how you configure the throat approaches for any new station - are you assuming a through running or terminus station (the associated infrastructure sits below the station platforms) - you could actually have a bit of both with through...

For the purposes of information I attach a birds eye view shot, using Google Earth, of the Manchester Mayfield site. I drew a line across the site, measuring precisely 400m Of course it's a matter of conjecture regarding the potential uses of this site but the notion that it is too short to...

This BBC webpage and Wiki article provide some insight into this story - it touches a raw nerve with me - I could go on and on......and on about the machinations/skulduggery involved and how the peripheral Regions were, yet again, sold down the river by London-centric political élites! We...

I wasn't expecting a plethora of daily services from Manchester to Paris - even one train a day (possibly increasing to two over time) in each direction would be sufficient to cater for demand? The point I'm making here is that I refute the argument often advanced in circles hostile to HS2...