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On the underground - no discount On national rail services - 33% discount

If it's not given in the restriction it'd be valid...

if it's not public anywhere then it can't apply, can't have a contract with terms you don't know after all!

it's all good, I haven't been arrested :)

Caution = admission of guilt, therefore remains on the record Arrest = police have you on suspicion of something, haven't admitted guilt, haven't been tried in a court. Only actual cautions and convictions will appear on the CRB databases, arrests shouldn't (if they're relevent they'll be...

arrests aren't on the CRB databases (only on the local police ones), so realistically they can't actually find out.

The americans don't have access to our database, only the international one for serious offences. Even if they did check you out simple arrests wouldn't show up, neither would non-serious convictions.

They would have to be given suitable advice, otherwise it would be grounds for a mistrial! --- old post above --- --- new post below --- In which case they'd have to sell the ticket, as advised by the NRCoC or call the BTP/an RPI.

If they suspected fare evasion then they could issue an MG11. I don't think it would be valid to tell the person that they can either buy a single or get an MG11, as the NRCoC states that the person would be entitled to a return.

That would be the case if the station that they boarded at was manned, but in this case it wasn't and so an excess should be issued by the guard.

This is true on the underground, HOWEVER, the reduced rate does apply to singles made on national rail.

I'm not sure about the bags, but ticket wise that should be fine :)

This! I was getting a train from Bristol to Paddington, and I'd finished an hour early. When the train before the one I was reserved on arrived, I found the guard and asked nicely if I could get on that train (explaining that I'd be happy to wait if I needed to). The guard was perfectly willing...

Doh, thanks :oops:

??? = ATOS Origin :)

FGW let you in with an AP ticket, very nice it is too :)

Oh yeah, didn't see that :oops: never needed to use a ranger/rover yet

Surely if they hold a ticket from the previous stop on the ECML to the first station in the validity of the ranger (even though the train doesn't stop there) it'd be valid under the NRCoC (emphasis added by me)

One thing that could be done is, rather than PFing people who get on trains with platform tickets, that the TOC could prosecute for fare evasion, in that case, it's clear that they were deliberately evading the fare and so it would mean the TOCs could get more money.

only difference being, he does have a valid argument (no opportunity to buy said ticket at the station he boarded at as they don't offer it) AND he had confirmation from the managers that he was right!