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    First Group Sheffield - London via Retford open access proposal

    Dgl, you beat me to it - it’s been a busy morning! Surplus 221 or 222 stock to start with one diagram, which has a more than passing resemblance to the 1963 ER Sheffield to KX Pullman service diagram structure - however with later starts from Sheffield than in 1963!
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    Portsmouth Harbour Station - Run-around loop / Station Pilot

    Looking at the summer Saturday workings for 1964, the usual method of working the passenger ECS stock to/from Portsmouth Harbour was to top and tail it from Fratton, with the train engine at one end and a 4MT 2-6-0 on the other. Once the train had departed, the ECS loco went back LE, usually to...
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    Operators' per-km finances

    I quote from the bullet points in page 8 of that report. The bullet points are directly comparable to the headings - third bullet : “Fuel and electricity costs, this includes electricity costs that train operators pay to Network Rail”. The ORR has tried to identify the EC4T from the TOC and NR...
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    Operators' per-km finances

    The diesel fuel line in the accounts also should have traction electricity (EC4T) included - it has nothing to do with road fuel at all. It is all explained in the Quality and methodology report on the ORR website. But there is the health warning (Note 1) and if they can’t split it out cleanly...
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    Operators' per-km finances

    It is far more likely that traction fuel and EC4T are being included in the same category.
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    HST cab protection

    Whilst drivers may very well have informed views on the subject, don’t forget those of us who have had M&EE experience of railway cab structures, their construction, and what they do or don’t do when hit (at various angles) by various items, including other trains - we may well have something to...
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    HST cab protection

    The pictures of the 170 show how the cab strength has got better over the years, compared with the 1970’s/1980’s designs. If someone still has the pictures of the 158 that got its cab taken apart years ago, it makes for a stark contrast. The potential replacements for the Scotrail HST fleet are...
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    How do I find gauge clearances for routes and class?

    The DfT wouldn’t pay for any surveys or actual works west of Plymouth although the locations that need attention are known because I had that survey done, as a favour from NR. Turbos are actually very easy to clear, the stepboards and yaw dampers being the two items that cause the most trouble...
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    Nationalisation and The British Government

    That’s because VTEC didn’t have to pay for all the infrastructure costs that the BR “profits” paid for. Network Grant took care of those costs for VTEC. VTEC failed because they got their revenue line badly wrong, unlike a couple of other bidders who were spot on with their predictions.
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    HST cab protection

    I am not talking about replacing them straight away but there should be an agreed (with the unions) replacement plan over a number of years. Say, by 2030.
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    GWR Class 769 information. (Units no longer with GWR - Off Lease March 23)

    The original plan for the 759 units was that they would release all 16 of the 165/1 3 cars to the west. Post Crossrail, all London area Turbos operated single diagrams, so no 1 x 769 for 2 x Turbo release opportunities existed.
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    HST cab protection

    We used to use 245-T on BR and as a very close relative of Agent Orange, it did the job very well! Very dodgy stuff though and it has been banned for years. Getting back to the recent incident, a tree hanging horizontally across the line at windscreen height is going to do a lot of damage to...
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    HST cab protection

    I would agree with you on the 170 but not on a 158. Hit a substantial tree with one of those and it won’t be a good outcome. Not one of the 15x series have the kind of driver protection built into the structure that later designs have got. That is where ASLEF need to focus on, after they have...
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    Class 175 future speculation

    Not really a contradiction because a non DfT organisation could well come in and get them whilst the DfT plays lease price chicken with the ROSCO. Same with the 379 units. EMR is an interesting thought but the crew training costs wouldn’t be cheap and would they really want to move away from...
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    Scotrail HST alternatives?

    We can if someone else (apart from the DfT and their TOCs) is after them and are willing to pay the current asking rates.
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    London 1970s Waiting room standard colour?

    The colour I remember from the 1970’s was what we called “Interior Grey”, which was a lightish grey colour used on the interior walls of offices, corridors as well as inside some stations. It was pretty well standard on the KX area of ER for quick 1970’s repaints.
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    How could Okehampton patronage be increased (including bus links/through fares)?

    That’s wibble. GWR has been behind this reopening for a long time and actually helped force the DfT’s hand!
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    Portsmouth Harbour-Cardiff Central GWR

    The DfT hasn’t yet decided where any ex TFW rolling stock is going to end up. You have the possibility of Northern, GWR and Chiltern receiving this stock and nobody is any the wiser where the DfT are going to place the TfW 150, 158 and 175 stock. The DfT seem to be playing the same game with...
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    Avanti WC down the pan again

    Not necessarily the privatised railway at fault here. Had it one Saturday night in BR days when a freight sub sector wouldn’t go out and rescue a failed HST. Same issue, I believe - drivers hours. Avanti are paying DRS for rescue cover. If DRS are not delivering on their contract, questions...
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    Mystery problem on brdatabase

    On the individual shed page, I see Plaistow is listed as LMS but on the shed summary page I see it still shows it as LNER. Is that what you are seeing?

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