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I can hear the bleating from the EDP, local MP's etc already if their 'new' trains turned out to be ex LT stock! I dare say the 230's have their place but many will probably see them as a retrograde step.

Don't remember a Nrw/Liv service in days of yore, only a Nrw/BNS which was CL 31 plus Mk1's. Or if you were really unlucky a CL 101/105.

As Stagecoach are finding out with East Coast. ....Allegedly.

Abellio will not pull out- especially after losing Northern. If anything they'll be even keener to win it.

Overexpanded and found the sums don't add up? Would possibly explain the Anglia pull out if they either: a. Don't have the money in the bank to cover the anglia commitment and give the shareholders a divi. b. Realised they weren't going to get much of a return on anglia c. Both the...

Oh yes!

Doesn't really matter who runs it, with the current state of the infrastructure and overusage it's not going to get any better for a long time, new trains or not. There's going to be a lot of disappointed MP's, commuters, businessmen, passengers in the next few years.

Just waiting for the AGA to blame thread for: a. Global Warming and depletion of the ozone layer b. The rise of ISIL c. The loss of the Titanic

Very well put! Also due to the population increasing faster than the network can grow and not helped by an exodus from London but people still wanting London wages. Just look at the development going on around the station in Chelmsford.

I remember the Ian Allan one very well, had lots of useful info including the likely number of loco's likely to be on shed during the week and weekends. There was also a Locoshed Book out every year that just gave numbers and shed allocations , useful for taking out for the day instead of...

Has anyone actually signed up to buy any yet?

We don't have much luck with RHTT over here. Last year a level crossing demolished, this year.....

Not much then!

Exactly my point. There's been lots of talk but little about the practicalities. As I said, I can't see stafff accepting pay inbalances aside from possibly a London/ SE weighting. Any old BR out there who could tell us how it used to work?

The only way I could see it working would be to have a standard t and c's and payscale. When a franchise ends and gets taken over by the govt you effectively make everyone redundant and sign onto the new contract. Those that don't want it don't have to sign and can look elsewhere.

My main concern is, bearing in mind NR and every TOC has differing pay scales and terms and conditions, any attempt to bring all rail staff into one company will be a mammoth job. Ultimately there will be winners and losers. I can't see how an employee on one region would accept a lower...

People who think that owning a Hornby Trainset when they were 12 means they know more about running a railway than the people that actually work and run it. :D Especially politicians. And journalists.

What really gets me is when someone uses their reserved seat for their bag and sits in the adjoining seat thus avoiding having to sit next to someone. Grrrr

Agreed. When everything's running ok it's hard to fault the connections. I often work between Stratford and Colchester and I rarely have long to wait for a connection at Col either way. As I said earlier, I couldn't give a monkey's about Norwich in 90. It seems the only people who do...

Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens post Oct 16!