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And when you couple poor ride characteristics with rock hard seats, you are really not onto a winner.

In the period of BR before the Beeching closures took effect, how did ticket validity work? If I bought a return from Nottingham to London, for example, was it valid to both Marylebone and St Pancras or were the tickets specific to the route, as they were pre-nationalisation? The same question...

I think the Keyworth service running via ASDA was at a slightly different period to it being diverted through Edwalton and West Bridgford centre. The diverted route (towards Nottingham) was Village Street, Wellin Lane, Alford Road, Stamford Road, Rufford Way, Buckfast Way, Eltham Road, Abbey...

Also around this time, Barton rerouted the Keyworth service (then the number 6) through West Bridgford rather than straight down Melton Road. It turned right into Village Street, followed the route of the NCT 90 to Stamford Road, turned right and got to Trent Bridge via Central Avenue. This...

Many thanks both.

Was on a GWR class 150/2 and noticed this semi-circular housing under one of the seats. Anyone know what is under it? Just curious....

I think people may be forgetting the much lower co-efficient of friction between a steel wheel and a steel rail when compared to a rubber tyre on asphalt.

I think the first class seats should be a significantly different colour to the standard class ones, as it gives another visual cue that you are in the correct class of accommodation. Like this perhaps :D:

I remember in the late 80s, early 90s around the time of bus deregulation that NCT started some new routes, most of which went well outside the city boundaries and which, on the whole, did not last very long. There were definitely services to Long Eaton and Keyworth, which did not survive...

I would say, at its peak, the Trent Valley was just as iconic.

I well remember Safeway Scan n Go. There were special trollies on which to load the specially produced green plastic crates for loading straight into the car. I thought it worked well. Still have some of the crates in the garage, in use as storage boxes.

That's an average of approximately 42.5 mph. (distance 40 miles 27 chains from RailMiles Mileage Engine. Not exactly high speed.

Are they running all the way to Edwalton or stopping at the end of the wires at Plumtree?

KP Dry Roast Peanuts. Sad I know!:wub:

I never found the bus seated Pacers too bad. Better than a lot of the seating that replaced it.

In one of the books about the Great Central London Extension that I own, a signalman refers to his signals as 'boards'.

Does the gen-set under the driving vehicle drive one bogie of the motored car and its own gen set drive the other bogie, or are the outputs of the 2 gen-sets combined?

Not really. I assume you are referring to the play-off final where Toffolo dived and O'Brien (strangely both now on Forest's books though I would not have bet on Toffolo, out of the two, being the one who is a semi-regular Premier League performer) initiated the contact. I agree that both could...

I don't know the answer to your question, but I suspect you don't either. However, that answer is what should decide what level of catering is sustainable, not some straw man argument about what is provided on a completely different route.

This is the classic 'race to the bottom' argument. Because something is bad somewhere, no one anywhere else is entitled to anything better. A bit depressing really.:'(