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As I said though I never at any point mentioned going into competition with anyone. I dio feel though that there are sufficient gaps to exploit in current markets in West Devon and East Cornwall which First were not interested in 12 months ago but with college contracts and rail replacement...

Who said anything about competition? There would never be enough for 2 operators on either of these routes!

In that case possibly the 3, Plymouth to Dartmouth, always had a nice 'Devon' branding in FDC days but sadly not with Stagecoach now, or possibly old x80 Plymouth to Torbay? Blue/Green for country and sea perhaps?

Exactly whst I was thinking Is there 4 or 12 of these? If 12 would cover all of Plymouth park and rides .lol would also be a commercial registration in conjunction with local authority partner (PCC)

Blue and green of Plymouth I would say!!

All they run from there is a few college contracts .... like the ad for Winkleigh in mid Devon The vacancy there states college contract 175 days per year only and 6 month contract....The Plymouth ad states driving for First UK bus Plymouth operations permanent, full time , 39 hours per...

That is my point though. They have not got a current operation in or around Plymouth

To be honest that was not my point. My point is there are 2 jobs showing at the ride, one for UK Bus Cornwall probably an error with map showing old location of FDC however all jobs listed are also listed in Camborne, Falmouth etc. The other job states UK bus Plymouth and states driving for...

There is something going on I think as First are now advertising full time permanent bus driver jobs based at UK bus Plymouth starting early 2021. I note jobs advertised locally at Winkleigh state college routes where as Plymouth states driving variety of routes permanently! Jobs based at The...

That makes sense. Thanks. Hope stagecoach do stay in Plymouth as we need an alternative operator i feel. Just hope after Covid they feel they can make a go of it, although personally I have my doubts as to their future in the city regrettably

Does anyone know why Stagecoach gave up these tenders though?

Is there any Plymouth uni or Marjons routes? Not sure what college routes there are up for grabs as City College 36 is under contract to Stagecoach, unless they sub lease it out again. School routes DHSB are with Citybus and Coombe Dean just transferred from Stagecoach to Citybus

Oh that can only be back to citybus hen

It would be nice to have First back in Plymouth after 5 year absence but I can't think of any tenders they could have picked up? School services DHSB off Citybus maybe ? I would think that would be in September? PCC tenders with Stagecoach I thought was a long term agreement not just a few...

There are rumours around of First starting some routes in Plymouth early 2021 Anyone heard anything? I would be surprised myself

Same here in Plymouth GA Citybus have cancellations but Stagecoach seem to have extra to cover the few closed services there are.

Stagecoach Devon don't seem to have these issues. Even with the closed services there still don't seem to be huge gaps in public services

Whom takes the hit on that CC or Citybus GA?

God can't be long surely? Mind you whom would take over? I don't think First will be too bothered coming to rescue as seem to be doing ok without it and margins are probably too tight, they are perhaps better placed than Go Ahead to know that!

They Go Cornwall are shocking, FK much better. I just hope CC have some kind of get out clause as this whole TFC thing is fast becoming the joke everyone other than CC and Go Ahead knew it would be! Plymouth city council plesse take note and keep your contracts with Stagecoach!