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Or. OR you could have the government who own the stock and lease it to the train operators. Therefore instead of ROSCOs making £350m in 2011 to line their pockets (come on don't fool yourself that they just leave themselves with pennies in profit after investment in stock), said 350 million...

The guard let the train go when it wasn't clear and somebody died as a result. Anything else about the guard or girl is just details! The whole point of the two bells is surely to state that its ok to proceed because such an incident that actually happened was not likely to occur...but look...

I'm not saying BR did anything special, I am simply advocating the model. Since when were profits used to purchase more trains? I'm not saying that all non-profit ventures are flawless. Profit is not needed to 'focus' minds. You tell somebody to run a service, for a price. The people running...

Thats not of interest - they exist to run trains on rails, not fill the pockets of those who saw it as a nice financial investment. Clearly if services are cut because TOCs are making zero profit (which incidentally is the fundamental basis in economics as why free-markets are efficient...

Perhaps not strictly what you are talking about but I remember when there was engineering on the ECML a while back and EC was only running from Huntingdon north. Got on an FCC fast service to Peterborough. Train ran its little wheels out on the fast lines all the way to Huntingdon...the...

Indeed. Somebody needs to add up TOC/ROSCO profits for 2011 and figure out how many trains could have been bought with it.

If the space is already there and its railway land, why should it be so expensive? You lay your structure underneath to support the platform and then the concrete on top. And expensive relative to the excess profits made by the operators? You say it takes a long time and money to put a fleet...

You get the same thing on the 395s where the panto is above - nice one. With a little bit of thought they could have perhaps made the area a bike or luggage space but I guess common sense flew out the window by the brains that designed it.

Indeed also, in the light of how many times engines fail on these trains, which I understand to be be quite often, probably needs to be overpowered if that is the case.

Ah sorry yes of course, stupid me. :lol: I somehow confused that in the present system it could be public service first, profit second.

If its not easy to add or remove carriages to have the demand to be satisfied then surely the railway hasn't been set up very well. If you routinely have people standing on services then the solution is to add more carriages. If a platform needs to be extended then so be it. Barring the...

Well if the girl never removed her hands from the train and he just let the train go - he was in the wrong! The train ain't 'all clear'. Blame perhaps does not solely rest with the guard but its besides the point and it appears he did not adequately prevent the situation from happening - and...

Not really....people have been drinking for a long time. Perhaps a shard more now, but its always been there. If somebody is acting in a threatening manner then perhaps moving the train slowly out isn't a bad thing. Somebody who is too laggered for their own good....perhaps not? Its...

Brilliant :lol: In all honesty though, DfT needs to stop these mad hatter ideas and just do whats obvious - MORE CARRIAGES ON BUSY ROUTES.

So the guy let the train go when she was leaning on it? Don't see anything wrong with the judgment. Any particular details about the person is besides the point. Surely the only time you let your train go is if there are people on the outside right by the train are trying to bash your...

I sometimes do wonder how the 180s got signed off the production line. Sit in the wrong carriage and you will be bombarded with engine noise (doesn't even sound good at that) for a journey, or if your luck is really bad you may get one of the fold down seats in the vestibule. That happened...

If there was money in the bank, and the ground was right, wouldn't it be possible to dive under Welwyn and emerge a 1.5mile or 2 back onto the mainline. Surely this can't be beyond the realm of possibility with all the tunnels built on HS1 and what is being proposed on HS2.

Hmmm might be :> But i think just after them, as in the sign is facing just after said crossing. Are we closer to solving the riddle? ;) --- old post above --- --- new post below --- Ah ok ;) It gives the number for the crossing? I think it had the same number for a load of them though.

Out of interest, between Lincoln and Barnetby there are some modern signs that have something like X49 written on them, repeatedly down the line side...what is this meant to indicate? Thanks :)

Couple of weeks ago I had a couple of trips on the ECML...right at the front of the front carriage going north when braking hard from speed on the approach to stations....absolutely stank and I mean extremely bad. To the point that I would be holding back the cough trying to preserve my...