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Apart from the 1 mile long Bay line, Cardiff has been overlooked in the entire Metro project. Has the Coryton line passing loop progressed at all do we know? A decent 4tph service would take a lot of cars off the road and the current 2tph, with many curtailed, is not encouraging enough people to...

I strongly suspect that these projects have been delayed due to funding issues as we're already past the original Crwys Rd opening date. The contract is being tendered this year for start of works next year now, no word on Gabalfa.

It looks probable that the GN inners will become a part of London Overground, no decision made yet though.

It's not terrible but I think I'd prefer a more BA tail flowing style. What I really dislike is Great British Railways, how about British Rail?

The fact that the 398s have been sat round in Taff's Well for several years is a serious indicator that there are some major issues. The OHLE has been in place and working for quite a while and, apart from the Bay line, seems to be fine. Unfortunately, TfW's policy of silence does not help the...

Moderator note: Split from https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/south-wales-metro-updates.117763/ Seems that the future track bed to Pierhead Street hasn't had a temporary surface built, assume it's not that difficult to remove to lay the tracks. Does anyone know if the plans for the extension...

This has all become a bit of a saga. Any news on the 398s expected start date?

This level of service is absolutely shocking, more evidence that TfW don't give two hoots about the Coryton line. What a shambles.

There was an original aspiration to extend to Lower Penarth, assume that's no longer planned. It would be a NR project to electrify to Penarth, so if the funding can be found, should be simple enough. Why not do to Barry as well if this was to happen? Transport to the airport is a joke, I...

Good to see that there is an intention to continue the current plans by Plaid, but there's nothing new being stated there.

I've been home to Rhiwbina this weekend to see the folks and was surprised how busy the 756s were, obviously it's Easter but when a single 153 used to be sent up to Coryton, they were often barely 1/3 full. I think that having comfortable, spacious and quiet trains has increased ridership. 4tph...

I wonder where we'd be if MTR had been chosen over Keolis Amey back in 2018. I think they were suggesting a more extensive tram network for Cardiff, which could have meant trams and heavy rail being purchased for the Metro. But we'll never know.

Apart from that, all going swimmingly :D

Maybe if they'd retained the 175s then 197s could have been used on the TAM lines as an interim measure. Benefit of hindsight of course, but most new traction introductions have not gone well in the UK over the last few years.

Do you mean the Stadler teams are using online forums or TfW staff? Stadler should be the ones sorting the issues and would have good knowledge surely?

As frustrating as the delays are, it was never going to be 2023 with Covid knocking out 2020/21 from the schedule. More recent go slows are probably down to funding admittedly, but in a relatively short time quite a lot has been achieved in fairness.

It would be good for RCT council to pick up the development with TfW past Creigau so it could be done at the same time. The map in the document seems to have dropped Penarth as an extension, just going with the City line to Fairwater and along to Creigau.

Seems very doable, it's a very short section of track. The Bay works line works have been ridiculously slow, 3 years to half build a new station and 3/4 rebuild another one, plus a short section of OLE, is pretty astounding. I heard on a Rail Focus video on YouTube that there had been ground...

Whilst it's very tempting to go along with the rumours, I do wonder how it would take over 2 more years more to get the 398s into service. What is the issue that would cause such a delay?

I don't have an issue with the First Minister getting some press out of it, we wouldn't have it at all if it has been left to other parts of the UK government.