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mods note: All of the stuff about batteries is so interwoven into the last few pages of the original thread, it’s going to be virtually impossible to separate it all out. The best option seems to be to pick out the most relevant parts of the discussion and start a new thread. This was all split...

I get the distinct feeling the issues around CO2, oil and gas might be going soon. Our next rulers are not exactly Net Zero enthusiasts... 1752739700 I'm not suggesting zero growth, but you just order lots and lots of 3s. So when a train is leaving Portsmouth in the morning, or, the first 3...

Wonderful. A very light body, with no people on it, and with no chance of it all going to sh*t when the train gets stuck between stations because of some sort of serious disruption. And if you want a proper, intensive service with a unit to just soldier on, you have to hope you've got time to...

And again, you are missing the point. As I've already said, a lot of places are staying diesel for a bloody long time, and therefore this order could technically be one of the last of the 'diesel' orders, albeit in the sure knowledge that in time they will be cascaded out to extremities. ROSCOs...

Your belief in battery power is commendable, albeit misplaced and incorrect.

A DMU / DEMU would be readily-built with very efficient AC motors. The same motors can be fed from a DC supply, through all the electrical gubbins. If you put the said DC-related gubbins in a modular rack, which can be unbolted and chucked in a skip in 20 years time, that's great. The same for...

Random question for those who genuinely know (and go on the trains), last time I did one from Rose Grove to Manchester Victoria via the Todmorden curve, the thing was totally empty. It was a Saturday, about 13:00, and I assumed it would be a popular train with people going to Manchester for...

All this tri-mode stuff gets on my t*ts. You add mountains of gear, and then have a train that's wasting energy to cart it around. And all so we can pretend we're making extremely minor CO2 savings, as if 200 people on a train isn't already vastly better than 150+ cars. Diesel / DC is fine for...

Tarbes, that's it. Accidentally mixed that up with the place in Spain that keeps a lot of stuff dry.

I'm not sure it needs AC provision. Because, if you make it a 'pure diesel' with a DC bolt-on, when such a time comes that AC is available on Chiltern, you just send these away to a new operator and buy straight EMUs. EWR from Bedford to Cambridge is almost certainly going to be non-electrified...

The aircraft has moved from Dresden to somewhere in Spain today for storage. Looks like trouble.

Thought about that about 5 minutes ago. Just continuously relegate the 175s further along to lesser and lesser routes until you finally bin them off. Start at Southern, then do Chiltern, the SWR, and finish off with GWR. GWR barely releases anything useful (if anything), and by then we may get...

Sort of thing where, if it's going to be an auxiliary Cross Country for Leeds to Sheffield via Westgate, it effectively becomes an Intercity service. A follow-on order of a few more 810s and making that an EMR service which does the Sheffield - Nottingham section as well would be quite nice...

I don't mind through services, but I do think Central Trains got their fingers burnt by doing some wild, whacky, very lengthy through services which meant that with delays from as far back as Crewe or Stoke, stuff was being cancelled between say Newark and Lincoln or Boston and Skegness to get...

I mean, I don't think its even beyond the realms of possibility to have modular bits which can be unbolted and something else put underneath. Fair enough, a portion of the GWR ones and the entirety of the SWR ones might benefit from being DC and Diesel (perhaps all 3 car, with some luggage space...

No sensible person will order 2 car trains from here on in.

P Sounds great. More of this please. Granted, a singular fleet order will not work, but you could have the same high-accelerating 100mph unit (a-la 185) but with a Metro or longer-distance interior and one operator effectively being asked on behalf of all three to hold the bigger spares, and...

I think it's clear that in the longer term, a half-hourly MK (but especially Bletchley) to West London service is quite important. You don't want to change at both Watford and MK if you can help it, as by that point, journeys from south of the river end up being easier through London itself and...

I am not minimising the fact that people from outlying towns and villages in what is West Yorkshire might need to get to Huddersfield, but, quite honestly, the key surely is much better overall services that would lend themselves to the whole area being upgraded and connections, more frequently...

Queens Park benefits include the being closer to London, and having existing platforms (except I assume they'd have to be rebuilt to conform to current standards), but on the whole, I can't see much against Willesden Junction. It's got Old Oak, North London, West London, and whatever else. It's...