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  1. Paul Kelly

    Vauxhall to Portsmouth & Southsea via Waterloo

    I wonder if anybody has any idea or insight into a conundrum I am wondering about: in the afternoon peak, when some trains out of Waterloo don't stop at Clapham Junction, for a journey from Vauxhall to somewhere further afield the fastest and easiest itinerary can be to change at Waterloo, e.g...
  2. Paul Kelly

    Charged full difference for change of route excess

    A friend of mine was just charged the full difference (£2.30 instead of £1.15, so not a massive financial loss) for a change of route excess from a NOT VIA LONDON ticket to +ANY PERMITTED at Clapham Junction. I'm pretty sure that's not correct, but is it a common occurrence these days?
  3. Paul Kelly

    Amusing valiidty message on London Overground TVM

    I was travelling on the East London line today and thought I'd take the opportunity to check out some of the enhancements I'd heard LO had recently made to their ticket vending machines, specifically ranger and rover sales. It's really commendable that they've introduced this option before any...
  4. Paul Kelly

    ATOC Open Data Update

    The fares data download on data.atoc.org has been updated today (with a data extract from last Tuesday!). Maybe useful for anybody who likes loading the data into their own database to look for interesting changes. BR Fares has been updated with the new data and is now showing "PRIV" Off-Peak...
  5. Paul Kelly

    Burton-on-Trent to London International - Fares Check curiosity

    Inspired by this little conversation that I found on the loco2 site, I've been wondering about the how the validity of a Burton-on-Trent to London International ticket via Derby and thence on East Midlands Trains (EMT) to St Pancras is verified, and hoped somebody else could either verify my...
  6. Paul Kelly

    London Underground to National Rail paper tickets with Gold Card discount

    Should it be possible to buy a through single ticket from a London Underground ticket office or machine, to a National Rail destination, with an Annual Gold Card discount? I thought it should be, but wasn't able to manage to purchase one at Paddington yesterday evening. I needed to make a...
  7. Paul Kelly

    National Rail Enquiries claims Routeing Guide is "intended as guidance"

    I don't recall the Routeing Guide being explicitly mentioned on NRE before; I think this is new. From http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types.aspx: It seems to me that ATOC/NRE are trying to spead doubt that a route defined in the Routeing Guide might not be valid in reality...
  8. Paul Kelly

    ATOC make full raw fares datafeed available

    This hasn't been mentioned already has it? I have had a look it and it is the full raw feed as provided to booking engines. Only the electronic routeing guide feed is now conspicuous by its absence! Well done ATOC! :D
  9. Paul Kelly

    ATOC list of "appropriate" London Terminals for every possible origin station

    Sorry if this has been mentioned before but I've missed it if it was. It seems ATOC have created a list of which London Terminals are appropriate destinations from every individual station in the country. The data is available for download to users registered on the open data website...
  10. Paul Kelly

    Are you stopping at Culham?

    I've been passing through Didcot Parkway station a few times over the past week or so and I noticed at the Oxford end of platform 3 there is a large poster (in a display case, just like the normal marketing/publicity posters) headed "Operational Notice for First Great Western Drivers" and...
  11. Paul Kelly

    Afternoon Peak restriction on LM Off-Peak Returns - is this legal?

    I just noticed that London Midland have an afternoon peak restriction out of Birmingham on some Off-Peak Returns, e.g. the Hereford to Birmingham SVR takes restriction DL which says Surely this isn't allowed under fares regulation; only SVRs in the London area are allowed to have afternoon...
  12. Paul Kelly

    Off-Peak Day Travelcards now coded as return tickets in fares database

    I noticed this in NFM11. Anytime, Super Off-Peak and Family day travelcards as well as 3-day travelcards, both anytime and off-peak (where they exist) are all still coded as single tickets as they always were. But all off-peak day travelcards seem to now appear as return tickets. Anybody know...
  13. Paul Kelly

    Merseyrail 165% fares increase

    Having got hold of NFM11 I was doing a bit of analysis to see what the biggest increases were and this is the biggest I've seen so far: Stanlow & Thornton to Brunswick (priced by Merseyrail) Was: Anytime Day Return £5.00, Weekly Season £22.50 Now: Anytime Day Return £13.25, Weekly Season...
  14. Paul Kelly

    Paddington to Taunton in Evening Peak

    I'm trying to find the cheapest fare for a friend of mine who needs to make a journey from London Paddington to Taunton on a Friday evening leaving around 5pm, returning on the following Monday afternoon. This is for a few weekends from now (can't remember which one). She has a Zones 1-5...
  15. Paul Kelly

    Two Together Railcard Online Survey

    Following on from my recent purchase of a Two Together Railcard I got an e-mail from ATOC to participate in an online questionnaire. Just thought a quick summary of its contents might be interesting. Most of the questions were about what railcards me and my companion currently had, what sorts...
  16. Paul Kelly

    Detailed list of ToD locations

    Not sure if this has been posted before but I found this document on the web, which is quite interesting as it both uses the fares database "fare setter" codes for TOC names that are not normally public anywhere, e.g. SMR = Stagecoach Midland Rail = East Midlands Trains, RWB = Regional...
  17. Paul Kelly

    Rounding Rules for railcard-discounted fares

    A search shows there have a been a few previous threads about rounding rules on here, none of them really conclusive, so I thought I would start a new one looking at it from a different angle. The RJIS Datafeed spec. for fares data contains (on page 48) a description of a list of rounding...
  18. Paul Kelly

    Flows where the forward and reverse directions are priced by different operators

    There are a few of these in the National Fares Manual. E.g. Hertford Stations to West Ham route Hackney Wick is priced by First Capital Connect, but West Ham to Hertford Stations route Hackney Wick is priced by National Express East Anglia. Burton on Trent to LONDON INTL(CIV) is priced by...
  19. Paul Kelly

    Most popular routeing restrictions

    I thought it might be at least a little bit interesting or fun to post such a list... The occurences number is the number of individual point-to-point fares in NFM07 with each particular routeing restriction. (Extracted by a little program I have written that is still not ready for public...
  20. Paul Kelly

    Abandoned Rail-Sail journey

    I hope this little story is OK in the Fares, Tickets and Routeing forum. Please move if not. Yesterday I had quite an annoying experience and am considering complaining about it, but not really sure who to complain to and/or how much of a leg to stand on I have. I intended travelling from...

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