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I think they are getting bee network styling

Hopefully we start seeing images and videos of the interior now it is in service

Something like this. Needs some work so it is a work in progress but something like this I think if adapted to current livery’s in different styles could work

Looks like a good improvement however what the comfort like any improvement?

Was thinking wonder if they will get half branded as the base is white and Union Jack up the bit that is blue on the ends

Apologies I should have stated it as a potential for capacity increases and maybe off lease some 2 car units and replace with 3 cars that is a part of the issues but not the whole story because of their design it also creates other stresses on engine components. fuel dilution in the engines oil...

Class 170s will be available from northern too they are due to go off lease from northern when new trains enter service unless there is other plans for them

more because someone’s assessed it as too much investment to put in when they are only going to be here hopefully another 5 more years sadly it’s what the budget for it is not northerns fault directly either unfortunately just the way things in this world work in industry they are doing what...

it was only supposed to be on a set number of years I think from what I recall please someone correct if I have remembered it wrong. I think they are now coming out without logos ready for GBR however if another thing I remember correctly on these won’t receive full livery anyway

If chiltern didn’t get the mk5a carriages I could vision this and it looks brilliant aswell you’ve just given me and idea

I hope this is okay to post what I think would have been great for A nationalisation livery would have been to take the livery style they have chose and created it in a way so intercity services ran with the red white blue and other operators had the livery with their regional colours I know it...

@Bletchleyite imagine. First transpennine express if they had 195s

Just a question 195s are nearly 7 years in service so they will soon due a c6 overhaul not sure if has been mentioned in thread before but anyone got any idea on when the will start going through

In agreement with that personally think the livery should have been kept exclusive to intercity and cross country trains and had separate regional livery’s like now. It would have been much better to have complete separate identity’s

Northern Rail class 195

If TPE had class 156s

Better than the original

Nope don’t like it one bit keep trains as they are

004 is bound for lumo probably not returning with emr now

When’s it due in service