Back in the day...

[SuspectUsual]

Just had to crop up somewhere!

My money is on a reappearance before the week is out

 

[Donny Dave]

Just had to crop up somewhere!

Which 1 was it though? IIRC, there was 10 of them!

 

[Harpo]

Just had to crop up somewhere!

555 crops up everywhere.

 

[D1537]

Sunday 8 June 1986

47612 1M34 Rugby-Wolverhampton (via Nuneaton)
47378 1G60 Wolverhampton-Birmingham NS
47566 1O06 Birmingham NS-Leamington Spa (via Solihull)
47429 1M08 Leamington Spa-Crewe (via Solihull)
47109 1V05 Crewe-Newport
43006+43007 1E85 Newport-B'ham NS
310056 B'ham NS-Rugby

Just had to crop up somewhere!

Random fact: 47555 was my 117th highest mileage 47

 

[xotGD]

Random fact: 47555 was my 117th highest mileage 47

I only had it once. Details somewhere upthread...

 

[D1511]

Tuesday 8th June 1982

1xxx 12.17 Edinburgh - Dundee 27032 xb ED Haymarket - Kirkcaldy
1xxx 12.21 Dundee - Edinburgh 40058 xi GD Kirkcaldy - Edinburgh
1xxx 14.17 Edinburgh - Dundee 27022 vb ED Edinburgh - Inverkeithing
1C93 11.50 Aberdeen - Nottingham 47433 xe BS Inverkeithing - Edinburgh
1C93 11.50 Aberdeen - Nottingham 47482 xe LA Edinburgh - Carstairs
1G43 16.05 Carstairs - Edinburgh 47482 xe LA Carstairs - Edinburgh
2C20 17.33 Edinburgh - Cardenden 45050 xb CW Edinburgh - Rosyth Halt.
(DMU - Inverkeithing)
1E26 16.30 Aberdeen - York 47409 xd GD Inverkeithing - Edinburgh

Here's 45050 at Rosyth Halt!

 

[D1537]

Here's 45050 at Rosyth Halt!

Ridiculous at first glance, but I once saw one on an Edinburgh-Dundee footex (in fact that would have been around the same time), so I suppose the traction knowledge was there!

 

[NorthWestRover]

I had 47 555 three times (well, from the books I still have).

26/06/82 York to Man Vic
03/06/83 Lancaster to Preston
16/08/83 Inverness to Glasgow Queen Street

 

[GRALISTAIR]

Just had a quick squizz at the old moves and gen book from May 1984, and Carstairs portions featured the following locos that month....

26002/007 (failure of 47/7

Now they would have been a nice score. I had them on railtours but not in general service.

 

[xotGD]

Here's 45050 at Rosyth Halt!

The folk baling off don't look like members of the Peak Army to me!

 

[Ant1966]

Wednesday 5th June 1985

Carlisle Depart 05:16 Haulage 86103

passing
Kingmoor 05:25
08911/447
25243/300/316/323
27055/103
31257
47322/588

passing
Carstairs 06:10
20044/122
27040
47306/593

passing
Polmadie 06:40
08402/952
37152/272

Glasgow Central arr 06:54
81012
86432
87005/006

walk to

Glasgow Queen St arr 07:05
47206/467
depart 07:13 Haulage Cl 303 EMU

Springburn arr 07:22

walk to

Eastfield
(noted as 'full visit' not sure if asked or bunked)
08343/348/853/938/852
20191/148/037/076/097
26043
27038/055/045/204/025/206/043/022/207
37051/090/108/085/027/291/190/037/184/191/175/297/026
43066/072
47117/207/591/194/206/595/018
97251/252

walk to St Rollox works
nil (assume couldnt get in, or was it closed by then?)

bus to Glasgow Queen St arr 09:20
47701
dep 09:39 Haulage 303040

Partick arr 09:35
EMUs only
dep 10:11 Haulage 303032

Motherwell arr 10:50
(noted as 'full visit' not sure if asked or bunked)
08446/733/321/437/312/561/730/424/712/730/326/319
20126
27056/007
37296/265/266/180/111/146/117/279/056
47461/380/438
85031
86036
87034
dep 11:53 Haulage 303073

Glasgow Central arr 12:24
Walk to Glasgow Queen St arr 12:45
dep 13:08 Haulage Cl 101 DMU

passing
Eastfield
20148
26025
28208
37045/063
47442/109

Falkirk Grahamston arr 13:46
walk to
Grangemouth arr 14:20
08620/196/347
20035/137/067
26025
27208
37272

walk to Falkirk High
dep 15:51 Haulage 47713

Haymarket arr 16:13
(noted as 'partial visit', suprising as HA normally very welcoming)
08571/421/763
26036/005/019
27040/042/054/046/033
47713/704/306/009/702/705/716/459/703/712
dep: 17:10 Haluage DMU

Edinburgh Waverley arr 17:15
08586/755
20219
26007/019
27012/023/020/017/026/046/103
37063
43113/107/091/084/110/117/111/105/066/072/059/153/062/095/050/045/104/070/074/108
47708/329/619/714/528/109/415/622/462/586/009/604/011/593/486/194/518
dep 23:58 Haulage 47518 + Nightrider stock

 

[D1537]

depart 07:13 Haulage Cl 303 EMU

Springburn arr 07:22
walk to
Eastfield

Definitely the best time of day to be walking round the streets of Springburn, most of the neds haven't woken up by then.

 

[The exile]

Me too chap. Just think if we had had realtime trains with us in the 1970s. We could have halved the wasted milage.

But more than half the challenge would have gone - and with it the triumph when things actually came good!

 

[The exile]

I reckon they thought that on the short hop from Carstairs to Edinburgh, there wasn't enought time for the train to cool down or heat up after the Edinburgh portion had been detached.

Or, when they put a 47/3 on the 07/xx from Edinburgh in January, that the passengers would have time to thaw out between Carstairs and wherever they were getting off so would forget the cold start!

 

[Ant1966]

Thursday 6th June 1985

Edinburgh Waverley dep 23:28 (5/6/85)
dep 23:58 Haulage 47518 + Nightrider stock

passing Berwick on Tweed c 01:00
03094

Newcastle Central arr 02:10
03371/079
31466/461/281/125/421/451
37180/156
45059
47523/212/429/544/013/363/522/418/600/414/319/345
walk to Gateshead depot 04:40 - 05:15
noted as 'partial visit'
03112/066
08164/802/544
31126/106
37071/097/193/067/082
45121/112
47403/220/518/429/520/544/522
56132/129

walk to Newcastle Central arr 05:30
08442
47419/535

dep 05:35 Haulage 43052/196

Middlesborough arr 06:46 (an HST from Ncl to Midd sounds unlikely, but thats what Ive recorded!)
dep 07:06 Haulage Cl 101 DMU

Thornaby arr 07:12
(noted as 'partial visit' - think we were thrown out?)
08200/504/506/774/334/867/159
31283/276/277/218/306
37267/020/079/221/072/061/069/065/008/100/029/250/136
43196/052
47247/341
56085/019
dep 08:43 Haulage DMU

Darlington arr 09:05
08268/817
47522
43054/059/153
56131
dep 09:11 Haulage 43059/153

York arr 09:42
03073/089
08540/707/691/771/064/224/657
20009/193
31458/437/418/119/449
37059
45144/117
43038/112/117/110
47552/190/215
56073
dep 10:56
Haulage Cl 108 DMU

Leeds arr 11:26
31464
43071/073/123/197
45115
47337
56070

dep 12:06 Haulage Cl 141 DMU

Knottingley arr 12:36 (not sure if we visited the depot or just saw this lot in passing in 2 1/2 hours?)
08056/243/309
31305/164
37031
56118/121/002/081/116/098/020/003/074/108/122/021/010/092
dep 15:04 haulage Cl 141 DMU

passing Holbeck 15:35
08226/503/516/517
31287/451/412/130
45077
47292/222/281

Leeds arr 15:40
08766
31434/450/449/414
43073/071/046/099/062/095/013/135/103/090
45112
47016/450/375/319/483/606
dep 18:53 haulage Cl 111 DMU

Wakefield Kirkgate arr 19:17
47098
dep 19:18 Haulage Cl 101 DMU

passing Healey Mills 19:20
08385
31319

Mirfield arr 19:25
25279/325
45115/118
47191/451
dep 21:06 Haulage Cl 101 DMU


Huddersfield arr 21:19
08295
dep 21:38

passing Healey Mills 21:55
56085/123/026/104

Wakefield Westgate arr 22:07
47465
dep 22:46 Haluage Cl 111 DMU

Doncaster arr 23:14
08420/607
31272/326/156/299
37031/202/245/065
47013/528/419/373/408/097/410/305/109/559/600/546/203/245/611/275/340/429
56127/028/010/002/009

dep 05:00

 

[xotGD]

an HST from Ncl to Midd sounds unlikely, but thats what Ive recorded

The Cleveland Executive. Carried on to King's Cross.

So many locos. And you probably saw more 08s on this trip than remain in existence today.

 

[D1537]

Or, when they put a 47/3 on the 07/xx from Edinburgh in January, that the passengers would have time to thaw out between Carstairs and wherever they were getting off so would forget the cold start!

I remember a shunter at Edinburgh starting to connect up the steam pipes from 47215 to the portion for the overnight FO Paignton train once, before the driver helpfully pointed out the large "NB" painted above the locomotive number.

 

[D1537]

The Cleveland Executive. Carried on to King's Cross.

Stopped at Sunderland, Hartlepool (I think), Stockton and Eaglescliffe as well.

 

[Forty29]

Found a few notes which I found and have been updated by an ex Reading driver so know are accurate, based on observations at Ruscombe:
Tuesday 10/6/1975
47360(TE) late running 1V58 1624 BNS working.
47359(ED) 4E85 Freightliner from Southampton.
50024 6B19 1918 Acton to St Erth( milks of course)
47315(TO) 4E78 a Freightliner working.
More observations to come as appropriate dates arise.

 

[Forty29]

4E78 was 1945 Southampton Maritime to Ripple Lane.

 

[Ant1966]

Friday 7th June 1985

Doncaster dep 05:00
walk to

DR depot (noted as partial visit)
08331/499/562/875/734/776
31196/144
37153/052/048
47222/336
56120/023/027/009
walk to

Doncaster
56095
47110

dep 06:30 Haulage Cl 114 DMU

Sheffield arr 07:08
08543/857
43161
47135

dep 07:20 bus & walk to

Tinsley arr 08:30
(noted as partial visit)
08304/249/783/507/880
20052/130/092/118/031/101
31421
37249/105/226
45003/026
47213
56088/119/101/012/102/111
dep 09:30 bus to

Beighton arr 11:00 (from hazy memory, a field overlooking the place where the MR Old Road crosses the Sheff>Worksop line?)
08492/678/871
20051/069
37029/040/080
47374/379/316
56119/025
dep 14:45 bus to

Woodhouse
47374
dep 15:19

Worksop arr 15:40
08485/824/729/285/272
20128/066/030/086/069/051
31462
47374/379/362
56119/128/102/112/135/099/100/106/097/096/011
dep 17:09 Haulage 31462

Sheffield arr 17:35
31447
47550/556
dep 17:40 Haulage 31447

Rotherham (Masborough?) arr 17:49
31243/466/455/440
33046
37093/105
43176/171/191/035/177/032
45056/150/110
47501/330
dep 19:43 Haulage Cl 114 DMU

Sheffield arr 19:53
31414
43102/134
47553
dep 20:45 Haulage 47553

Chesterfield arr 21:01
33046
37228/216
43080/087/152/115
47338/381/257/336/279/227/327
56093
dep 23:25 Haulage 33046 (no idea what this was doing here; not very exciting to us but a lot of the locals wee impressed!)

 

[alan71]

33046 would be on this at that time of day

1985 6-8 33046 Nottingham 2100 Brad - Weym

Very rare working this. It was booked loco off the F.O Ports - Leeds 1E22 which was booked a 33 to Birm New St and type 4 forward. One may have thought that due to a failure the 33 ran round at New St, but no - 33052 worked this into New St and 33046 worked forward! Must have been a fix........

www.flickr.com

 

[Ant1966]

Thats it Alan, thanks, great find. Seems like it was pretty rare up there then! Shame it was run of the mill for us.

 

[NeakPed]

Me too chap. Just think if we had had realtime trains with us in the 1970s. We could have halved the wasted milage.

And how much better use of the lunchtime pub opening hours could have been made

 

[D1537]

33046 going to Leeds and back was one of the most ridiculous pieces of diagramming of the 1980s.

I would add 73108+73134 doing Portsmouth-Birmingham on 1M87 in 1982 and then going all the way back on 1O92 as well. I was in North Wales doing 40s that day and missed all the fun.

73s at Leamington

 

[D6130]

33046 going to Leeds and back was one of the most ridiculous pieces of diagramming of the 1980s.

Must have been a Saltley driver available!

 

[Harpo]

33046 going to Leeds and back was one of the most ridiculous pieces of diagramming of the 1980s.

That’s not diagramming. That’s allocating. Apologies for the pedantry.

 

[Harvester]

Must have been a Saltley driver available!

Was a Saltley driver involved in D1013’s run to Leeds, on a Swansea-Leeds cross country train in January 1077? From memory the Gloucester driver carried on from Birmingham, but he required a conductor in the cab.

 

[NeakPed]

Was a Saltley driver involved in D1013’s run to Leeds, on a Swansea-Leeds cross country train in January 1077? From memory the Gloucester driver carried on from Birmingham, but he required a conductor in the cab.

If a Gloucester driver was on for traction knowledge, it would be the booked driver for route knowledge, not necessarily Saltley.

 

[D1537]

On this day, well does it include today? In this case I think it's allowed - some photos that Mr xot GD and others will like as well from the NYMR diesel gala.

On arriving at Grosmont I decided to have a quick trip to Whitby to hit the Co-op, plus the loco (37688) was a winner as well once I'd looked up its previous identity (37205). This was quite an entertaining run, with a driver who only understood two power handle positions, "off" and "bloody hell". A lady at Sleights on the return journey looked very concerned. I added another 35.8 miles to 47077 (which was over 3,000 already) and I sort of assumed that the violently orange 20166 was the sort of Toton 20 that I'd almost certainly had somewhere between Derby and Nottingham in the early 80s, but it was actually a winner as well.