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They did make a complete hash of the way they advertised it. If you could book to travel down on the 87 and then straight back on the 50 (or vice versa) it would have been a sensible day out. The way they sold it was pretty nuts, even by rail enthusiast standards.
 

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I didn't see many on when the train to Crewe passed bletchley at about 8 am!
There was one half filled first class carriage which I was in, it wasn’t filled at all

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I wonder what will be working the electric leg on March 11th :?:
Probably the 87 again, although I would love to see the 89 or a 90 out
 

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There was one half filled first class carriage which I was in, it wasn’t filled at all

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Probably the 87 again, although I would love to see the 89 or a 90 out
Well I've heard one of those numbers certainly
 

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From the footage I've seen both the Class 50 and Class 87 elements were not well patronised at all.
The 87 leg is hardly a surprise, departing Crewe at 3:30am or whatever silly time it was. That was basically an ECS run that they opened up for people to travel on.

The 50 element seemed to be a move to get people from the south to meet the steam charter at Crewe (I think) but the elements were bookable separately (which feels a bit different to the norm of just advertising the tour to start at Euston but with a change of traction at Crewe) which I guess was an attempt to attract diesel cranks to book that element without having to pay for the steam element.

It will be interesting to see if they continue with this approach, and if they do, whether they will review how it can be booked. Maybe offering the chance to buy "singles" on each tour would be the way to make it work a bit better to allow people to do whichever legs they prefer instead of having to buy 2x returns to get both locos in.
 

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The 87 leg is hardly a surprise, departing Crewe at 3:30am or whatever silly time it was. That was basically an ECS run that they opened up for people to travel on.

The 50 element seemed to be a move to get people from the south to meet the steam charter at Crewe (I think) but the elements were bookable separately (which feels a bit different to the norm of just advertising the tour to start at Euston but with a change of traction at Crewe) which I guess was an attempt to attract diesel cranks to book that element without having to pay for the steam element.

It will be interesting to see if they continue with this approach, and if they do, whether they will review how it can be booked. Maybe offering the chance to buy "singles" on each tour would be the way to make it work a bit better to allow people to do whichever legs they prefer instead of having to buy 2x returns to get both locos in.
It would in my mind be more attractive if as someone suggested above if you could just book either a morning or evening return, ie go down on the AC then straight back on the diesel or v/v, BUT if the 45 comes out to play on one I'm there
 

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The timings for the 11Mar Deltic and Sir Nigel Gresley tours seem to have disappeared from RTT - I’m sure they were on there earlier?
 

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The timings for the 11Mar Deltic and Sir Nigel Gresley tours seem to have disappeared from RTT - I’m sure they were on there earlier?
It is still available to book the Deltic on the Intercity website. If the timings were on RTT, maybe they have been recasted?

Also noticed there is a new tour on the Intercity website - The Avon Gorgeous! Saturday 1st August to celebrate 60 years of 47712 with a run from Crewe to Bristol and onto the Portbury Dock branch
 

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It is still available to book the Deltic on the Intercity website. If the timings were on RTT, maybe they have been recasted?

Also noticed there is a new tour on the Intercity website - The Avon Gorgeous! Saturday 1st August to celebrate 60 years of 47712 with a run from Crewe to Bristol and onto the Portbury Dock branch
Thank sweet Jesus, I thought intercity disappeared

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Also do we know if it is going to be the push-pull set or just the normal rake
 

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Thank sweet Jesus, I thought intercity disappeared
Nope, they had a few offerings available for most of this year so far. The 87 / 50 legs were offered via Intercity.

There was some nonsense about LSL winding up the Intercity activities on another forum but that was never going to be the case. They will just continue operating it how they have previously done and advertise tours on a more ad-hoc basis rather than creating a full scale itinerary for 6-9 months like they do for their more popular (and money spinning) arms of the business. Intercity will always be a bit of a plaything used primarily to keep wheels turning and for crew route retention and traction knowledge
 

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They will just continue operating it how they have previously done and advertise tours on a more ad-hoc basis rather than creating a full scale itinerary for 6-9 months like they do for their more popular (and money spinning) arms of the business.
More easily pleased market versus rarely pleased market.
 

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More easily pleased market versus rarely pleased market.
That is a very fair point. The other forum is living proof - any time a new "enthusiast" tour is announced, you have to syphon through 3 pages of people whinging about it before you find any interesting information about the tour :lol:
 

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It is still available to book the Deltic on the Intercity website. If the timings were on RTT, maybe they have been recasted?

Also noticed there is a new tour on the Intercity website - The Avon Gorgeous! Saturday 1st August to celebrate 60 years of 47712 with a run from Crewe to Bristol and onto the Portbury Dock branch
That new tour is a blinder. Not just the Portbury Dock branch, but also the Bristol TM avoiding line and the Hereford-Worcester line, which is very rarely done by tours.
 

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It is still available to book the Deltic on the Intercity website. If the timings were on RTT, maybe they have been recasted?

Also noticed there is a new tour on the Intercity website - The Avon Gorgeous! Saturday 1st August to celebrate 60 years of 47712 with a run from Crewe to Bristol and onto the Portbury Dock branch
I guess there is some tweaking of times going on - the steam leg is fully booked so can’t believe they’ll cancel that bit.

47 tour looks good as well
 

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Nope, they had a few offerings available for most of this year so far. The 87 / 50 legs were offered via Intercity.

There was some nonsense about LSL winding up the Intercity activities on another forum but that was never going to be the case. They will just continue operating it how they have previously done and advertise tours on a more ad-hoc basis rather than creating a full scale itinerary for 6-9 months like they do for their more popular (and money spinning) arms of the business. Intercity will always be a bit of a plaything used primarily to keep wheels turning and for crew route retention and traction knowledge
Fair
 

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That new tour is a blinder. Not just the Portbury Dock branch, but also the Bristol TM avoiding line and the Hereford-Worcester line, which is very rarely done by tours.
Yep, it is quite interesting as it seems to go against the usual mould of just doing "out and back" type trips which is what Intercity have tended to do in the past. A move towards "rare" track seems to be a reactionary move by LSL to try and maybe boost their work in the enthusiast market. UKR have done similar this year as well so maybe Pathfinder's demise is refocusing minds a little bit
 

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Anyone know what this is off?

Looks GWR but I don't think it's Nunney Castle. Someone said it was the King but I don't think it is.
 

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37521 + 37401 haves worked down to Eastleigh today, with 37401 currently worked back to Crewe

Crewe - Eastleigh https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U77030/2026-02-18/detailed

Eastleigh - Crewe
 

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Anyone know what this is off?

Looks GWR but I don't think it's Nunney Castle. Someone said it was the King but I don't think it is.
Not GWR, the safety valve would be in the middle where the dome is. Can’t help with what it is though, sorry.
 

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37521 + 37401 haves worked down to Eastleigh today, with 37401 currently worked back to Crewe

Crewe - Eastleigh https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U77030/2026-02-18/detailed

Eastleigh - Crewe
Is it not bringing 57302 back, or is that not ready yet?
 

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Please can anyone tell me what will haul the Statesman on Saturday?
Thank you in advance
I'm on that. Going to be interesting at Shrub Hill in the morning. Only 8 minutes between the empty stock arriving and the scheduled departure, so it's going to be very tight for running the locos around through the yard. Unless they're top and tailed all day, but I can't imagine they will be.

Armathwaite Signal Box have said on Facebook it will be 47805 & 47810, but I've no idea if that is true or not. I'll wait until it turns up at the station in the morning to find out for sure.
 
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