SWR outgoing Metro fleet withdrawals (complete)

[SEtrains]

Are we likely to see two scrap moves next week? I assume these would be the last of the year?

There should be a drag out of Wimbledon on Monday however I cannot confirm yet if there will be a drag on Wednesday.

 

[Siemens Staines]

Does anyone know if 5Y51 today was formed of the 455s that have been residents of Bournemouth TMD for a while? Thank you.

Realtime Trains | 5Y51 1432 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs | 12/12/2025

Real-time train running information for 5Y51 1432 departure from Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs on 12/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[dodger]

Does anyone know if 5Y51 today was formed of the 455s that have been residents of Bournemouth TMD for a while? Thank you.

Realtime Trains | 5Y51 1432 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs | 12/12/2025

Real-time train running information for 5Y51 1432 departure from Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs on 12/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Unfortunately it was only 458408 returning after a 2 week holiday. As far as I know the 3 class 455 are still there.

I am still trying to find out the formation of Wednesday’s 5Q47 1138 Wimbledon to Bournemouth depot was. Any help would be appreciated.

Dodger

 

[Siemens Staines]

Unfortunately it was only 458408 returning after a 2 week holiday. As far as I know the 3 class 455 are still there.

I am still trying to find out the formation of Wednesday’s 5Q47 1138 Wimbledon to Bournemouth depot was. Any help would be appreciated.

Dodger

Thank you. It looks like 5B39 may have run in addition to 5Q47 on Wednesday?

 

[Leoliontrains]

Does anyone know if 5868 is going to make her way back down to London to be on the tour?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Does anyone know if 5868 is going to make her way back down to London to be on the tour?

Highly unlikely; 455 868 has been off lease since 9th August.

 

[sad1e]

Does anyone know if 5868 is going to make her way back down to London to be on the tour?

I would assume not as 5868 was in poor mechanical state , even if Porterbrook agreed to let it run for the tour I'm not sure it would be worthwhile going through the effort to fix it.

 

[Invincible]

Wasn't 455 868 to be preserved as a static unit, network rail were said to have it as a training unit, but no progress?

 

[Leoliontrains]

I would assume not as 5868 was in poor mechanical state , even if Porterbrook agreed to let it run for the tour I'm not sure it would be worthwhile going through the effort to fix it.

I had thought they might have done some work to it up at Derby, but it makes sense why they wouldn't have as well, it's just not worthwhile, and plus there are still plenty of candidates for the tour at Wimbledon already.

And who knows, maybe a special livery is being applied to a different unit.

 

[sad1e]

And who knows, maybe a special livery is being applied to a different unit.

I've heard rumours that one of the units at Bournemouth may be getting put into NSE. No idea if it's wibble or not though.

 

[Siemens Staines]

There should be a drag out of Wimbledon on Monday however I cannot confirm yet if there will be a drag on Wednesday.

The path is now on RTT for Mondays drag to Derby

Realtime Trains | 5Q57 1017 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Derby Litchurch Lane | 15/12/2025

Real-time train running information for 5Q57 1017 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Derby Litchurch Lane on 15/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[SEtrains]

The path is now on RTT for Mondays drag to Derby

Realtime Trains | 5Q57 1017 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Derby Litchurch Lane | 15/12/2025

Real-time train running information for 5Q57 1017 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Derby Litchurch Lane on 15/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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That is allocated for 37884+5734+5863

 

[Siemens Staines]

That is allocated for 37884+5734+5863

Thank you. Interesting to note that 5734 was still in passenger service in the wee small hours of this morning so could be 35 hours between in service and leaving SWR.

 

[Peter Sarf]

Thank you. Interesting to note that 5734 was still in passenger service in the wee small hours of this morning so could be 35 hours between in service and leaving SWR.

I doubt they are stripping the 455s for many parts now.
I imagine just parts that are usable on other non class 455 EMUs ?.

 

[sad1e]

I imagine just parts that are usable on other non class 455 EMUs ?.

So most of the 455. Most of the unit should be reusable on other BREL Multiple units of the same Era such as on 150's and 318's. I doubt the traction system has any use but parts like gangways , windows , doors , cab interiors and controls and other parts should be easy cannibalisation material.

Irrc a good chunk of the GWR 150's have gangway and gangway doors cannibalised from 317's so parts are definitely cross compatible between 150 , 455 and 318 bodyshells.

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South Western Railway inner-suburban fleet
AS OF 3/12/2025:

- 455/7
455701, 455710, 455712, 455716, 455717, 455719, 455721, 455727, 455729, 455732, 455734, 455737, in service, outgoing.

455702, 455703, 455704, 455705, 455706, 455707, 455708, 455709, 455711, 455713, 455714, 455715, 455718, 455720, 455722, 455723, 455724, 455725, 455726, 455728, 455730, 455731, 455733, 455735, 455736, 455738, 455739, 455740, 455741, 455742, 455750 done & dusted.

- 455/8
455863, 455869, 455870, 455871, 455873 in service, outgoing.

455847, 455848, 455849, 455850, 455851, 455852, 455853, 455854, 455855, 455856, 455857, 455859, 455860, 455861, 455862, 455864, 455865, 455866, 455867, 455868, 455872, 455874 done & dusted.

- 455/9
455901-920 done & dusted.

- 456
455901-920 done & dusted.

- 458/4
458401-428 in service.

- 458/5
458530, 458533, 458535 in service, outgoing.

458501-528*, 458529, 458531, 458532, 458534, 458536 done & dusted.
*converted to 458/4

- 701/0
701005, 701009, 701012, 701013, 701017, 701018, 701020, 701021, 701025, 701026, 701031, 701033, 701034, 701035, 701036, 701037, 701039, 701041, 701042, 701043, 701044, 701046, 701048, 701050, 701051, 701053, 701056, 701057, 701058, 701060 in service.

(Remainder of fleet awaiting delivery or acceptance into service)

- 707
707001-701030 transferred to SouthEastern.

Could this list be updated to show 458401 as stored as it has not been in service for some time and is being used and a Christmas tree at Wimbledon.

 

[Peter Sarf]

So most of the 455. Most of the unit should be reusable on other BREL Multiple units of the same Era such as on 150's and 318's. I doubt the traction system has any use but parts like gangways , windows , doors , cab interiors and controls and other parts should be easy cannibalisation material.

Irrc a good chunk of the GWR 150's have gangway and gangway doors cannibalised from 317's so parts are definitely cross compatible between 150 , 455 and 318 bodyshells.

Risk is someone has decided they have their fill of parts like that and cannot justify the cost of keeping anymore.

 

[Nimbus020]

So most of the 455. Most of the unit should be reusable on other BREL Multiple units of the same Era such as on 150's and 318's. I doubt the traction system has any use but parts like gangways , windows , doors , cab interiors and controls and other parts should be easy cannibalisation material.

Irrc a good chunk of the GWR 150's have gangway and gangway doors cannibalised from 317's so parts are definitely cross compatible between 150 , 455 and 318 bodyshells.

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Could this list be updated to show 458401 as stored as it has not been in service for some time and is being used and a Christmas tree at Wimbledon.

Thanks - a Christmas tree is pretty useful at this time of year

 

[Juniper Driver]

That is allocated for 37884+5734+5863

Bye-bye, 5863.
R.I.P.

 

[SEtrains]

Bye-bye, 5863.
R.I.P.

That means that 5869 is now the oldest operational 455.

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I can now confirm that there will be a drag out of Wimbledon on Wednesday. Roughly a 10am departure.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

So, currently, the Class 455 fleet is down to 15 units with 3 at Bournemouth and 4 pairs out in service today. Of the 4 remaining I guess 2 of these will be undergoing preparation for Wednesday's scrap move

 

[CallmeDave]

8 out today. 3 all day diagrams, 1 AM&PM peak.
The 0833 Weybridge Waterloo was 458530

 

[nctd2306]

8 out today. 3 all day diagrams, 1 AM&PM peak.
The 0833 Weybridge Waterloo was 458530

Unfortunately, despite those "spare" units it looks like 5870 is out on its own this evening, starting with 2F91, which also means a guaranteed short formed diagram tomorrow as that unit isn't ending at a depot...

 

[tel]

Heading to London tomorrow going to grab some 455s for haulage while they are still around. Can someone please say which 455s are still active and where are the rest please, BM, LM or DY? Thanks for help.
Tel

 

[sad1e]

Heading to London tomorrow going to grab some 455s for haulage while they are still around. Can someone please say which 455s are still active and where are the rest please, BM, LM or DY? Thanks for help.
Tel

5701, 5710, 5712, 5716 ,5717 ,5719 ,5721, 5727 ,5729, 5732 ,5737 5869 ,5870 ,5871 and 5873 Are all still on lease so these are the only possible ones you could see.

 

[tel]

5701, 5710, 5712, 5716 ,5717 ,5719 ,5721, 5727 ,5729, 5732 ,5737 5869 ,5870 ,5871 and 5873 Are all still on lease so these are the only possible ones you could see.

Great, thanks.

 

[nctd2306]

Heading to London tomorrow going to grab some 455s for haulage while they are still around. Can someone please say which 455s are still active and where are the rest please, BM, LM or DY? Thanks for help.
Tel

If it's thrash and motor sound you want, you'd better hope that 5737 will be out, that one's pretty noisy and to my knowledge, none of the other remaining ones can match it's volume

 

[tel]

If it's thrash and motor sound you want, you'd better hope that 5737 will be out, that one's pretty noisy and to my knowledge, none of the other remaining ones can match it's volume

Thanks. I'll check RTT tomorrow when into Liverpool Street.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

5701, 5710, 5712, 5716 ,5717 ,5719 ,5721, 5727 ,5729, 5732 ,5737 5869 ,5870 ,5871 and 5873 Are all still on lease so these are the only possible ones you could see.

I think 5712/5717 and 5727 are still at Bournemouth

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If it's thrash and motor sound you want, you'd better hope that 5737 will be out, that one's pretty noisy and to my knowledge, none of the other remaining ones can match it's volume

According to RTT it stables at Guildford carriage sidings overnight so should be out tomorrow; at least in the morning

 

[CallmeDave]

I think 5712/5717 and 5727 are still at Bournemouth

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According to RTT it stables at Guildford carriage sidings overnight so should be out tomorrow; at least in the morning

5737 0820 Guildford Waterloo.The empty to Wimbledon. Often returns 1702 Waterloo Guildford but no guarantees. It has of late been a favourite to remove a unit for scrap.
I found the best thrash is the 507 car end bogie of the thrash chariot.

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For those out and about, the below may help.
If you use LRR app you can get the unit diagram, or trace forward on real time trains
Out today from Waterloo. As on LRR.

5870 0906 to Hampton Court (solo)
5873 5710 0903 to Guildford
5719 5732 0853 to Guilford

5721 5737 0820 Guiildford Waterloo and to shed.

458530 (0950 to Reading and return, back out for 1537 Waterloo circular)
458533 0833 Weybridge Waterloo and to shed
458535 0845 Waterloo circular and to shed.

 

[tel]

5737 0820 Guildford Waterloo.The empty to Wimbledon. Often returns 1702 Waterloo Guildford but no guarantees. It has of late been a favourite to remove a unit for scrap.
I found the best thrash is the 507 car end bogie of the thrash chariot.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: 16 Dec 2025 ==

For those out and about, the below may help.
If you use LRR app you can get the unit diagram, or trace forward on real time trains
Out today from Waterloo. As on LRR.

5870 0906 to Hampton Court (solo)
5873 5710 0903 to Guildford
5719 5732 0853 to Guilford

5721 5737 0820 Guiildford Waterloo and to shed.

458530 (0950 to Reading and return, back out for 1537 Waterloo circular)
458533 0833 Weybridge Waterloo and to shed
458535 0845 Waterloo circular and to shed.

Thanks very helpful